| --- Log opened Tue Feb 16 00:00:04 2016 |
| 00:09 | <@froztbyte> | McMartin: doesn't look like it |
| 00:09 | <@froztbyte> | plain old http, according to the paste snippet |
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| 01:01 | | * Vornicus fiddles with control code for the vorns ahoy boat |
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| 11:48 | <@abudhabi> | What was that ping-based cloud backup thing? |
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| 11:51 | <@abudhabi> | Nevermind, found it. |
| 11:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | ...ping based? |
| 11:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | Do tell. |
| 11:56 | <@abudhabi> | ToxicFrog: https://github.com/yarrick/pingfs |
| 12:13 | < Emmy-ZzZ> | 0.o |
| 12:14 | < Emmy-ZzZ> | the fuck. |
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| 12:20 | <@TheWatcher> | ... mercury delay lines for the modern world. |
| 12:22 | <@TheWatcher> | Well,sort of |
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| 13:32 | | * abudhabi sniggers: #!/bin/rm |
| 13:36 | | * Emmy steals abudhabi's s and sniggers at niggers. |
| 13:37 | < Emmy> | i'm so punny |
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| 14:19 | <@abudhabi> | :D |
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| 15:01 | < Emmy> | D'oh. finally found out why my query was giving out non-existent results. |
| 15:01 | < Emmy> | one of my joins was the wrong way round |
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| 16:47 | < Emmy> | $cd /usr/emmy/home |
| 16:59 | <@abudhabi> | Wrong prompt! |
| 16:59 | <~Vornicus> | ...wrong folder too |
| 17:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: some UNIXes put home directories in /usr, actually |
| 17:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | (SCO put them in /u) |
| 17:21 | <~Vornicus> | really. weird |
| 17:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | The use of it to mean "non system critical software" came about because later versions of Research Unix didn't have enough space on one disk for the whole thing, and, I assume, someone was feeling exceptionally lazy |
| 17:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | These days it arguably doesn't make a lot of sense anymore, especially since the distinction between "system critical" (/) and "optional" (/usr) will vary from system to system; I don't think any of my machines would function at all usefully if /usr went away. |
| 17:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | Hell, sshd is in /usr/sbin |
| 17:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | And then there's weird stuff like /usr/share that doesn't have a matching directory in / |
| 17:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | Abolish /usr and merge it with /, IMO |
| 17:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ```s ?"'[nb . |
| 17:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | sw2 |
| 17:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | x |:}x |
| 17:32 | <@abudhabi> | Toddler? |
| 17:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | yep |
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| 21:08 | <@abudhabi> | What's the proper way to add a command, as superuser, to autostart? Linux/Debian. |
| 21:13 | <&jerith> | abudhabi: You probably want an init script for it. |
| 21:24 | <@abudhabi> | I'm seeing a suggestion to just add it to rc.local. |
| 21:32 | <&ToxicFrog> | abudhabi: autostart as in start on boot? |
| 21:33 | <@abudhabi> | After boot, I guess. This is the noip2 client that updates my dynamic dns info. |
| 21:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | Quick and dirty way: add it to rc.local/boot.local (exact name and location differs by distro). Note that you have no guarantee that e.g. network interfaces are up when this runs. |
| 21:34 | <@abudhabi> | I don't think it needs to be. |
| 21:34 | <@abudhabi> | *they |
| 21:34 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh, this is a daemon, not a one-time command? |
| 21:35 | <@abudhabi> | Yeah. |
| 21:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Write a unit file (if using systemd) or init script (if using sysvinit) for it, enable it for the runlevels you care about (probably 3 and 5) |
| 21:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Which is to say, run it as a service. |
| 21:36 | <@abudhabi> | I regrettably know nothing about running things as a service. |
| 21:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | So, step one -- are you using systemd or sysvinit? |
| 21:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | If you don't know offhand, check with 'systemctl' -- if it displays a bunch of stuff you're running systemd. |
| 21:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Step two is to check if the noip client comes with a unit file and/or init script. If it did, just install (if necessary) and use that. |
| 21:40 | <@abudhabi> | -bash: systemctl: command not found |
| 21:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | If it didn't you get to write one from scratch! If you're using systemd this is extremely simple and I can easily talk you through it. |
| 21:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | If you're using sysvinit you are probably in for a rough time. |
| 21:40 | <&ToxicFrog> | welp |
| 21:41 | <&jerith> | The usual trick is to find something vaguely similar and crib from it. |
| 21:41 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yeah. |
| 21:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | To give you some starting points, you need an "init script", a shell script that responds to simple commands to start or stop the daemon; it needs to live in /etc/init.d, e.g. /etc/init.d/noip |
| 21:43 | <&ToxicFrog> | running "/etc/init.d/noip start" should start the daemon (if not already running), "stop" should stop it, "restart" should stop and then start it again, and "status" should (at least) report whether it's running or not. |
| 21:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | To actually control when it gets automatically started/stopped, you can symlink it into various /etc/init.d/rc*.d directories; instead of doing this by hand, though, just run "update-rc.d noip defaults" and it'll do the right thing. |
| 21:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | I think. |
| 21:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | I'm not very familiar with debian. |
| 21:45 | <&ToxicFrog> | (this is the point where I start thinking "maybe adding 'nohup <command> &' to rc.local wouldn't be so bad after all) |
| 21:47 | | * Derakon glares at one of the contributors to his project. |
| 21:48 | <&Derakon> | A week or two before the first non-beta release of version 2.0, which has been delayed several times already, is not the time to upgrade from Java 6 to Java 8. |
| 21:48 | <@abudhabi> | What's nohup? |
| 21:48 | <&Derakon> | Runs a command while ignoring SIGHUP. |
| 21:49 | <@abudhabi> | OK. Done. |
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| 22:57 | <@froztbyte> | http://techcrunch.com/2016/02/16/giphy-closes-55-million-series-c-at-a-300-milli on-post-money-valuation/ |
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