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| 06:11 | <&McM[AFK]> | "Itās really hard, as a designer, throwing away a cherished mechanic. Itās like euthanasing a beloved pet that wonāt stop eating children." |
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| 11:47 | <@Azash> | http://i.imgur.com/IEghJ0E.jpg |
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| 14:42 | <@Tarinaky> | How do you buy a laptop? |
| 14:43 | <&ToxicFrog> | In my case? Online. |
| 14:43 | <@Tarinaky> | My current laptop can't run any games and I am seriously bored. |
| 14:43 | <@Tarinaky> | And I have /another/ hotel-stay the week after next |
| 14:44 | <@Tarinaky> | ToxicFrog: How do I get one that'll do what I need? |
| 14:44 | <@Tarinaky> | And not be stupidly expensive? |
| 14:52 | <&ToxicFrog> | Um. That's a really broad question? Generally you figure out what class of laptop you want and what your budget is, then look at available laptops in that class and price range, then pick out the ones that have specs you like and research them further. |
| 14:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | Also, gaming on a laptop is a vale of tears. |
| 14:53 | <@Tarinaky> | I know. |
| 14:53 | < [R]> | Laptops overheat horribly. Game on a desktop. |
| 14:53 | <@ErikMesoy> | Install Tthrottle. |
| 14:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | Gaming-capable laptops (as in, laptops that can play relatively recent games) are going to be significantly more expensive than equivalent desktops, heavy, thermally impolite and have poor battery life, as a rule. |
| 14:53 | <@ErikMesoy> | It has solved my overheating. |
| 14:53 | <@Tarinaky> | I'm not going to fly a desktop in my handluggage |
| 14:54 | <&ToxicFrog> | And when they're obsolete in 1-2 years, you can't upgrade them. |
| 14:54 | <@Tarinaky> | I know |
| 14:54 | <@Tarinaky> | But I can't fly a desktop in my hndluggageThat kills the desktop suggstion in this instance |
| 14:55 | <@Tarinaky> | saying laptops are shit doesn't take away the fact that I can't have a desktop |
| 14:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | So, the next question is if you actually need modern gaming beef or can get away with playing ToME and DOS games |
| 14:55 | <@Tarinaky> | I'd rather have some computer than no computer |
| 14:55 | <@Tarinaky> | I want something that can run CK2/EUIV |
| 14:55 | <@ErikMesoy> | I am running CK2 and EUIV on my laptop. |
| 14:55 | <&ToxicFrog> | Because if the answer is "yes", you can get something that's pretty powerful in every respect except video card, for less money and with better mass and battery life than a "gaming laptop". |
| 14:55 | <@ErikMesoy> | CK2 caps out around speed 4 (of 5) and EUIV around speed 3, the higher toggles do nothing. |
| 14:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | Those are fairly graphically undemanding, aren't they? |
| 14:56 | <@ErikMesoy> | Theoretically, yes. |
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| 14:57 | <&ToxicFrog> | Tarinaky: ok, so you can probably get away without a "gaming laptop". |
| 14:58 | <@Tarinaky> | I need to avoid Intel HD graphics though because apparently they have a high failure rate with the game. |
| 14:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | Intel HD graphics have a high failure rate with everything, but it varies by card. If you see a laptop with one of those that you like otherwise, research that card model. |
| 14:59 | <@Tarinaky> | I'm not sure I have time to research / |
| 14:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | E.g. my laptop has an Intel video card, and 3d performance is dogshit, but I've had no compatibility issues, and it can just about handle KSP with all the settings turned down. |
| 14:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | ...how long do you have? |
| 15:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | Because if you have time to wait for a laptop to be shipped to you, you have time to spend a day investigating what's available. |
| 15:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Well I'm in Wales until the 24th |
| 15:00 | <@Tarinaky> | Then the flight is 1st |
| 15:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | If you don't have time to wait for a laptop to be shipped to you, you're limited to what the local computer store has in stock anyways |
| 15:00 | <@Tarinaky> | *the 1st |
| 15:00 | <&ToxicFrog> | So, uh, check their website, or walk down there and look things over, and that limits your options and you investigate from there. |
| 15:02 | <&ToxicFrog> | (oh, also, what's your current laptop?) |
| 15:03 | <@Tarinaky> | Packard Bell EasyNote that drives me mad with its broken keyboard |
| 15:05 | <&ToxicFrog> | Which of the hundreds of EasyNote models do you refer to? |
| 15:05 | <@Tarinaky> | No idea |
| 15:05 | <@Tarinaky> | THere's no number on it and I never bought it |
| 15:11 | <@Tarinaky> | It has an Intel Core 2 processor, model T5500 clocked at 1.6GHz |
| 15:12 | <@Tarinaky> | Not sure that helps |
| 15:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | Not really. Eh, never mind. |
| 15:15 | <&ToxicFrog> | As far as brands go -- I've got a System 76 at home I've been reasonably happy with, but the build quality is kind of flimsy and battery life isn't great. |
| 15:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | I've been quite happy with Lenovo in the past, and that's what my work laptop is. They tend to be lacking in graphical power but reasonably beefy otherwise and quite durable. |
| 15:16 | <&ToxicFrog> | A bit heavy, though. |
| 15:24 | | * Tarinaky nods. |
| 15:27 | <&ToxicFrog> | Anyways. The fact that you only have a week to do this means you're kind of at the mercy of your local computer store and what they have in stock, so check there first, since there's no point deciding that a ____ is perfect for you and then realizing they don't have any -- unless you're willing to postpone getting it until you arrive at your destination. |
| 15:33 | <&ToxicFrog> | Tarinaky: oh, also, even if you don't have NewEgg where you are, they're still damn useful as a sort of search tool; you can filter by exactly what your requirements are and get a list of things back. |
| 16:10 | <@RchrdB> | ToxicFrog, I'm using a Clevo W230SS and it's really nice. |
| 16:11 | <@RchrdB> | with a 3200x1800 screen on it, which is gorgeous |
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| 17:22 | <@gnolam> | ... and I've managed to curse myself hoarse. |
| 17:23 | <@gnolam> | Mmm, database configuration... |
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