code logs -> 2013 -> Wed, 28 Aug 2013< code.20130827.log - code.20130829.log >
--- Log opened Wed Aug 28 00:00:22 2013
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02:14 * Reiv does some trivial algebra, hopes he got it right.
02:15
<@Reiv>
hypotenuse of a.
02:15
<@Reiv>
er. h.
02:15
<@Reiv>
stupid buttons.
02:15
<@Reiv>
h = sqrt(a^2 + b^2).
02:15
< [R]>
Uhh... h /is/ the hypotenuse.
02:15
< [R]>
Thus the hypotenuse of h is h.
02:15
<@Reiv>
a = sqrt(h^2 - b^2) yes/no?
02:16
< [R]>
Yes
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02:19
< [R]>
Have fun when b starts getting called o
02:19
<@Reiv>
Why would b get called o
02:19
< [R]>
... actually you're already mixing them.
02:20
<@Reiv>
They're, uh, just variable names.
02:20
< [R]>
Yes, but Pythorian's (sp?) theory is a^2 + b^2 = c^2
02:20
<@Reiv>
My algebra hasn't been used in a symbolic manner since high school. I'm defaulting to a and b and shit.
02:20
< [R]>
Trig uses a, o and h.
02:20
<@Reiv>
Oh, right.
02:20
< [R]>
Soh Cah Toa and all that.
02:20
<@Reiv>
I, being a programmer at heart, just picked useful sounding variable names~
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03:35
<@Reiv>
... Hypotenuse 1750, one side 1500; the third side is ~950. Is this correct?
03:36
<@Reiv>
hm, no. ~900m.
03:36
<@Reiv>
That's... pretty big.
04:01
<~Vornicus>
(there's a smallish pythagorean triple near there, 8-15-17)
04:01 * Reiv muses. Tries to do it in the other direction.
04:02
<@Reiv>
Huh. That's actually pretty good.
04:03
<@Reiv>
Hooray, I remember pythagorases theorim again!
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10:14 * jerith performs the best refactoring ever.
10:14
<&jerith>
I'm ripping out a bunch of code we no longer need and simplifying all the things that still call it.
10:15
<@TheWatcher>
\o/
10:16 * Syka is writing docstrings!
10:16
< Syka>
I might even write a test!
10:16
<@TheWatcher>
I say, steady on.
10:16
< Syka>
well, I would write a test
10:17
< Syka>
but I have decided that I am going to work on my book tonight
10:18
<&jerith>
Syka: Write all the tests!
10:19
<&jerith>
(Seriously, they will save you *lots* of time and pain later.)
10:20
< Syka>
jerith: well, I'm not sure right now
10:20
< Syka>
since this project is uh, pretty big
10:20
< Syka>
and we have five weeks to do it
10:20
< Syka>
(also, I'm only a contractor on it, and the contracting budget isn't that big~)
10:23
<&jerith>
Syka: If you don't write tests in week one you'll be paying for it for the next four weeks.
10:24
<&jerith>
Seriously. Tests are an even bigger win than VCS.
10:25
< Syka>
heh
10:25
< Syka>
speaking of
10:25
< Syka>
the project manager (I suppose? it's the two of us)
10:25
< Syka>
he's never used Git or Twisted
10:26
< Syka>
...also this is the first project he's actually used Linux for
10:26
< Syka>
so I am giving him one hell of a crash course, considering he's transitioning from VB.NET
10:27
<&jerith>
...
10:27
<&jerith>
Um.
10:28
<@froztbyte>
hey guys
10:28
<@froztbyte>
http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem /
10:28
<&jerith>
I suggest you stock up on potent pain medication.
10:28
<@froztbyte>
jerith: Syka's a masochist, this is making her very happ
10:28
<@froztbyte>
happy*
10:28
<@TheWatcher>
froztbyte: ...
10:28
<@TheWatcher>
oh gods
10:29
<@froztbyte>
:D :D :D
10:29
< Syka>
jerith: well
10:29
< Syka>
jerith: he's doing pretty good so far!
10:29
< Syka>
he understands git branching, still working out some push/pull niggles
10:30
< Syka>
I haven't introduced him to Twisted yet, but I'm mostly going to go "give me the python logic, I'll make it do it"
10:30
<@froztbyte>
http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem /cbwsbf7
10:30
<@froztbyte>
looooooooooooooooooooooool
10:30
<@froztbyte>
"bitchesandbling"linux
10:30
<~Vornicus>
;_; ;_; ;_;
10:32
<@froztbyte>
"So I've gotten mostly answers for checking ; rm -rf / and things like that, so I've edited my code around to do that, but the main problem still stands."
10:32
<@froztbyte>
ahahahahahahaha
10:32
< Syka>
this is delicious
10:32
< Syka>
this can't be real
10:32
< Syka>
this has to be a poe
10:35
<@TheWatcher>
I'd have pegged it as Epic Troll, except that I've seen enough monumentally stupid code....
10:51
<@froztbyte>
Syka: poe?
10:52
<~Vornicus>
Poe's Law: Sufficiently Advanced Parody Is Indistinguishable From The Real Thing
10:52
< Syka>
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Poe%27s_Law
10:52
< Syka>
or "Any sufficiently advanced troll is indistinguishable from a genuine kook"
10:55
<@froztbyte>
orite
10:55
<&jerith>
It basically boils down to "no matter how extreme and over the top the parody is, there are almost certainly people who are actuall like that".
10:57
< Syka>
froztbyte: basically, think of me
10:57
< Syka>
now, anyone else that acts as insane as I do is a troll
10:57
<@froztbyte>
Syka: incorrect
10:57
<@froztbyte>
Syka: you (mostly) learn
10:57
< Syka>
haha
11:01
< RichyB>
Ooh, apparently there's OpenMP support for Clang now.
11:01
< RichyB>
http://clang-omp.github.io/
11:05
<@froztbyte>
....I was going "oh, that's cool" up until the Fortran/C++ part
11:15
< RichyB>
"The Fortran/C++ part"?
11:15
< RichyB>
Oh yes.
11:16
< RichyB>
OpenMP is a fork/join parallelism runtime that comes with a Fortran language extension, a C language extension and a C++ language extension. :)
11:17
< RichyB>
Well, really it's a standard for those three language extensions.
11:17
< RichyB>
Individual OpenMP implementations are run-times that come with some subset of those three.
11:18
< RichyB>
But yeah it's sweet as Hell. You just write "#pragma omp parallel for" around a for loop and it gets spun out to as many CPUs as you have. :3
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13:37
<@Pandemic>
smap intake has incrased.....
13:37
<@Pandemic>
spam*
13:38
<@Pandemic>
any one else noticed a flood of spam recently?
13:39
<@Tamber>
No more than usual.
13:41
<@Pandemic>
time to take a look at the spam filter. Only smart hosts can connect via SMTP so I know that isn't an issue. IMAPI service is off line. So no new holes in defences
13:41
<@Pandemic>
nothing new here... https://isc.sans.edu/
13:43
< Syka>
ISC hasnt been yellow for like a year
13:48
<@Pandemic>
yeah. time t harden the spam filter...
13:51
<@Pandemic>
still catching 70% of all inbound mail...
13:51
<@Pandemic>
make that 78%
13:54
< Syka>
haha
13:54
< Syka>
back at old work, i was very nearly prepared to shitcan all email from 10pm to 5am
13:55
<@Pandemic>
I've come this close || to blacklisting .cn
13:55
<@Pandemic>
nothing ever good comes from .cn
13:57
< Syka>
or yahoo
13:58
<@Pandemic>
we have a few people who's children use yahoo (collaged or new career aged children) They would revolt sadly. Already tried that...
13:58
<@Pandemic>
oh well, spam filter tweaked
13:59
<@Pandemic>
lets see if that has any positive noticeable effect.
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18:54
< Syka>
so, i have succeeded in apparently installing every single package onto my laptop using the debian installer
18:57
< RichyB>
uh
18:57
< Syka>
it is currently installing mono
18:58
< RichyB>
That sounds like a neat trick. I'm pretty certain that some of the packages in Debian's repos conflict with some other packages. :D
18:58
< Syka>
and before, python-numpy, exim4, and apache
18:58
< Syka>
it has so far been running for two and a half hours
18:58
< RichyB>
You're installing a desktop? Yes, you're going to end up with the support libraries for every programming language that anyone has ever tried using.
18:58
< Syka>
oh one hour
18:58
< Syka>
RichyB: :<
18:58
< RichyB>
"Oh, let's write an image viewer in C# this week."
18:58
< Syka>
heh
18:58
< Syka>
okay seriously
18:58
< Syka>
next time
18:59
< Syka>
i am not installing the 'standard desktop'
18:59
< Syka>
that shit be craycray
18:59
< RichyB>
I think it's kind of understandable that it ends up that way though
18:59
< Syka>
i dont know why i need apache though
18:59
< RichyB>
when they're volunteering, people are going to work in whatever crazyass dev environment it is that they *like* to use, not whatever necessarily makes most sense for keeping the overall system dependency graph down.
18:59
< Syka>
...ugh okay
19:00
< Syka>
i bet that i didnt do the 'configure root' step
19:00
< Syka>
fffffffuck everything
19:02
< RichyB>
I don't think we have enough time in our lives
19:02
< RichyB>
worth trying though if we can find enough contraceptives.
19:03
< Syka>
if this computer screws me around any more, it will have a very short life
19:09
< [R]>
http://www.reddit.com/r/PHP/comments/1l7baq/creating_a_user_from_the_web_problem /
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19:15 * Syka watches this go from stable -> unstable
19:15
< Syka>
15 minutes of package downloadin, hell yeah
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20:47
<&jerith>
EXTERMINATE! is a game best played with capslock on.
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22:27
< [R]>
Oh, legitimate question I'm actually curious about: why can't you unmount external hard-drives from "Computer", but you can pen-drives?
22:29
< Syka>
[R]: because windows doesnt know its an external drive
22:29
< Syka>
since the USB cable is USB -> SATA
22:29
< Syka>
(the ext HDDs are regular 2.5" or 3.5" HDDs with a dinky little SATA converter)
22:30
< [R]>
But it comes up in the menu for removable drives.
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22:30
< Syka>
that's not the drive, that's the USB->SATA converter
22:30
< Syka>
rather than the drive itself
22:32
< Syka>
[R]: since the converter presents itself as the 'drive'
22:32
< Syka>
but if you pull out the drive, you'll notice that it'll be like, a WD Green
22:32
< Syka>
(which it doesn't present itself as)
22:33
< [R]>
Yeah, I know how those converters work
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