| --- Log opened Sun Jan 05 00:00:40 2014 |
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| 04:17 | < Turaiel> | Would someone be willing to sanity check some code in a short PHP file? :D |
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| 04:48 | <@celticminstrel> | Blargh. |
| 04:50 | <@celticminstrel> | My mouse and keyboard aren't working at the Win7 login screen. :| |
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| 04:56 | <@celticminstrel> | ...it seems to have magically fixed itself. This makes me uneasy. |
| 04:58 | < Turaiel> | Probably installed drivers. |
| 05:00 | <@celticminstrel> | But if it magically fixed itself, maybe it'll magically unfix itself later. |
| 05:00 | <@celticminstrel> | It only stopped working after I installed Linux on a partition. |
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| 09:56 | < [R]> | Turaiel[Offline]: Sure. |
| 10:15 | < Reiver> | oh gods my skull |
| 10:15 | < Reiver> | VORN SAVE ME FROM BEAUROCRACY |
| 10:15 | < Reiver> | So I have what should be relatively simple algebra. I think. |
| 10:18 | | * Vornicus offers a ticket for the october labor lottery |
| 10:19 | <~Vornicus> | (also, bureaucracy) |
| 10:19 | < Reiver> | hooray, I uh think |
| 10:19 | < Reiver> | So, I have a customs website |
| 10:22 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 10:22 | < Reiver> | It will hit me with a hundred bucks worth of duties should the value of my order hit NZ $300 |
| 10:22 | <~Vornicus> | And you have some number of things you wish to order? |
| 10:22 | < Reiver> | The value of my order is US$217 |
| 10:23 | < Reiver> | The value of that, in NZD, will be calculated *when it arrives on our shores*. |
| 10:23 | < Reiver> | The NZD is currently .81 USD, approx |
| 10:24 | < Reiver> | How bad does it have to get to ping me? |
| 10:24 | <~Vornicus> | Well, currently nz$300 is us$247 |
| 10:25 | <~Vornicus> | and it'd have to get down to 0.72 |
| 10:26 | <~Vornicus> | Last time it was there was the beginning of 2011 |
| 10:26 | <~Vornicus> | Actually if you want a properly professional opinion, we do know a forex trader |
| 10:26 | < Reiver> | SSssooo the odds of it falling that low are not too high by, uh, the end of the year then |
| 10:26 | < Reiver> | ... so we do |
| 10:27 | < Reiver> | Though I don't think he follows NZ |
| 10:27 | <~Vornicus> | He would however have resources which would help |
| 10:28 | < Reiver> | Truth |
| 10:28 | < Reiver> | Is he up? |
| 10:29 | <~Vornicus> | it's 6:30 PM there. |
| 10:30 | < Reiver> | Time to poke him then |
| 10:30 | < Reiver> | ... it's Bish, right?~ |
| 10:31 | <~Vornicus> | yes |
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| 19:00 | | * ErikMesoy navigates to C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Cryptic Studios\Neverwinter\Live\localdata to edit a prefs file, thinks the subfolders are getting a little out of hand. |
| 19:01 | <&ToxicFrog> | ln -s /c/Program\t/Steam/steamapps/common ~/Games/Steam |
| 19:02 | < ErikMesoy> | Sounds good. |
| 19:14 | | Derakon[AFK] is now known as Derakon |
| 19:25 | <@Alek> | got a variant for windoze? |
| 19:25 | < ErikMesoy> | "Create Shortcut". |
| 19:25 | < [R]> | Windows has had symlink-likes since XP. |
| 19:26 | < [R]> | (Possibly earlier, and no. I don't mean shortcuts) |
| 19:27 | < ErikMesoy> | apparently that's called "mklink" |
| 19:27 | < ErikMesoy> | Shortcut was good enough for me though |
| 19:31 | <@Alek> | mklink keeps saying the system cannot find the path specified. |
| 19:37 | < [R]> | Might not be able to make a directory infinitely recursive. |
| 19:50 | <@Alek> | oh, that's not what I was trying to do. not even close. |
| 20:01 | < simon_> | [R], those "mklinks", are they hardlinks or symlinks? |
| 20:02 | < simon_> | I've never heard about them. |
| 20:03 | < [R]> | They're called junctions IIRC. Windows got real symlinks later (seperate from junctions) |
| 20:04 | < simon_> | ah. those are what I found when digging. |
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| 20:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | "mklink" can make either symlinks or junction points. |
| 20:26 | <&ToxicFrog> | Junction points are basically mount --bind |
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| 21:49 | < Shiz> | and they all require admin rights |
| 21:49 | < Shiz> | wonderful |
| 21:51 | <@froztbyte> | of course they do |
| 21:51 | <@froztbyte> | you're making filesystem modifications~! |
| 21:52 | <&McMartin> | Well, "mount" requires root everywhere |
| 21:53 | <@froztbyte> | it does |
| 21:53 | <@froztbyte> | but these actions are more `ln -s` than mount |
| 21:53 | <@froztbyte> | (I don't recall if `ln -h` requires root under any conditions) |
| 21:54 | <&McMartin> | (The ones where it notionally would just fail 100% of the time, I think) |
| 21:54 | <@froztbyte> | teehee |
| 21:54 | <&McMartin> | Due to the way Windows access control works though you can't selectively require admin access |
| 21:54 | <@Tamber> | Hard links don't require root, other than the usual "You can't write to this dir" |
| 21:54 | <@froztbyte> | oh |
| 21:54 | <@froztbyte> | yes, I'm familiar with the windows model |
| 21:55 | <@froztbyte> | Tamber: I was more thinking "is there any filesystem or OS that's weird about it" |
| 21:55 | <@Tamber> | Ah, righto. |
| 21:55 | <@froztbyte> | offhand I can think of one or two filesystems which are a little .... "different" |
| 21:55 | <@froztbyte> | or specialcase uses |
| 21:55 | <@froztbyte> | but yeah |
| 21:55 | <@Tamber> | I suppose I should attach the caveat "on Linux, with ext*" to mine |
| 21:55 | <@froztbyte> | yeah |
| 21:55 | <@Tamber> | But the whole world is a Linux box on EXT* anyway~ |
| 21:55 | | * Tamber ducks and snickers. |
| 21:56 | | * froztbyte throws a vat of oil |
| 21:56 | <@froztbyte> | HEATHEN |
| 21:56 | <@Tamber> | :D |
| 21:56 | | * ErikMesoy throws a gilded icon |
| 21:56 | < ErikMesoy> | IDOLATER |
| 21:56 | <@Tamber> | Oh, okay. I suppose *some* of the Linux boxen might be using ZFS. |
| 21:56 | <@froztbyte> | rofl |
| 21:56 | <@froztbyte> | well, I'm happy that the whole world isn't on ext* |
| 21:56 | <@froztbyte> | that shit's bad for ya. |
| 21:57 | | * Tamber moves froztbyte over to an IRIX box on EFS. |
| 21:57 | <@froztbyte> | haha |
| 21:57 | <@froztbyte> | you don't scare me~! |
| 21:57 | | * froztbyte has read the ZFS structs overview. for *fun*. |
| 21:57 | <@Tamber> | Madness. |
| 21:58 | <@froztbyte> | just a bit. |
| 21:58 | <@froztbyte> | irunno |
| 21:58 | <@froztbyte> | I like datastructures |
| 21:58 | <@froztbyte> | and encodings and things |
| 21:58 | <@Tamber> | Like I said... :p |
| 21:58 | <@froztbyte> | this is also what I liked about working in radio tech for a while |
| 21:58 | <@Tamber> | :) |
| 21:58 | <@froztbyte> | the whole world is like this to me |
| 21:58 | <@froztbyte> | it's literally how I see it |
| 21:59 | <@Tamber> | Showers of green glyphs? |
| 21:59 | | * Tamber smack'd |
| 21:59 | <@froztbyte> | nah, I got the graphics upgrade |
| 21:59 | <@Tamber> | hehehe |
| 21:59 | <@froztbyte> | now it's just componentized dataflow |
| 22:00 | | * froztbyte gets some med-lemon, throws on a movie, calls it a night |
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| 22:24 | < RichyB> | froztbyte, zfs really is beautiful, don't you think? |
| 22:24 | < RichyB> | The comments:code ratio is very high and they're all useful. |
| 22:27 | <@froztbyte> | indeed |
| 22:27 | <@froztbyte> | it's less "lt's just build out this stuff we had before" and much more "let's solve something. forreal." |
| 22:27 | <@froztbyte> | which I admire |
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