| --- Log opened Wed Oct 15 00:00:09 2014 |
| --- Day changed Wed Oct 15 2014 |
| 00:00 | < RchrdB> | I bet the "PO" came first, because "Padding Oracle" is integral. |
| 00:00 | < RchrdB> | Then "POLE", then somebody decided to be a little classier than that, so we get POODLE. |
| 00:01 | <@gnolam> | When I was doing the frog project, I felt a bit unsure about our acronym ideas, since they all felt a bit far-fetched. |
| 00:01 | <@gnolam> | Then I ran into BATMAN - "Best Available Technique Minimising All Nuclides" - (while searching for Unat concentrations, IIRC) and lost all shame. |
| 00:02 | <@Reiv> | bahaha |
| 00:02 | <@Azash> | gnolam: It could be worse |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | That is even better than Robotnikinin |
| 00:03 | <@Azash> | For our final, we wrote an XSS analysis tool for a large Finnish security company |
| 00:03 | <&McMartin> | (So named for its opposition/inhibition of the sonic hedgehog gene) |
| 00:03 | <@Azash> | Which we then proceeded to dub JSSAnal |
| 00:03 | <@Azash> | Best part is the client laughed and then approved it |
| 00:03 | <@Azash> | McMartin: CODING AS USUAL I SEE |
| 00:04 | <@gnolam> | McMartin: hee |
| 00:14 | <~Vornicus> | Listening to Queen while programming: bad idea |
| 00:16 | <&McMartin> | gnolam: There is also "Better Approach To Mobile Adhoc Networking" |
| 00:17 | <@TheWatcher> | Vornicus: any way the code grows, doesn't really matter... |
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| 00:22 | | * Alek snerks. |
| 00:22 | <@Alek> | mama, just killed a thread |
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| 00:24 | <@gnolam> | Beelzebub has a devil put aside for C, for C, for C |
| 00:25 | <@TheWatcher> | ahahahah |
| 00:26 | <&McMartin> | Bismallah NO we will not let you go (overflow) |
| 00:26 | <&McMartin> | will not let you go (overflow) |
| 00:27 | <@Azash> | Vornicus: Have a slightly different version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksZ1f-U1KiA |
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| 01:12 | <~Vornicus> | Actually I was listening to their self-titled album. It's been a decade since an album grabbed me by the lapels and demanded my full attention. |
| 01:15 | <@Reiv> | ... of all the albums to grab you by the lapels, it's one that's 30 years old? |
| 01:16 | <@Reiv> | 40 |
| 01:16 | <@Reiv> | I'm old ;_; |
| 01:17 | <~Vornicus> | 45 years old. |
| 01:19 | <@Reiv> | shut uuuup |
| 01:19 | <@Reiv> | So anyway |
| 01:19 | <@Reiv> | What was it about an album that is older than you which grabbed you and demanded you pay attention to it /today/ |
| 01:34 | <~Vornicus> | Well, I decided to listen to it, because (as you know, bob) queen is a great band |
| 01:35 | <~Vornicus> | and I'd never listened to it before |
| 01:57 | <@Reiv> | hunh |
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| 15:01 | | * gnolam arghs at Access. |
| 15:01 | <@gnolam> | Your MOM is too complex! >:E |
| 15:04 | < RchrdB> | My Mum has a vivid imagination |
| 15:04 | < RchrdB> | so yeah, she's definitely a complex person |
| 15:30 | <@iospace> | 10:27:53 <~Lambo> get a bunch of Raid bug spray cans |
| 15:30 | <@iospace> | 10:27:58 <~Lambo> Line them up in an array... |
| 15:30 | <@iospace> | 10:28:28 <~Lambo> "They said I needed a Raid Array" |
| 15:30 | | * Tamber aims the Sad Trombone at iospace. |
| 15:30 | <@iospace> | I didn't come up with it! |
| 15:32 | <@iospace> | 10:31:13 <~Lambo> "I thought they wanted a Redundant Array of Insect Death" |
| 15:32 | <@Tamber> | ha |
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| 16:01 | <&McMartin> | It seems istheinternetonfire.com has updated |
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| 16:29 | | * Derakon eyes an email sent to his work support list. |
| 16:29 | <&Derakon> | "How to use the microscopic micrometer scale to measure scape picture?" |
| 16:30 | <&Derakon> | Clearly not a native English speaker. Figuring out how to best respond is going to be tricky... |
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| 19:40 | <@froztbyte> | https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/522353752997892096 |
| 19:42 | < Julius> | What IS going on? |
| 19:43 | < RchrdB> | Julius: narrow down the question? |
| 19:44 | < Julius> | I recognize Heartbleed. I don't recognize poodles or shellshocks. |
| 19:44 | <@froztbyte> | oh |
| 19:44 | <@froztbyte> | heh |
| 19:44 | < RchrdB> | Ah that |
| 19:44 | <@froztbyte> | bash got a nice big heap-of-shit lit up |
| 19:44 | <@froztbyte> | and SSL(v3) is also terrible |
| 19:44 | <@froztbyte> | http://googleonlinesecurity.blogspot.co.uk/2014/10/this-poodle-bites-exploiting- ssl-30.html for poodle |
| 19:45 | <@froztbyte> | https://shellshocker.net/ for shellshock |
| 19:45 | < RchrdB> | Shell shock = gnu bash can really wants to run arbitrary code from environment variables |
| 19:45 | < RchrdB> | Poodle = you need to turn off ssl3.0 on all your webserver |
| 19:46 | < RchrdB> | It's okay though, all browsers support TLS1.0 at least, except IE6 on win XP |
| 19:46 | < RchrdB> | So you don't really lose anything by doing this |
| 19:46 | <@froztbyte> | RchrdB: bzzt |
| 19:47 | < RchrdB> | Nyah? |
| 19:47 | <@froztbyte> | many phones can be affected |
| 19:47 | <@froztbyte> | especially lots of feature phones |
| 19:47 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, Google reported that they couldn't get away with simply turning off SSL3 |
| 19:47 | < RchrdB> | Idgaf about feature phones |
| 19:47 | < RchrdB> | Google may need to |
| 19:47 | <@froztbyte> | yes, well, /you/ may not |
| 19:47 | <@froztbyte> | but blanket statements that no-one would are pretty wrong |
| 19:47 | < RchrdB> | The vast majority of sites don't need to |
| 19:47 | <@froztbyte> | especially since that's like a metric fuckton of devices |
| 19:48 | <@froztbyte> | RchrdB: eh. yahoo, as an example, is a pretty prominent potential fuckup. |
| 19:48 | <@froztbyte> | it's pretty big in africa and india |
| 19:48 | < RchrdB> | It's a metric duck ton of barely functional devices whose users are already used to the fact that stuff randomly stops working for them |
| 19:49 | <@froztbyte> | that's an entirely different scenario to "haha, fuck you, you never get access to your mail again" |
| 19:49 | <@froztbyte> | (from "haha, lols, your tower is fucked today. wait 6 hours.") |
| 19:50 | <@froztbyte> | fortunately I don't have to care in pretty much any way right now |
| 19:51 | < RchrdB> | If anyone's to blame for that, it's feature phone vendors polluting the world with devices whose software will never be patched or fixed |
| 19:51 | <@froztbyte> | I'm just pointing out that there's a bunch of people who really do need to care and advising potential oversights is probably a bad idea |
| 19:51 | <@froztbyte> | RchrdB: eh, well, that's a deep rabbithole. |
| 19:52 | < RchrdB> | Imperceptibly unique snowflakes for which it's economically unviable to back port patches :p |
| 19:54 | < RchrdB> | froztbyte: thanks for the heads up, I had no idea that feature phones mattered to anyone. |
| 19:55 | <@froztbyte> | yeah, they're /everywhere/ |
| 19:55 | <@froztbyte> | hrmmm, lemme try find this map |
| 19:59 | <@froztbyte> | RchrdB: http://www.mapbox.com/labs/twitter-gnip/brands/#11/-26.1724/28.0522 |
| 20:00 | <@froztbyte> | that's unfortunately a kinda specific dataset, but should serve to at least show some of the point |
| 20:01 | <@froztbyte> | https://www.mapbox.com/labs/twitter-gnip/brands/#6/8.787/5.878 && https://www.mapbox.com/labs/twitter-gnip/brands/#11/5.6129/-0.1370 |
| 20:01 | <@froztbyte> | (it's also an interesting little oversight of socio-economics in certain places) |
| 20:01 | <@Tamber> | That is a lot of crackberries. |
| 20:02 | <@froztbyte> | https://www.mapbox.com/labs/twitter-gnip/brands/#8/48.678/2.112 has a lot more purple than I expected |
| 20:03 | <@froztbyte> | https://www.mapbox.com/labs/twitter-gnip/brands/#4/5.92/103.84 |
| 20:03 | <@froztbyte> | same for south america |
| 20:14 | <&McMartin> | http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/10/ghost-in-the-bourne-again-shell-fallout- of-shellshock-far-from-over/ |
| 20:14 | <&McMartin> | I link this mainly for the finest possible use of Ben Stiller in a tech article |
| 20:14 | <&McMartin> | ("Freak Gasoline Fight Accident") |
| 20:31 | | * TheWatcher eyes git |
| 20:31 | <@TheWatcher> | ... why is git push to github not working, wtf |
| 20:32 | <@TheWatcher> | Ah, finally |
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