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| 01:00 | <@celticminstrel> | Seems like Force Quit doesn't send SIGKILL. |
| 01:04 | <&McMartin> | On OSX? Yeah, I think that's SIGTERM. |
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| 01:10 | <@celticminstrel> | I might've used the wrong identifier, but I meant signal 9. |
| 01:10 | <@celticminstrel> | Anyway, I tried force-quit three times to no effect, then kill from the command-line ended it instantly. |
| 01:11 | <&McMartin> | Yeah signal 9 is SIGKILL. |
| 01:11 | <&McMartin> | SIGTERM is the one you get with no arguments at all |
| 01:11 | <&Derakon> | There should be a SIGSLAUGHTER |
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| 13:29 | | * TheWatcher refactorrefactorrefactor |
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| 14:04 | <@Azash> | gizmore: Do fix your connection |
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| 14:51 | !Deepthought.Nightstar.Net *** iospace invited wraith into the channel |
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| 17:53 | < Vorntastic> | Imagemagick: I am tasked with watermarking & scaling an image. The watermarking is done by composite; the scaling by resize. In all situations, I want the watermark to *all* display on the chosen image: if the image is too small, I wish to resize the watermark so it fits. |
| 17:56 | < Vorntastic> | In many cases, the image is too small to resize (I'm using wxh>) so I have to find the actual size of the image before pasting on the watermark. |
| 17:57 | < Vorntastic> | (Why composite? The watermark is a stamp, in color) |
| 17:58 | <@iospace> | ... |
| 17:59 | <@iospace> | a nearly... 10k line function. I wish I were joking |
| 17:59 | <@iospace> | I have found just that... |
| 17:59 | < Vorntastic> | I guess what I need is, uh, "how do I find the size of the image i'm working on" |
| 18:01 | < Vorntastic> | Shit, man, I have whole production systems with less code. |
| 18:01 | <@iospace> | in the same file: 300+ global variables |
| 18:01 | <@Tamber> | >_< |
| 18:02 | < Vorntastic> | ;_; |
| 18:02 | <@Tamber> | iospace, and 150 of them are named almost identically to the other 150, but do painfully different things? |
| 18:02 | < Vorntastic> | -identify prints the data I need... |
| 18:03 | <@Tamber> | (...or subtlely different things that result in insidious disaster 6 months down the line?) |
| 18:05 | <@iospace> | oh, and a 900+ line function in the same file |
| 18:05 | < Vorntastic> | Iospace: take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. |
| 18:05 | <@iospace> | Oh I wish |
| 18:06 | <@iospace> | The only comfort I have is that the company I work for did /not/ write this monstrosity |
| 19:02 | < Vorntastic> | Gnarg, it appears I may need to pipe identify's results in. |
| 19:07 | < Vorntastic> | ...or maybe there's fz |
| 19:07 | < Vorntastic> | Er, fx |
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| 20:46 | < Vorntastic> | If I could figure out how to toss fx into something else that'd be great |
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| 21:10 | <@Reiv> | Anyone seen jython before? |
| 21:12 | <&McMartin> | "Seen" is pretty broad. |
| 21:12 | <&McMartin> | I have witnessed it |
| 21:12 | <&McMartin> | I have not actually *used* it |
| 21:13 | <&jerith> | I used it once a few years ago. |
| 21:13 | <&jerith> | It was painful, but mostly because I needed to interact with Java stuff and therefore ended up writing Java code with Python syntax. |
| 21:14 | <&McMartin> | That pretty much matches my witnessing |
| 21:16 | <&jerith> | Oh, hey. Jython had some activity in the past year and a half. |
| 21:16 | <&McMartin> | Interesting |
| 21:16 | <&jerith> | Jython 2.7b2 was May 2013, 2.7b3 was August 2014. |
| 21:16 | <&McMartin> | (The only Java interop I've ever seen that didn't end up looking like "Java in ______" is Clojure) |
| 21:17 | <&jerith> | Nothing in between or since. |
| 21:17 | <&McMartin> | (I include Scala in this) |
| 21:17 | <&jerith> | I suppose JRuby doesn't really do much interop. |
| 21:23 | <@Reiv> | jerith: I fear I am in the same situation |
| 21:23 | <@Reiv> | I am stealing a lump of code from one bit of Maximo, and bending it to my will in another |
| 21:23 | <@Reiv> | I am at this point assuming there's no such thing as a CASE statement in the thing, is there |
| 21:24 | <&jerith> | It's Python, so no. |
| 21:25 | <&jerith> | You either use if/elif/elif or you build a dict of values and functions and use it to dispatch. |
| 21:26 | <@Reiv> | I guess I'm writing a whole bunch of nested ifs then |
| 21:26 | <@Reiv> | er, elifs, apparently |
| 21:26 | <@Reiv> | Is elif an actual syntax here |
| 21:26 | <&jerith> | Yes. |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | You don't necessarily need nesting. |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | if foo: |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | do_thing() |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | elif bar: |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | do_other_thing() |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | else: |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | be_sad() |
| 21:27 | <&jerith> | You can have as many elifs as you want. |
| 21:27 | <@Reiv> | elif is a real thing then, excellent |
| 21:28 | <@Reiv> | I can make a case statement with that |
| 21:28 | <@Reiv> | (Yes, it needed first-match termination) |
| 21:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | (switch-case doesn't generally get you that anyways, it gets you a dispatch table) |
| 21:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | (languages with structural pattern matching excepted) |
| 21:29 | <&jerith> | I often find a series of "if condition, do thing and then return" blocks to be preferable. |
| 21:29 | <&jerith> | Especially for handling edge cases before the (bigger) common case. |
| 21:30 | <@Reiv> | hm- |
| 21:30 | <@Reiv> | The code I am wrangling |
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| 21:43 | <@iospace> | Tamber: Vorntastic so it gets worse |
| 21:43 | <@iospace> | somehow |
| 21:44 | <@iospace> | 39k+ bash script |
| 21:47 | <@Tamber> | ;_; |
| 21:49 | <@iospace> | still not as horrible as the c++ file, but still |
| 21:50 | <@Reiv> | oh right this is python |
| 21:50 | <@Reiv> | The incremental indentations suggest that these are a set of /nested/ ifs |
| 21:50 | <@Reiv> | It took half a moment to realise that~ |
| 21:51 | <&jerith> | "suggest"? |
| 21:51 | <&jerith> | "indicate", perhaps. |
| 21:51 | <@Reiv> | jerith: The intendations are single spaces. |
| 21:51 | <@Reiv> | It took a moment to notice they were /there/ |
| 21:52 | <&jerith> | ... |
| 21:52 | <&jerith> | One space? |
| 21:52 | <@Reiv> | Looks like! |
| 21:52 | <&jerith> | Is that consistent? |
| 21:52 | <@Reiv> | It is pain. |
| 21:53 | <@Reiv> | The original code: http://pastebin.starforge.co.uk/669 |
| 21:53 | <@Reiv> | I need to change the ifs to elifs, alter what columns it looks at, and, hm |
| 21:54 | <@Reiv> | Work out what .getMbo does, maybe~ |
| 21:54 | <&jerith> | That looks horrible. |
| 21:54 | <&jerith> | Start by reindenting. |
| 21:54 | <@Reiv> | I'm not sure if the system I'm pasting it into can handle that >_< |
| 21:57 | <&jerith> | Paste it into emacs instead.~ |
| 21:58 | <@iospace> | why emacs~ use Vi(m) |
| 21:58 | <@Reiv> | Or maybe I'll just do this in Notepad. |
| 21:59 | <@Reiv> | Tool of champions. |
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