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| 01:33 | | * TheWatcher arghs at the dark engine |
| 01:33 | <@TheWatcher> | I know it's possible to do this, I have no sodding idea how, though |
| 01:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | Occasionally I toy with the idea of writing an extension for Dark that adds full lua scripting support |
| 01:37 | <&ToxicFrog> | Then I think back to everything you've said about programming for the Dark engine |
| 01:38 | <@TheWatcher> | There is actually an osm that lets you write scripts in lua. |
| 01:38 | <@TheWatcher> | The problem is that, while you can write it, the majority of the API is completely undocumented |
| 01:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | helpful |
| 01:39 | <@TheWatcher> | (not to mention horribly inconsistent) |
| 01:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | And unlike writing them in C++ you don't even get a type error when you misuse the API! |
| 01:49 | <@TheWatcher> | It does start to make a sort of twisted sense after a while, and it does make some tricks much easier, but SAN-friendly it is not |
| 01:49 | <&McMartin> | That's the way it goes, right~ |
| 01:50 | <@TheWatcher> | (And life is so much easier now I've ditched 90% of Telliamed's rather horrendous base code) |
| 01:50 | <&McMartin> | I need to start seriously thinking about preparing an Ophis 2.1 release. |
| 01:55 | <&McMartin> | (Step 1: wrap up and merge labelmap branch. Step 2: finish documenting libbasic.oph as an experimental new feature. Step 3: Some pragmas to make the previous less annoying. Step 4: update docbook.) |
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| 10:21 | | * Tarinaky arghs. |
| 10:21 | <@Tarinaky> | Trying to revise from this past paper. Once of the questions is "prove this thing is true" internet says it is false. |
| 10:21 | <@Tarinaky> | :///// |
| 10:21 | <@Tarinaky> | Fuck you maths. Fuck you in the butt. |
| 10:22 | <~Vornicus> | What's the thing? |
| 10:23 | <@Tarinaky> | "Let X be an Inner Product Space. Prove that X contains an infinite orthonormal sequence." |
| 10:23 | <@Tarinaky> | Err |
| 10:23 | <@Tarinaky> | *Infinite dimensional inner product space |
| 10:25 | <@Tarinaky> | I'm going for a shower. I might feel better if I get dressed. |
| 10:25 | <@Tarinaky> | I remember it involves using Gram-Schmidt Orthonormalisation. But I don't remember how to get started. |
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| 11:22 | <@Tarinaky> | bk |
| 11:22 | <~Vornicus> | kb |
| 11:23 | <@Tarinaky> | I'd rather you didn't. |
| 11:26 | <~Vornicus> | you'd rather I didn't play King's Bounty? |
| 11:26 | <@Tarinaky> | I read kb as kick-ban |
| 11:27 | < luke> | It might just be easier to prove that 1=2. |
| 11:27 | <@Tarinaky> | :/ |
| 11:27 | <@Tarinaky> | I won't get credit for doing that though |
| 11:27 | <@Tarinaky> | All proving 1=2 would do is make me thoroughly unpopular. |
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| 23:17 | < Julius> | I wonder - is there such a thing in production as VGA cables with three ends? |
| 23:18 | < Julius> | I mean, for connecting two machines to one monitor, with a switch for controlling which signal gets to be displayed. |
| 23:18 | <&McMartin> | "KVM switch" |
| 23:19 | <&McMartin> | It's a little larger than just a cable with a brick in the middle, but that's the device that solves the problem you describe (and also multiplexes your keyboard and mouse) |
| 23:19 | < Julius> | Oooh. |
| 23:20 | < Julius> | That would really help. I've been having a bad time with manually plugging and unplugging. |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, that's the search term you want on Amazon or Newegg or whoever. |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | "KVM" as an acronym is unfortunately a bit overloaded. |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | Keyboard/Video/Mouse Switch here, not Kernel Virtual Machine. |
| 23:25 | <@TheWatcher> | Julius: can't just use RDP/NX/X11? |
| 23:26 | < Julius> | That might also be possible. Both necessitate hardware purchase. |
| 23:26 | < Julius> | In the latter case, a switch. |
| 23:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yeah, multiplexing everything in software is kind of the easiest approach because that doesn't require any additional hardware (assuming you're already networked, which apparently you aren't!) |
| 23:27 | < Julius> | And another set of electrical plugs, because I'm at my limits with this amount. |
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| 23:28 | < Julius> | Actually, lemme see if that router-switch I purchased for 20kr (tip included) actually works. |
| 23:30 | <&McMartin> | Agreed that multiplexing in software is the easiest but if you're in a space where you need to actually have Real Console Access to multiple machines from one keyboard it won't solve that. |
| 23:30 | <&McMartin> | You don't need that often. |
| 23:35 | <&ToxicFrog> | Mmm, point. |
| 23:36 | <&ToxicFrog> | My approach to that at work was a telnet<->serial bridge and I haven't needed it at home yet. |
| 23:36 | <&McMartin> | I last needed it in, um |
| 23:36 | <&McMartin> | 2002 |
| 23:36 | <&McMartin> | So I could IRC on a Linux machine and have videogames running on my copy of Win98SE. |
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| 23:36 | < Julius> | The RS works! |
| 23:36 | < Julius> | But how do I communicate with it, to set up networking properly? |
| 23:37 | <@TheWatcher> | It'll probably have a management console on http://192.168.0.1/ or 10.0.0.1 |
| 23:39 | <&ToxicFrog> | Julius: plug a computer into it. See what gateway you get assigned via DHCP. Try talking to that via http. |
| 23:40 | < Julius> | ToxicFrog: Herein lies the problem - it does not appear to be assigning stuff via DHCP. No default gateway. Perhaps I should just statically define the network? |
| 23:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aah. In that case, yeah, you have to guess what network it's operating on and set that statically, then talk to it. |
| 23:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | Or do a factory reset, if it's one of those models that does DHCP in its stock configuration. |
| 23:42 | < Julius> | I can't just arbitrarily assign IP? |
| 23:43 | <&ToxicFrog> | You can, but it has to be on the same subnet as the RS to actually talk to it, AIUI. |
| 23:57 | < Julius> | The so-called automatically assigned address is 169.254.246.110/16 - what should I be hitting if I wish to find the router's IP? |
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