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| 01:18 | <&McMartin> | "My initial Yosemite install took more than eight hours to complete, all the while stating â3 minutes remainingâ" |
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| 09:41 | <@froztbyte> | McMartin: that's a pretty common experience for OSX upgrades, afaict |
| 09:42 | <@froztbyte> | I've seen it on at least 7 upgrades (of 20) |
| 10:15 | <&McMartin> | It's caused by having a bunch of stuff in /usr/local |
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| 11:05 | <@froztbyte> | http://wingolog.org/archives/2014/10/17/ffs-ssl |
| 11:14 | <@Tamber> | <It's a wonder anything works. Indeed I wonder if anything does.> The answer to that is "No. It's just kept shambling along with duct-tape, tears, and the sacrifices of many livers... so that it will at least /look/ like it works." |
| 11:29 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah |
| 11:30 | <@TheWatcher> | Most people really don't realise just how bad the farcical situation is, and even among those that should there's a lot of people in outright denial |
| 11:32 | <@Tamber> | Well, it's a good job none of this broken crap is being used for anything important; that'd be so horrifying, I think *I'd* need to go into denial. |
| 11:32 | <@Tamber> | ~ |
| 11:39 | <@TheWatcher> | Or, y'know, slip into resigned cynicism |
| 11:57 | <&McMartin> | "That's what 'works' means" |
| 11:57 | | * McMartin plays Atari 2600 games, cannot figure out how Asteroids does what it does |
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| 21:10 | <@Julius> | Is it just me, or are DNS settings a mass of ancient messes that somehow still mostly works? |
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| 21:12 | <@Alek> | yes |
| 21:14 | <&McMartin> | Not just you |
| 21:19 | <@Julius> | I'm wondering how the hell I'm supposed to fit TYPE, SERVICE, PROTOCOL, PORT, WEIGHT, PRIORITY, TTL, NAME and TARGET when my ISP gives me only TYPE, TTL, NAME and TARGET. |
| 21:20 | <@Namegduf> | The missing ones are only applicable to certain types of record. |
| 21:20 | <@Namegduf> | Which presumably they don't let you add? |
| 21:20 | <@Alek> | what fudge said, I guess. |
| 21:20 | <@Julius> | Yeah, this is SRV. |
| 21:20 | <@Julius> | It appears the ISP is using some kind of priorietary format for stuff that doesn't fit, but I can't puzzle it out. |
| 21:26 | <@Julius> | Hmm. When it tells me to put in TXT NAME of "@", what does it actually mean? Because if I put that in, the result is "@.mydomain.com" rather than "@". |
| 21:26 | <@Namegduf> | I think your ISP is sticking the ".mydomain.com" bit on the end. |
| 21:27 | <@Namegduf> | It sounds like this system's UI is really built around A records and not much else. |
| 21:27 | <@Julius> | Yes. I'd like them to stop that. Argh. |
| 21:27 | <@Namegduf> | I think it's just a display thing. |
| 21:27 | <@Namegduf> | DNS record configuration does not generally contain the zone/domain those records are for in each individual entry. |
| 21:28 | <@Namegduf> | Since you can't mix them. |
| 21:28 | <@Namegduf> | So I think the display end of things is just showing you <actual value> + <domain> |
| 21:30 | <@Julius> | Hmm. |
| 21:30 | <@Namegduf> | That would be my first guess. |
| 21:30 | <@froztbyte> | Julius: so, a couple of things |
| 21:30 | <@froztbyte> | Julius: a) most of these ISP admin panels are made of trolololo |
| 21:31 | <@froztbyte> | Julius: b) 9/10 times they're doing DNS wrong anyway, so don't get your hopes up |
| 21:31 | <@froztbyte> | Julius: c) half the time you can get "custom" (you know, TXT or SRV records...) done via the helpdesk and it'll /show/ in the admin panel |
| 21:32 | <@froztbyte> | an '@' record means "domain root" |
| 21:32 | <@froztbyte> | so with julius.cc.tld, the '@' record would be the one returned if you do a lookup on 'julius.cc.tld' (no subdomain) |
| 21:33 | <@froztbyte> | but just switch your DNS to route53, it's mostly sane and has reasonable resilliency |
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| 23:30 | | * Vornicus finds a stackexchange thread where people are challengingg others to find matching values to a variety of terror-inducing regexes |
| 23:30 | <~Vornicus> | Among others there's one where a matching string is equivalent to a hamiltonian path through a graph described in the regex |
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