| --- Log opened Fri May 02 00:00:38 2014 |
| 00:04 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 00:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | My coding music at the moment is a mix of The Luna Sequence -- which I highly recommend, by the way -- and Kajiura Yuki. |
| 00:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | And The Best Of 8-Bit Collective. |
| 00:16 | | gnolam [lenin@Nightstar-o44c9a.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has quit [[NS] Quit: Crash] |
| 00:17 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 00:17 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 00:19 | | gnolam [lenin@Nightstar-o44c9a.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #code |
| 00:19 | | mode/#code [+o gnolam] by ChanServ |
| 00:28 | < [R]> | So, looking for a new registrar. Currently have godaddy, looking at doteasy right now. |
| 00:28 | < [R]> | Any other suggestions? |
| 00:34 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 00:34 | <@Azash> | namecheap seems fine |
| 00:34 | <@TheWatcher> | Keep clear of Freeparking. |
| 00:43 | <@Azash> | TheWatcher: He's already with GoDaddy so |
| 00:43 | < [R]> | Looks like namecheap or hover.com |
| 00:44 | < [R]> | Namecheap's got a bunch of recommends though |
| 01:06 | | HotShot[ipad] [HotShot@Nightstar-v7se27.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Connection closed] |
| 01:09 | <&McMartin> | Oh hey, this third-party library is old enough that its bundled openssl is not heartbleed-vulnerable |
| 01:09 | <&McMartin> | That's at least worth some medium-weight Austrian electronica |
| 01:12 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 01:15 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 01:35 | <@celticminstrel> | I have a copy of K&R. Wonder if it's worth looking at. |
| 01:36 | <&McMartin> | http://www.bobhobbs.com/files/kr_lovecraft.html |
| 01:36 | <@celticminstrel> | Uhhh...? |
| 01:37 | <&McMartin> | It's a lightly edited copy of chapter 4.10 of K&R. |
| 01:37 | <@celticminstrel> | Those code examples are not the syntax of the book. |
| 01:37 | <&McMartin> | HTML is a harsh mistress, yes. |
| 01:37 | <@celticminstrel> | Not that. |
| 01:38 | <@celticminstrel> | The book has pre-standard the "name(paramName,paramName) int paramName,paramName {" style. |
| 01:38 | <@celticminstrel> | ^the pre-standard |
| 01:38 | <@celticminstrel> | That page has the modern style, though with line breaks in odd places. |
| 01:38 | <&McMartin> | Oh |
| 01:39 | <&McMartin> | K&R 2 is ANSI. |
| 01:39 | <@celticminstrel> | Where "2" means "second edition" or something more like "sequel"? |
| 01:40 | <&McMartin> | The former. |
| 01:41 | <@celticminstrel> | That's not what I have. I think this book was my father's originally. |
| 01:41 | <@celticminstrel> | It's been in the house for awhile. |
| 01:41 | | * McMartin nods |
| 01:41 | <@celticminstrel> | ^-I think |
| 01:41 | <@celticminstrel> | (It has his name in it; there's no doubt to be had. >_> ) |
| 01:42 | <&McMartin> | Heh |
| 01:42 | <@celticminstrel> | I'm kinda debating whether to keep it. |
| 01:48 | | Kindamoody[zZz] is now known as Kindamoody |
| 01:51 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody|afk |
| 02:05 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-q9amk4.ffp.csiro.au] has joined #code |
| 02:05 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 02:15 | | HotShot[ipad] [HotShot@Nightstar-v7se27.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #code |
| 02:47 | | macdjord|wurk is now known as macdjord |
| 02:49 | | HotShot[ipad] [HotShot@Nightstar-v7se27.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 04:12 | | JackKnife [Z@Nightstar-484uip.cust.comxnet.dk] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 04:33 | <@celticminstrel> | Updating to latest Firefox magically restores my toolbar... |
| 04:33 | <@celticminstrel> | ...wow, customize has changed. o.O |
| 04:34 | <@celticminstrel> | But... the status bar seems to be gone. >< |
| 04:34 | | VirusJTG_ [VirusJTG@Nightstar-6i5vf7.sta.comporium.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: Program Shutting down] |
| 04:37 | <@celticminstrel> | Yay, I got it back with an addon. |
| 04:41 | <@celticminstrel> | ...but now the status text is broken... :| |
| 04:57 | <@celticminstrel> | Hm, looks like it's somehow fragile. It works until I enter customize mode. Or possibly until I edit the addon bar. |
| 05:00 | | Derakon is now known as Derakon[AFK] |
| 05:02 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [[NS] Quit: "Too long have night and day warred, their false dichotomy plaguing this land. No more. I come now to put them both down, to usher in a new era of balance and peace. For now is the time of... /Twilight/. *And the Dusk shall Reign Eternal.*"] |
| 05:05 | <@celticminstrel> | ...Firefox sync is telling me it needs cookies. It's not telling me the domain of the cookie so that I can whitelist it. :/ |
| 05:15 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #code |
| 05:15 | | mode/#code [+o macdjord] by ChanServ |
| 05:57 | | HotShot[ipad] [HotShot@Nightstar-t3672h.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code |
| 06:04 | | HotShot[ipad] [HotShot@Nightstar-t3672h.sfldmi.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Connection closed] |
| 06:19 | | RchrdB [RichardB@Nightstar-c6u.vd5.170.83.IP] has quit [[NS] Quit: Gone.] |
| 06:22 | | RchrdB [RichardB@Nightstar-c6u.vd5.170.83.IP] has joined #code |
| 06:39 | | macdjord is now known as macdjord|slep |
| 06:43 | <@celticminstrel> | gnome-software is altogether to simple to be usable. |
| 06:44 | <@celticminstrel> | Where's the "update now" button? Why can't I see how big the downloads are, or selectively install only certain updates? Bleh. |
| 06:46 | <@celticminstrel> | It's also saying it's up-to-date when I know for a fact that at least one thing isn't. |
| 06:59 | <@celticminstrel> | Hm, after uninstalling it I seem to lack any replacement despite yum's claim that gnome-packagekit is installed. |
| 07:05 | <@celticminstrel> | ...I wonder if it'd just be easier to always update from the command-line with yum. >_> |
| 07:06 | <&McMartin> | On a personal machine that's independently administered? |
| 07:06 | <&McMartin> | Almost absolutely so. =P |
| 07:10 | <@celticminstrel> | It's not even difficult; just one simple command updates everything. |
| 07:10 | <@celticminstrel> | I assume there are ways to update just specific things, too. |
| 07:11 | <&McMartin> | Yes; name the package after the part where you say "sudo yum upgrade" |
| 07:11 | <&McMartin> | Speaking of, looks like there's a kernel upgrade pending on this system. |
| 07:11 | <@celticminstrel> | Fun! |
| 07:11 | <@celticminstrel> | And yeah, that would've been my first guess. |
| 07:12 | <@celticminstrel> | The only upside of gnome-software was the ability to browse through to see if there's anything interesting I might never have heard of otherwise. |
| 07:18 | <@celticminstrel> | ...blargh. I think I need to fix the grub menu again. |
| 07:21 | <&McMartin> | Right then. Time to reboot to apply said updates. |
| 07:21 | | McMartin [mcmartin@Nightstar-rpcdbf.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: brb] |
| 07:32 | | McMartin [mcmartin@Nightstar-rpcdbf.sntcca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #code |
| 07:32 | | mode/#code [+ao McMartin McMartin] by ChanServ |
| 07:36 | <@celticminstrel> | Turns out grub default can be set to the name of the item rather than the index... hopefully this'll mean I don't have to fix the menu again. |
| 07:36 | <@celticminstrel> | (Since every update adds a new item to the list, for some reason.) |
| 07:37 | <&McMartin> | That's kind of odd; when I take updates in yum it tends to clean out older copies, retaining a history of 2-4 kernels. |
| 07:38 | <@celticminstrel> | I think I just reached 4, actually. |
| 07:38 | <@celticminstrel> | Or maybe I'm still at 3, can't quite remember. |
| 07:38 | <@celticminstrel> | So, maybe the next update won't. |
| 07:41 | <@celticminstrel> | Not sure if the "rescue" one counts. |
| 07:42 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, me either. |
| 07:42 | <&McMartin> | But after awhile you should start seeing "Removing: kernel-XX.YY.ZZZZ" on the list of things yum intends to do on upgrade. |
| 07:43 | <&McMartin> | At least, that's been how stuff has been on Fedora for for the past, oh, 15 releases or so. CentOS might roll differently. |
| 07:50 | <@celticminstrel> | This is Fedora. |
| 07:55 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-q9amk4.ffp.csiro.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 08:06 | | macdjord|slep [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [[NS] Quit: "Too long have night and day warred, their false dichotomy plaguing this land. No more. I come now to put them both down, to usher in a new era of balance and peace. For now is the time of... /Twilight/. *And the Dusk shall Reign Eternal.*"] |
| 08:12 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #code |
| 08:12 | | mode/#code [+o macdjord] by ChanServ |
| 08:13 | | macdjord is now known as macdjord|slep |
| 08:19 | | macdjord|slep [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 08:19 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #code |
| 08:19 | | mode/#code [+o macdjord] by ChanServ |
| 08:32 | | AverageJoe [evil1@Nightstar-fb1kt4.ph.cox.net] has joined #code |
| 08:44 | | celticminstrel [celticminst@Nightstar-ha4ihv.dsl.bell.ca] has quit [[NS] Quit: And lo! The computer falls into a deep sleep, to awake again some other day!] |
| 09:32 | | AverageJoe [evil1@Nightstar-fb1kt4.ph.cox.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: Leaving] |
| 10:12 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 10:20 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #code |
| 10:20 | | mode/#code [+o macdjord] by ChanServ |
| 10:36 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 10:39 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #code |
| 10:40 | | mode/#code [+o macdjord] by ChanServ |
| 10:42 | | mode/#code [+o RchrdB] by ChanServ |
| 10:44 | <@RchrdB> | McMartin, my CentOS machine does the same. |
| 10:46 | <@RchrdB> | It's got 5 kernels lying around in /boot. They're all spaced out a month apart. |
| 10:47 | <@Azash> | RchrdB: Soon you'll have a whole cob~ |
| 10:47 | | * RchrdB hugs Azash. |
| 11:00 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 11:00 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 11:04 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 11:05 | | * TheWatcher readsup, laughs entirely too hard at "<&McMartin> It's a lightly edited copy of chapter 4.10 of K&R." |
| 11:06 | <@TheWatcher> | I wonder if I should post a link to that in my C course.... |
| 11:08 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 11:11 | <&McMartin> | It's a classic. You totally should. |
| 11:11 | <&McMartin> | I particularly love the exercises at the end. |
| 11:18 | | * TheWatcher ponders a "If you find you're having trouble with the material on recursion, It could be so much worse" |
| 11:21 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 11:21 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 11:26 | | * Azash notes that the ubuntu automatic updater collapses into a mournful heap when apt-get update would solve the issue |
| 11:36 | | JackKnife [Z@Nightstar-484uip.cust.comxnet.dk] has joined #code |
| 11:36 | | mode/#code [+o JackKnife] by ChanServ |
| 11:41 | <@Azash> | typedef double (*(*(*fp3)())[10])(); |
| 11:41 | <@Azash> | Why |
| 11:41 | <~Vornicus> | what. |
| 11:41 | <@Azash> | 'It says âAn fp3 is a pointer to a function that takes no arguments and returns a pointer to an array of 10 pointers to functions that take no arguments and return doubles.' |
| 11:41 | <@Azash> | It's from Eckel's Thinking in C++ book |
| 11:42 | <@Azash> | I sometimes look it up again when I feel the world is a fun place |
| 12:00 | <@Tarinaky> | "On second thought lets not use C++, it is a silly language." |
| 12:00 | <@Tarinaky> | "It's only a model." |
| 12:02 | | VirusJTG [VirusJTG@Nightstar-6i5vf7.sta.comporium.net] has joined #code |
| 12:20 | | Vornicus [Vorn@ServerAdministrator.Nightstar.Net] has quit [[NS] Quit: Leaving] |
| 12:22 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 12:26 | | * TheWatcher chuckles at the Limit Theory dev |
| 12:28 | <@TheWatcher> | "I'm capruting now with my native Linux client, which is actually the version of LT I develop on. Previously I was using Windows, and it's just.. it's annoying, so" |
| 12:35 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 12:35 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 12:39 | <&jerith> | Azash: While that might be a useful type to have, it makes much more sense if it's broken down into multiple steps. |
| 12:44 | <@Azash> | On a side note, if someone would like to read it (it is a good book), I have a mirror at http://cs.helsinki.fi/u/lindert/ticpp/ |
| 12:52 | <@Azash> | http://www.ece.illinois.edu/mediacenter/article.asp?id=7897 |
| 13:56 | <@Azash> | http://serverfault.com/questions/293217/our-security-auditor-is-an-idiot-how-do- i-give-him-the-information-he-wants |
| 14:10 | | mac [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #code |
| 14:10 | | mode/#code [+o mac] by ChanServ |
| 14:11 | | macdjord [macdjord@Nightstar-7rac1r.mc.videotron.ca] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 14:13 | | mac is now known as macdjord|wurk |
| 14:39 | < froztbyte> | when that first came out, the internet laughed and cried |
| 14:39 | < froztbyte> | when the updates came out, the rollercoaster went on and on |
| 14:41 | | * TheWatcher hrms at emacs |
| 14:42 | <@TheWatcher> | I have a chunk of documentation in a comment, and want to edit it, but doing so will mean manually rewrapping the lines |
| 14:42 | <@TheWatcher> | I wonder if there's some incantation to make it rewrap the lines, limting the left margin to inside the comment marker, and the right margin to 80 |
| 14:45 | <@TheWatcher> | (M-x fill-region doesn't work, as it uses 0 as the left margin. And there's no fill-rectangle, hrm) |
| 14:53 | <@TheWatcher> | (and cua mode rectangle fill doesn't help,bah) |
| 14:53 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 14:54 | | * Azash dives into Rails source, writes arcane custom overrides to debug, grumbles about the pain of 1.x -> 3.2.16 upgrade |
| 15:04 | < froztbyte> | AHAHHAHHHHAHAHAHAHAHA |
| 15:04 | < froztbyte> | man. |
| 15:04 | < froztbyte> | I don't even want to know what happened there, Azash |
| 15:04 | < froztbyte> | (because I saw 1.x->1.9->2.x) |
| 15:05 | <@Azash> | froztbyte: The best part |
| 15:05 | < froztbyte> | Azash: nope |
| 15:05 | < froztbyte> | nopenopenope |
| 15:05 | < froztbyte> | imma go have a beer and pretend you said nothing!~ ;D |
| 15:05 | <@Azash> | "Okay we're going to get you a mentor, and then the second dude who's with you on this is our most senior support dev" |
| 15:05 | <@Azash> | My mentor got deployed elsewhere |
| 15:05 | < froztbyte> | (keep going. I can't look away) |
| 15:05 | <@Azash> | And the other dude got moved off the project because support is support |
| 15:06 | <@Azash> | So for this very cryptic massive huge bit of enterprise software |
| 15:06 | <@Azash> | Upgrading two rails versions |
| 15:06 | <@Azash> | They have the dude who couldn't write a single line of RoR before starting here |
| 15:06 | <@Azash> | ??? |
| 15:06 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 15:06 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 15:06 | < froztbyte> | and who might still get a better result |
| 15:07 | | * Azash http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7_Qko2xrjA#t=42s |
| 15:07 | <@Azash> | froztbyte: Even if I say so myself I am swimming very well here |
| 15:07 | <@Azash> | But it didn't start off very quickly |
| 15:12 | | * Azash puts on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP897M7JuII for music |
| 15:26 | < froztbyte> | haha |
| 15:38 | | * Azash eyes mystical typo that invalidates an entire component but nobody has ever complained |
| 15:39 | <@ErikMesoy> | Sounds silly. |
| 15:40 | < froztbyte> | probably at least 50% chance that it got method_missing'd |
| 15:44 | <@Azash> | froztbyte: Undefined variable dereference |
| 15:44 | <@Azash> | But probable |
| 15:44 | < froztbyte> | Azash: I know too much about ruby culture :( |
| 15:45 | < froztbyte> | (and I haven't even dealt with that clownfest in like 6 years) |
| 15:45 | <@Azash> | Aforementioned mentor showed how he encountered that problem and the ~million steps that it entailed |
| 16:35 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Operation timed out] |
| 16:49 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 16:49 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 16:54 | <@Azash> | http://securityreactions.tumblr.com/post/81787484824/we-need-you-to-get-in-here- right-away-the-jr-sysadmin |
| 17:08 | | Syka [the@Nightstar-829.4c8.156.120.IP] has joined #code |
| 17:09 | | Syka is now known as NSGuest6063 |
| 17:21 | | Derakon [chriswei@Nightstar-5fqf0m.ca.comcast.net] has joined #code |
| 17:21 | | mode/#code [+ao Derakon Derakon] by ChanServ |
| 17:38 | | NSGuest6063 [the@Nightstar-829.4c8.156.120.IP] has quit [[NS] Quit: leaving] |
| 17:45 | | celticminstrel [celticminst@Nightstar-ha4ihv.dsl.bell.ca] has joined #code |
| 17:45 | | mode/#code [+o celticminstrel] by ChanServ |
| 17:54 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 18:01 | <&Derakon> | Man, I always forget how to do this. |
| 18:01 | <&Derakon> | Regex question: I want to search for one of two possible substrings. |
| 18:02 | <&Derakon> | Intuitively I try something like /[public|private]/ but that looks at individual characters. |
| 18:03 | <&Derakon> | (My actual goal in this case is to develop a regex that will match Java function declarations, taking advantage of the fact that we put the open-curly on the same line as the function name in most cases) |
| 18:07 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 18:07 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 18:13 | <&Derakon> | ...hooray I've broken the nightlies via refactoring. |
| 18:14 | <@ErikMesoy> | Derakon: I think it's (public|private) |
| 18:14 | <&Derakon> | That doesn't work in vim (nor if you escape the parens). |
| 18:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | Then vim is broken. |
| 18:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Because that is in fact how you do it. |
| 18:19 | <@Tamber> | Or vim isn't using 'proper' regex. ...which amounts to the same thing, really. |
| 18:19 | <&Derakon> | Hooray. |
| 18:19 | <&Derakon> | Okay, well, thanks. |
| 18:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Tamber: even "improper" regexes support that! |
| 18:19 | <@Tamber> | ...oh dear. |
| 18:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Off the top of my head, it works in formal regexes, EREs, BREs, PCRE, JVM RE, and Python RE |
| 18:20 | <&Derakon> | Ah, got it. |
| 18:20 | <&Derakon> | I had to escape the pipe as well. |
| 18:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh |
| 18:20 | <&Derakon> | \(public\|private\) |
| 18:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yeah, if you're using BREs, every 'special' character needs to be escaped |
| 18:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | (don't use BREs) |
| 18:20 | <&Derakon> | It's always hard to know when vim will search for a character literal vs. a control code. |
| 18:20 | <&Derakon> | BRE? |
| 18:20 | <&ToxicFrog> | Basic Regular Expression. |
| 18:21 | <&ToxicFrog> | i.e. the regexes nothing uses except for a specific compatibility mode of GNU Grep |
| 18:21 | | AnnoDomini is now known as Number3 |
| 18:21 | < froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: aww, c'mon |
| 18:22 | < froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: everyone has to learn this lesson by finding out the nuances of PCRE, POSIX RE, and whatever the fuck will happen between bsd sed and gnu sed~! |
| 18:22 | <&Derakon> | froztbyte: man, anytime I want to do something complicated on the commandline, I just run it through perl. |
| 18:22 | < froztbyte> | rofl |
| 18:22 | <&ToxicFrog> | froztbyte: ISTR finding out some years ago that OSX sed and GNU sed both support EREs, but the command line flags to activate them are different! |
| 18:22 | <&ToxicFrog> | There's still a hack in ghdl to support that, I think. |
| 18:22 | <&Derakon> | find . -whatever | perl -ne 'print if (/whatever/)' |
| 18:23 | < froztbyte> | my worst shell offense, ever |
| 18:23 | < froztbyte> | was around 2.7TB of text processing on some old dual-CPU p3 gear |
| 18:23 | < froztbyte> | the source dataset was around 3.2GB. |
| 18:23 | < froztbyte> | (2.7TB was the total processed volume, through all scripts and loops and whatever) |
| 18:23 | < froztbyte> | also |
| 18:24 | < froztbyte> | bash string manipulation is *slow* |
| 18:25 | <&ToxicFrog> | What's ^] meant to be? |
| 18:25 | <@Tamber> | Italics, maybe? |
| 18:27 | < froztbyte> | afaict, yeah |
| 18:28 | < froztbyte> | sorry, I meant to underline |
| 18:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | That's ^_ |
| 18:29 | <&Derakon> | Argh, ImageJ's API documentation is such shit. |
| 18:29 | <&Derakon> | Most functions have no docs at all, and the ones that do... |
| 18:29 | <&Derakon> | getCanvas(): Returns the ImageCanvas being used to display this image, or null. |
| 18:29 | <&Derakon> | Why is it null? |
| 18:29 | < froztbyte> | I'm on quassel here |
| 18:29 | <&Derakon> | I have a bug where it's null and I have no idea why! |
| 18:29 | < froztbyte> | 'twas a misclick |
| 18:29 | < froztbyte> | not a fatfinger |
| 18:30 | < froztbyte> | Derakon: oh, re your example |
| 18:30 | < froztbyte> | find is a pet hate of mind |
| 18:30 | < froztbyte> | mine* |
| 18:30 | < froztbyte> | it is not good software. |
| 18:30 | < froztbyte> | it is also infuriating software |
| 18:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | Derakon: image is not mapped to any canvas? |
| 18:31 | <&ToxicFrog> | froztbyte: counterpoint: find is a shell interface to ftw(3) and thus owns |
| 18:32 | <@Tamber> | I am mildly disappointed that there is no ftl(3). |
| 18:32 | <@Tamber> | At least, not on my system. |
| 18:32 | < froztbyte> | ToxicFrog: find me files by uid $x between sizes $a and $b, created/modified between $c and $d |
| 18:33 | < froztbyte> | and $c and $d are *not* output of `date -d` in some form. |
| 18:34 | < froztbyte> | (when I do this, I break out some python) |
| 18:34 | <&Derakon> | ...so you're complaining that it doesn't have robust date format handling? Because date format handling is a pain in the ass. |
| 18:34 | < froztbyte> | no, some other stuff about it is a pain in the ass too |
| 18:34 | <@Tamber> | It's a pain in the everything. |
| 18:34 | < froztbyte> | that's just the most common problem I run into |
| 18:36 | | Datawalke [Datawalke@Nightstar-ks2sek.pa.comcast.net] has joined #code |
| 19:07 | | Datawalke [Datawalke@Nightstar-ks2sek.pa.comcast.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: ] |
| 19:10 | | Datawalke [Datawalke@Nightstar-jhv2rm.members.linode.com] has joined #code |
| 19:20 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 19:22 | | Ogredude [quassel@Nightstar-dm1jvh.projectzenonline.com] has quit [The TLS connection was non-properly terminated.] |
| 19:23 | | Ogredude [quassel@Nightstar-dm1jvh.projectzenonline.com] has joined #code |
| 19:23 | | mode/#code [+o Ogredude] by ChanServ |
| 19:32 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 19:33 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 20:20 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 20:32 | | * Derakon blarghs. |
| 20:32 | <&Derakon> | I have no idea why this code doesn't work. |
| 20:32 | <&Derakon> | It looks like ImageJ is trying to paint to a window before finishing initializing that window. |
| 20:32 | <&Derakon> | WTF. |
| 20:33 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 20:33 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 20:39 | | HotShot[ipad] [HotShot@Nightstar-v7se27.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #code |
| 20:51 | | JackKnife [Z@Nightstar-484uip.cust.comxnet.dk] has quit [[NS] Quit: If the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off.] |
| 21:08 | | Number3 is now known as AnnoDomini |
| 21:30 | | HotShot[ipad] [HotShot@Nightstar-v7se27.try.wideopenwest.com] has quit [Connection closed] |
| 21:45 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 21:50 | <@TheWatcher> | Derakon: :java: |
| 21:53 | <&Derakon> | Ehh, this isn't :java:, just :imagej:. |
| 21:54 | <@ErikMesoy> | :colons: |
| 21:55 | <&Derakon> | "Returns the ImageCanvas being used to display this image, or null." |
| 21:55 | <@Azash> | :iiam: |
| 21:55 | <&Derakon> | ^ ImageJ's documentation is so terrible. |
| 21:56 | <&Derakon> | Why is it null? We handed you a perfectly good object to work off of! |
| 21:56 | <@Tamber> | "Just in case!" |
| 21:57 | | * Derakon downloads ImageJ's source code so he can figure out what's going on under the hood. |
| 21:58 | <@Tamber> | Spiders. |
| 21:59 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 21:59 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 22:01 | <@Azash> | https://i.imgur.com/1l2zOHY.png |
| 22:01 | | Derakon [chriswei@Nightstar-5fqf0m.ca.comcast.net] has quit [[NS] Quit: leaving] |
| 22:02 | <@Tamber> | "...hm." |
| 22:09 | | Vornicus [Vorn@ServerAdministrator.Nightstar.Net] has joined #code |
| 22:09 | | mode/#code [+qo Vornicus Vornicus] by ChanServ |
| 22:11 | | JackKnife [Z@Nightstar-pdi1tp.customer.tdc.net] has joined #code |
| 22:11 | | mode/#code [+o JackKnife] by ChanServ |
| 22:45 | <@Tarinaky> | Things that can be described with the adjective 'steaming': Java :3 |
| 22:58 | <&McMartin> | Also steam! |
| 23:03 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 121 seconds] |
| 23:12 | <@Tarinaky> | McMartin: Steaming pile of... steam! |
| 23:13 | <&McMartin> | But enough talk, have at you? |
| 23:16 | <@Azash> | I hope you have a boat ready for a quick escape |
| 23:17 | | himi [fow035@Nightstar-v37cpe.internode.on.net] has joined #code |
| 23:17 | | mode/#code [+o himi] by ChanServ |
| 23:17 | | * McMartin clears his throat. |
| 23:17 | <&McMartin> | "Why, did you want to borrow one?" |
| 23:17 | <@Azash> | Survived the transition, well done |
| 23:18 | <&McMartin> | Oh, but that's the 'wrong' answer. |
| 23:18 | <&McMartin> | Sorry |
| 23:18 | | * McMartin rewinds |
| 23:18 | <&McMartin> | "No fair, you're using the Sword Master's insults, I see." |
| 23:18 | <@Azash> | Are you implying I'm not the sword master? |
| 23:18 | | * Azash dumps a truckload of shirts on McMartin |
| 23:18 | <&McMartin> | Man |
| 23:19 | <&McMartin> | I actually got to deploy the "We'll surely avoid scurvy if we all just eat an orange." line yesterday, too. |
| 23:19 | <&McMartin> | Which remains one of my favorite sequences, but CMI as a whole does not hold up. |
| 23:19 | <&McMartin> | And I'm not 100% sure why it doesn't. |
| 23:19 | <@Tarinaky> | CMI? |
| 23:19 | <@Azash> | Curse of Monkey Island |
| 23:20 | <&McMartin> | The third of the games. |
| 23:20 | <@Tarinaky> | Ahh. |
| 23:20 | <@Azash> | Also semi-related, McMartin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kQBVneC30o#t=8s |
| 23:20 | <@Tarinaky> | I never played the Monkey Island games. |
| 23:20 | <@Tarinaky> | I got to play Simon the Sorcerer though. |
| 23:20 | <&McMartin> | The first one is a legit classic, and the "Special Edition" is pretty OK |
| 23:20 | <&McMartin> | I don't like the modernized animations, but it's great to see Dominic Armato get the original lines. |
| 23:21 | <@Azash> | I have the modernized versions but haven't really tried them yet |
| 23:21 | <&McMartin> | They have a function key to go into Old School Mode. |
| 23:35 | <@Azash> | Nice |
| 23:36 | <&McMartin> | For various reasons, I dislike Monkey Island 2 a lot, but some of the reasons I dislike are reasons other people like it the best of the series |
| 23:36 | <&McMartin> | So... |
| 23:37 | <&McMartin> | YMMV, I guess |
| 23:38 | | Vornicus [Vorn@ServerAdministrator.Nightstar.Net] has quit [Connection reset by peer] |
| --- Log closed Sat May 03 00:00:54 2014 |