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| 00:09 | <&ToxicFrog> | Reiv: no. And here python would also be pronounced "pie-thon", same phoneme as pyro- |
| 00:10 | <@Reiv> | ToxicFrog: So what phenome *do* you use for Python then |
| 00:10 | <@Reiv> | If it is not piethon and not paithon, it is...? |
| 00:11 | <&ToxicFrog> | "py". That's the best way I can express it in text. |
| 00:11 | <@Reiv> | But 'py' is pronounced 'pie' or 'pai' |
| 00:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | Except when it's not, yes. |
| 00:12 | <&ToxicFrog> | Like I said, according to symbol and Araleith this is a phoneme that does not normally exist in english. |
| 00:12 | <@Reiv> | Unless you mean the phenome from 'yacht'? |
| 00:13 | <@Reiv> | Then you need to describe the phenome using a bastardisation of other vowels~ |
| 00:14 | <@Reiv> | Or record yourself talking about the pyromaniac who sailed on a yach to copy a python who programmed in Python... |
| 00:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | "puy", maybe? Kinda? |
| 00:14 | <@Reiv> | puai? |
| 00:17 | <@gnolam> | Bring out the IPA! |
| 00:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | I don't know IPA. |
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| 02:30 | <@Tarinaky> | http://www.reddit.com/r/talesfromtechsupport/comments/1t7rqt/i_thought_there_wer e_too_many_wires_back_there_so/ |
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| 05:17 | <@Alek> | OO or LO? |
| 05:25 | <&McMartin> | Lava-Oriented Programming |
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| 05:51 | <@Alek> | Open-Office vs LibreOffice. |
| 05:51 | <@Alek> | I decided to go with Libre after all. |
| 06:23 | < Shiz> | latex |
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| 14:18 | <&ToxicFrog> | Alek: OpenOffice was discontinued in 2011, so there's no reason to use it. |
| 14:19 | < Syka> | ToxicFrog: er, what about apache openoffice? |
| 14:19 | < Syka> | i am fairly sure that's still being released |
| 14:19 | <@gnolam> | And LibreOffice actually has things like working SVG import. |
| 14:19 | <&ToxicFrog> | Oh, I thought you meant OO.o, I didn't know about AOO. |
| 14:19 | | * Tarinaky digs her heels in and declares that all shall be called 'Star Office'. |
| 14:19 | <@gnolam> | (It keeps OO's... interesting... approach to usability and settings, though) |
| 14:20 | < Syka> | libo doesnt use native file pickers |
| 14:20 | < Syka> | so it's ugly as sin on my gnome3 box |
| 14:20 | <@gnolam> | Ah, niche publications. |
| 14:20 | | * gnolam is sent the newsletter of the "European Coatings Journal". |
| 14:21 | < Syka> | speaking of, new libo in sid, hm |
| 14:21 | < Syka> | 4.1.4 |
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| 15:55 | < AnnoDomini> | Hmm. Can anyone recommend any devices that match this use case: http://pastie.org/8563514 ? |
| 15:56 | | * iospace looks |
| 15:56 | < AnnoDomini> | Well, a handheld device, that is. |
| 15:56 | <@iospace> | Any tablet ever~ |
| 15:56 | <@iospace> | :P |
| 15:57 | < AnnoDomini> | OK. That's good. Lots of room to choose. |
| 15:57 | < AnnoDomini> | Are you including an iPad in that category? |
| 15:59 | <@celticminstrel> | iPad would be included, yes. |
| 16:00 | < AnnoDomini> | Right. |
| 16:02 | < AnnoDomini> | The target user would be a middle-aged guy, who can comprehend tech when explained to him, but does not wish to spend overmuch time learning to do basic stuff. So I would say he would like something that allows him to do these things with a mostly unified interface and a bare minimum of overhead in terms of visiting 3rd party sites to get things done. |
| 16:03 | < AnnoDomini> | Any recommendations with that in mind? |
| 16:09 | <@celticminstrel> | I can't speak for others, but iOS default apps cover pretty much all of that... I'm not sure how dependent it is on computer-based iTunes now, though, nor am I sure how easy it is to get Project Gutenberg into iBooks (though I did manage it one time through iTunes). |
| 16:38 | <&ToxicFrog> | "ebooks, newspapers and magazines" is covered by Calibre, which can automatically download periodicals and sync them to your tablet/e-reader, although I don't think it can push over the network - you need to either pull from the tablet or plug it in and push over USB. |
| 16:38 | < Stalker> | If you download VLC for android, android tablets also does all that. |
| 16:38 | < Stalker> | It also does so if you don't download VLC for android, but VLC has superior format support. |
| 16:38 | < Stalker> | Like .avi files for example is for some reason not supported by android natively. |
| 16:51 | < RichyB> | Stalker, avi is just a container, any codec can be packaged with it. |
| 16:51 | < RichyB> | but usually MPEG-4 these days |
| 16:52 | < Stalker> | I'm not completely sure, but I'm fairly sure that Gallery managed to play MPG4 files before I installed VLC, but failed with avi files. So the container must be confusing Android. |
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| 17:22 | <&ToxicFrog> | Stalker: or they might be AVIs containing DivX or something. |
| 17:23 | < Stalker> | Might be. |
| 17:23 | < Stalker> | But it chokes on all avis ever. |
| 17:23 | < Stalker> | So then all my AVIs are DivX. |
| 17:23 | < Stalker> | ... or something. |
| 17:25 | < Stalker> | I don't know. |
| 17:25 | < Stalker> | I didn't check, I just downloaded VLC. |
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| 21:01 | <@Reiv> | AnnoDomini: The question arises, does he have a smartphone? If so, Apple or Android? |
| 21:01 | <@Reiv> | In terms of don't-waste-my-time, OS compatibility with existing hardware is far and away more significant than either camps features one way or the other. |
| 21:04 | < AnnoDomini> | He has an old smartphone. I'm not sure what kind. He thinks it's about time to replace it. But then, he's not exactly super-young. I don't doubt that he'd like a bigger screen to read stuff on. |
| 21:05 | <@Reiv> | A bigger screen would be handily done via an S3, or S4 / Nexus 5 if he's willing to spend a little extra. |
| 21:06 | <@Reiv> | Which would then place you in the realm of Android, at which point if you want to Do Things Properly, you probably want the Galaxy Tab or Nexus 10. (Or 7, but if he's older the extra screen space is probably preferable. And I don't recall that the 7 has a camera.) |
| 21:07 | <@Reiv> | That said, if he's running an apple... I guess you run apple, unless he's the sort happy to relearn UI. |
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