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| 00:54 | <@gnolam> | And if you're in Python, it's PySide, not PyQt, you want. |
| 00:54 | <@gnolam> | (Even though you don't have Qt5 support yet) |
| 00:56 | | * thalass investimagates |
| 01:00 | <@gnolam> | (PyQt is the "original" binding. PySide is the one that was started by Nokia after the PyQt guys refused to have anything besides full GPL and commercial.) |
| 01:00 | <@gnolam> | s/anything/any license |
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| 01:04 | <@Shiz> | from what I saw neither of the bindings is very pythonic |
| 01:04 | <@Shiz> | sadly |
| 01:09 | <@gnolam> | Close adherence to the underlying API is a Good Thing (TM). |
| 01:09 | <@gnolam> | And PySide basically /is/ the main Qt API, with Python-relevant simplifications/shortcuts where appropriate. |
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| 01:13 | <@Shiz> | I'd disagree |
| 01:14 | <@Shiz> | re: close adherence |
| 01:14 | <@Shiz> | programming languages differ, applicable paradigms/techniques/feature differ |
| 01:15 | <&Derakon> | Nonsense. |
| 01:15 | <&Derakon> | A skilled physicist can write FORTRAN in any language. |
| 01:15 | <&Derakon> | (And I don't mean "He can implement a FORTRAN interpreter") |
| 01:15 | <@Shiz> | a skilled mathematician can write MATLAB in any language |
| 01:19 | <@gnolam> | Shiz: in which case you're looking for a complete wrapper, not a binding. |
| 01:19 | <@Shiz> | sure. |
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| 07:29 | < Harlow> | Is anyone concerned with the direction that google is going? (I know it's many directions) |
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| 07:47 | <@Alek> | well, there IS the cargo ship in Seattle bay? |
| 07:47 | <@Alek> | or in San Fran? |
| 07:49 | < Harlow> | Well, that is weird, also there are 3 ships. |
| 07:54 | <@Alek> | one in Maine, was it? |
| 07:55 | < Harlow> | There is one in San Fran (maybe multiple), and yeah I could have sworn they had one in Maine. |
| 07:56 | < Harlow> | Im just seeing san fran though. maybe it is only one? |
| 07:57 | < Harlow> | Nope, there are 3, they're all just in san fran. http://www.theverge.com/2013/12/2/5167652/new-report-says-googles-mystery-barges -are-floating-retail-stores |
| 07:57 | <@Alek> | well, I'm reading of one in San Fran and one in Portland, Maine. |
| 07:58 | <@Alek> | your link says there WILL BE 3, San Fran, LA, and NYC. |
| 07:58 | < Harlow> | Yep, my bad. |
| 07:59 | <@simon_> | I wonder why all shells use a plaintext .history rather than a trie stored in binary format |
| 07:59 | <@simon_> | sure, for simple shells, but why doesn't zsh do it? |
| 08:00 | <@Alek> | the NYC one could well be under construction in Maine. |
| 08:00 | <@simon_> | I could store all commands I've ever typed at low storage cost and low lookup cost |
| 08:26 | | Kindamoody[zZz] is now known as Kindamoody |
| 08:30 | <@Tarinaky> | Reasons I am an asshole: There's an AMA for an Ion Propulsion research lab. Someone asked how fast you could get an ion drive going with ridiculous power... |
| 08:30 | <@Tarinaky> | I couldn't help myself but reply 'Approximately 3x10**8 meters per second' |
| 08:30 | <@Tarinaky> | Anyway. Exam. Appropriately enough, Physics. |
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| 09:02 | | * Azash eyes security course assignments |
| 09:02 | <@Azash> | >Inspired by your explanation, your colleague announces he will implement a new operating system security module to provide "Easy Mandatory Access Control Systematically" in a Linux-like environment. |
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| 09:04 | <@simon_> | access control on what level? |
| 09:04 | <@simon_> | system calls? |
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| 09:05 | <@Azash> | Files |
| 09:05 | <@Azash> | 4a is about Chinese Walls and text documents, so |
| 09:05 | <@Azash> | (that was 4b) |
| 09:05 | <@simon_> | so chmod? :) |
| 09:06 | | * Vornicus eyes azash |
| 09:06 | <~Vornicus> | I take it you're /really/ eyeing the obvious acronym |
| 09:06 | <@Azash> | Yeah |
| 09:07 | <@simon_> | heh. didn't notice that. |
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| 11:49 | <@Tarinaky> | http://i.imgur.com/VdcCD4o.jpg << *snnnrk* |
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| 13:43 | < Thalass> | *snerk* |
| 14:46 | < AbuDhabi_> | Any opinions on good printers and scanners, guys? |
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| 15:36 | < RichyB> | AbuDhabi_, think hard |
| 15:36 | < RichyB> | do you need colour |
| 15:36 | < RichyB> | do you REALLY need colour? |
| 15:36 | < RichyB> | are you SURE you need colour? |
| 15:36 | < RichyB> | You probably don't actually need colour. |
| 15:36 | < RichyB> | Get a cheap-ish B&W laser printer. Acceptable ones can now be bought for ~£70. |
| 15:37 | < AbuDhabi_> | Ain't for me. I was asked for suggestions for the company I work for. |
| 15:39 | < ErikMesoy> | Sounds like you need colour, then. >_> |
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| 16:06 | | * TheWatcher eyes this |
| 16:07 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm apparently incapable of typing 'join' correctly today. I keep typing it as 'joint' and having to delete the 't'. Every damned time. |
| 16:21 | < RichyB> | Move to Colorado? |
| 16:21 | <&McMartin> | HEYOO |
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| 17:02 | < Thalass> | We have a pixma all-in-one. The print side works with linux fine, over the network and all that, but i don't use the scanner enough to put the effort in to make it work. Works fine with windows, of course |
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| 17:07 | < Thalass> | Godsdamnit. My pet peeve: Not including the "enter" key as an option to make the $thing start happening. My work-related programs and websites seem to suffer this |
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| 17:51 | <&Derakon> | Bleh, I hate reviewing changes to this function: http://pastebin.com/kN0Zpmn2 |
| 17:52 | <&Derakon> | There's just so many subtle ways it can go wrong. |
| 17:52 | <&Derakon> | (Witness almost half of it being comments) |
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| 18:06 | < RichyB> | Derakon, a model and a large automated test suite? |
| 18:08 | <&Derakon> | Good luck convincing my boss to let me dedicate the time to make a test suite, especially as I'll be leaving the job in the next few months. |
| 18:08 | <&Derakon> | (And I know, that's exactly when you'd want to have a test suite...) |
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| 18:38 | < RichyB> | Is your boss going to dedicate time to having you produce documentation for your successor? |
| 18:42 | <&Derakon> | Kicking and screaming all the way, yes. |
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| 19:10 | <@froztbyte> | oops. |
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| 20:52 | < AbuDhabi_> | Hmmm. What's a good black-and-white fast laser printer with a scanner? |
| 21:03 | | * TheWatcher does unholy and forbidden things involving excel spreadsheet parsing and perl |
| 21:03 | < AbuDhabi_> | You're writing a 4x game? |
| 21:04 | <@TheWatcher> | Pft |
| 21:11 | <@simon_> | TheWatcher, Perl has some pretty decent excel libraries, doesn't it? |
| 21:12 | <@TheWatcher> | Yep |
| 21:12 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm using one |
| 21:12 | <@TheWatcher> | (Spreadsheet::ParseExcel in fact) |
| 21:12 | <@simon_> | I'm always amazed when open source software actually interoperates with proprietary formats. |
| 21:12 | <@Alek> | eew. shouldn't using "perl" and "excellent" in the same sentence be against the geek code? |
| 21:13 | <@TheWatcher> | simon_: Lots of painful reverse engineering -_- |
| 21:16 | | * Derakon has Alek shot for language bigotry against something that isn't PHP. |
| 21:16 | <&Derakon> | Perl is a perfectly valid language with at least one niche it excels in. |
| 21:17 | <&McMartin> | Hacking Excel files is not that niche though~ |
| 21:17 | < AbuDhabi_> | Hammer. Nail. |
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| 21:19 | <@Tamber> | $tool->{'hammer'}->hit($fastener->{'screw'}); |
| 21:19 | <@TheWatcher> | The previous line brought to you by An Implementation of the Birmingham Screwdriver |
| 21:20 | <@Tamber> | A screw is merely a nail with extra surface area. |
| 21:20 | <@Tamber> | :p |
| 21:20 | | * TheWatcher twitch |
| 21:21 | <@Tamber> | I should avoid mentioning the bolts I hammered in, yesterday, then? |
| 21:21 | <@TheWatcher> | Please. |
| 21:21 | <@Tamber> | (It's okay! They're meant to be like that. They're the expanding type to hold things to the floor.) |
| 21:22 | | * ErikMesoy just imagines the two Excel RPGs he's seen. |
| 21:25 | | * Thalass chuckles |
| 21:26 | < Thalass> | My mother in law started hammering in a screw last night, and i was about to object when she got the screwdriver out. It was just to hold it in place to start with. >.< |
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| 21:32 | <@Reiv> | Thalass: You... hadn't seen that? |
| 21:32 | <@Reiv> | It's a pretty common way of getting a screw to start tapping. |
| 21:32 | < Thalass> | I don't work with wood very much |
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| 22:09 | <@Alek> | oh, sorry, right, that one. got them mixed up, I guess. |
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| 22:10 | | * Alek has made rudimentary basic RPGs. Excel, eh... he would have tried, if he'd had it at the time. Not inclined that way currently. |
| 22:11 | <@Alek> | also, it kinda helped that I had my calculator with my all the time, then. for coding on. |
| 22:14 | <@Reiv> | I can make rudimentary basic RPGs all day. |
| 22:14 | <@Alek> | and I mean basic as in BASIC. the language. <_< |
| 22:14 | <@Alek> | or variants thereof. |
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| 23:42 | <&McMartin> | Blargh. quarter to 4 is too early to be loopy with fatigue toxins |
| 23:42 | | * McMartin has things to write |
| 23:42 | <@Reiv> | You need to fix your sleep again, McM? |
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| 23:45 | <&McMartin> | I'm mid-fix, more or less |
| 23:46 | | * McMartin crashed at 8:30 PM or so last night but only got about 5-6 hours of sleep |
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