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| 00:39 | <&McMartin> | # Ze hacks! Zey are useful and delicious! |
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| 00:39 | <&McMartin> | This is going to be a bad day |
| 00:39 | < Azash> | Haha |
| 00:40 | < Azash> | This day has taken a confusing turn |
| 00:40 | < Azash> | I was just endorsed for Python on linkedin |
| 00:40 | < Azash> | Things to consider: |
| 00:40 | <@Tamber> | o.o |
| 00:40 | < Azash> | -I have not spoken with this person in years |
| 00:40 | < Azash> | -I don't have Python listed anywhere |
| 00:40 | < Azash> | -I am coming up with any excuse I can to not even touch the language |
| 00:41 | <&McMartin> | What languages/problem domains do you usually work in? |
| 00:41 | < Azash> | So he basically, uh, guessed that I know Python somehow, then manually looked it up and endorsed me for it |
| 00:41 | < Azash> | McMartin: Varies, still in BSc |
| 00:41 | < Azash> | I usually do Java or C |
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| 01:03 | < Mango> | Anyone know what versions of Internet Explorer selectionStart and selectionEnd work in? |
| 01:04 | < Mango> | Found it. 9 and up. |
| 01:04 | <@Tamber> | Oh, I was going to guess "None of them" |
| 01:04 | <&McMartin> | Cool. Where'd you find it? |
| 01:04 | < Mango> | http://help.dottoro.com/ljtfkhio.php |
| 01:05 | <&McMartin> | Tamber: IE9+ are pretty good about standards compliance |
| 01:05 | < Mango> | I discovered this when my old IE8-compatible code didn't work properly in IE9. |
| 01:05 | < Mango> | (I mean IE10.) |
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| 03:49 | <&McMartin> | Heh, OK, that's funny |
| 03:49 | <&McMartin> | There was an airing a few weekends ago of Castle in the Sky in Japan |
| 03:50 | <&McMartin> | Which has a bit that the fans have made audience participation, where everyone says a magic word at the same time as the characters do |
| 03:50 | <&McMartin> | At that moment, Twitter hit 143,199 tweets in one second, a new record |
| 03:50 | <&McMartin> | Sparking a a big tech post on how they do scaling |
| 03:50 | <&McMartin> | https://blog.twitter.com/2013/new-tweets-per-second-record-and-how |
| 03:59 | < RichyB> | Is it just me or does Studio Ghibli have a really consistent "look"? |
| 04:00 | < RichyB> | I'd seen that blog post before and it's fucking impressive. |
| 04:00 | < RichyB> | Thanks for providing the context as to what the heck they meant about the Castle in the Sky, McMartin. :) |
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| 04:05 | <&McMartin> | RichyB: Here's a reverse link |
| 04:05 | <&McMartin> | Support logs failed to save on your USB drive. |
| 04:05 | <&McMartin> | Please make sure it's correctly connected and try again. |
| 04:05 | <&McMartin> | Oops |
| 04:06 | <&McMartin> | http://qz.com/116613/the-movie-that-set-a-new-record-for-number-of-tweets-and-no -its-not-sharknado/ |
| 04:06 | <&McMartin> | There we go |
| 04:07 | < RichyB> | Man, fuck twitter. |
| 04:07 | < RichyB> | We should see about commandeering a bunch more television networks worldwide to do a planetary synchronised screening, see how they cope with _that_. |
| 04:11 | <&McMartin> | I wonder how much more effective that would be than just commandeering them all in Japan. |
| 04:13 | < RichyB> | Maybe not at all if it helps them to geographically partition the workload. |
| 04:13 | < RichyB> | OTOH maybe they were already sending those ~140k messages to nodes all over the place anyway. |
| 04:17 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, I imagine that if there's a seven second delay in getting 140k tweets from Japan to Tangiers nobody's going to be much the wiser. |
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| 09:13 | < AnnoDomini> | Anyone know how to change the default way screenshots work in Gnome 3 (Debian)? I want to make the active window screenshot default, instead of the entire screen. |
| 09:17 | < Syka> | uh |
| 09:17 | < Syka> | AnnoDomini: I don't think you can do that? |
| 09:18 | < Syka> | AnnoDomini: press alt-printscreen instead |
| 09:18 | < Syka> | that captures the current window |
| 09:18 | < Syka> | shift-printscreen will let you select an area |
| 09:19 | < Syka> | i think control-printscreen copies the entire screen to your clipboard |
| 09:19 | < AnnoDomini> | I'm doing that. This interferes with the application I'm screenshotting. |
| 09:20 | < Syka> | oh |
| 09:20 | < Syka> | they added it now |
| 09:20 | < Syka> | AnnoDomini: okay |
| 09:20 | < Syka> | keyboard settings |
| 09:20 | < Syka> | shortcuts > screenshots |
| 09:20 | < AnnoDomini> | Where are shortcuts? |
| 09:20 | < Syka> | it's a tab |
| 09:21 | < AnnoDomini> | A tab where? |
| 09:21 | < Syka> | in Keyboard settings |
| 09:21 | < Syka> | if you type 'Keyboard' into gnome3 search you should see it |
| 09:21 | < Syka> | AnnoDomini: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14290114/Screenshot%20from%202013-08-21%2016 %3A19%3A59.png |
| 09:23 | < AnnoDomini> | OK. Thank you! |
| 09:23 | < Syka> | no probs |
| 09:23 | < Syka> | i'm on 3.8 though, so wether that exists at all below that, I'm not sure |
| 09:23 | < Syka> | :P |
| 09:24 | < AnnoDomini> | I'm using Gnome Classic. So it was Applications -> System Tools -> Preferences -> System Settings -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts. |
| 09:25 | < Syka> | ah |
| 09:25 | < Syka> | oh, you could get to it through system settings too, yeah |
| 09:26 | < Syka> | i don't use that way because some things aren't there |
| 09:26 | < Syka> | eg, system-config-printer or gnome-power-statistics |
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| 13:14 | <~Vornicus> | ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOPIG |
| 13:14 | < Syka> | haha |
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| 15:40 | <@froztbyte> | so |
| 15:40 | <@Tamber> | la |
| 15:40 | <@froztbyte> | today I loadtested a server so hard it refused to serve more clients |
| 15:40 | <@froztbyte> | not "timed out" |
| 15:40 | <@froztbyte> | it actually refused |
| 15:41 | <@froztbyte> | Received 168 new bytes of response data. |
| 15:41 | <@froztbyte> | Received a complete DESCRIBE response: |
| 15:41 | <@froztbyte> | RTSP/1.0 453 Not Enough Bandwidth |
| 15:41 | <@froztbyte> | Server: DSS/6.0.3 (Build/526.3; Platform/Linux; Release/Darwin Streaming Server; State/Development; ) |
| 15:41 | <@froztbyte> | Cseq: 3 |
| 15:41 | <@froztbyte> | Connection: Close |
| 15:41 | <@Tamber> | ...hee |
| 15:41 | <@froztbyte> | it makes me so happy to break things |
| 15:44 | <&ToxicFrog> | Nice |
| 15:46 | <@froztbyte> | even the developer of the overall platform was going "....I've never seen these messages before" |
| 15:46 | <@froztbyte> | which I think counts as success |
| 15:47 | <@gnolam> | :) |
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| 16:29 | | * TheWatcher eyes this |
| 16:30 | <@TheWatcher> | php is compiled with ldap and ssl, openssl and openldap are installed, yet ldap_connect("ldaps://server.foo") fails, while ldap_connect("ldap://server.foo") works... even though the ldaps should work |
| 16:31 | <@Tamber> | You're expecting consistency and sanity from PHP? |
| 16:31 | <@TheWatcher> | And, of course, the "error" messages php produces are utterly useless |
| 16:31 | <@Tamber> | Well, of course. |
| 16:32 | <@TheWatcher> | hrm |
| 16:32 | | * TheWatcher wonders if it could be a cert problem |
| 16:33 | < ktemkin> | What's ldap_error returning? |
| 16:33 | < ErikMesoy> | Funny thing is, when you tell me the error messages are useless, I wonder what sort of useless. Are they gibberish, are they content-free, are they complaining about a surface problem, or are they concerning the wrong section? |
| 16:34 | < Syka> | E_YOURE_USING_PHP |
| 16:34 | < Xon> | ^^ |
| 16:34 | < ktemkin> | Unfortunately, the core devs seemed to decide that should be a notice, and not a fatal error. |
| 16:34 | < Xon> | TheWatcher, you have verified that the target ldaps port is open right? |
| 16:34 | <@TheWatcher> | yep, works fine from other machines. |
| 16:35 | < Xon> | I'ld blame php then |
| 16:35 | < Xon> | TheWatcher, http://serverfault.com/questions/296396/binding-to-ldap-using-ssl-keeps-failing- windows-server-2008 |
| 16:36 | <@TheWatcher> | ktemkin: "ldap_search(): Search: Can't contact LDAP server in..." |
| 16:36 | < Xon> | the first answer looks like it has hints on getting a standard tool to behave like php's connection crap |
| 16:37 | < Xon> | TheWatcher, tried the IP rather than hostname incase the hostname resolution is going retarded? |
| 16:38 | < Xon> | http://php.net/manual/en/function.ldap-connect.php |
| 16:38 | < Xon> | rofl |
| 16:38 | < Xon> | > It bears repeating (and the examples should probably be updated) that ldap_connect() doesn't actually test the connection to the specified ldap server. This is important if you're trying to build failover into your ldap-based authentication routine. |
| 16:38 | < Xon> | > The only way to test the connection is to actually call ldap_bind( $ds, $username, $password ). But if that fails, is it because you have the wrong username/password or is it because the connection is down? As far as I can see there isn't any way to tell. |
| 16:38 | <@TheWatcher> | yep |
| 16:38 | < Xon> | that is the insanity I expect from php |
| 16:39 | < Xon> | does php have read permisions to the CA file? (and potentially not write permisions) |
| 16:39 | < Xon> | (or whatever is hosting php) |
| 16:40 | <@TheWatcher> | Ah, there we go |
| 16:40 | < Xon> | cos apparently it throws can not connect errors if it can't access the CA file O_o |
| 16:40 | <@TheWatcher> | "Error, self signed vertificate in certificate challenge" |
| 16:41 | < Xon> | so what did it take to get the actual error msg out of it? |
| 16:41 | <@TheWatcher> | why the idiots are using a self-signed cert when we have a wildcard, I have no idea |
| 16:41 | <@Tamber> | Just to be difficult. |
| 16:41 | <@Tamber> | (The place is run by Mordak) |
| 16:43 | < Syka> | yaaaaay |
| 16:43 | < Syka> | so i had a pandoc plugin for ST3 |
| 16:43 | < Syka> | it updated |
| 16:43 | < Syka> | "Regressions in last version that went unnoticed till I installed a fresh ST3 should be corrected." |
| 16:43 | < Syka> | guess what doesn't work in a fresh ST3 now? |
| 16:44 | <@Tamber> | Anything? |
| 16:44 | < Syka> | well, everything but this plugin |
| 16:47 | <@TheWatcher> | There, fixed - just add TLS_REQCERT never to the ldap.conf. Not ideal, but ffs. |
| 16:48 | <@froztbyte> | <TheWatcher> php is compiled with ldap and ssl, openssl and openldap are installed, yet ldap_connect("ldaps://server.foo") fails, while ldap_connect("ldap://server.foo") works... even though the ldaps should work |
| 16:48 | <@froztbyte> | I was gonna suggest force-adding the port |
| 16:48 | <@froztbyte> | but I guess you just solved it |
| 16:48 | <@froztbyte> | \o/ php |
| 16:50 | < Syka> | php in australian is 'pissingly hard programming' |
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| 17:55 | < AnnoDomini> | Is it possible to set up one-key active-window-screenshot on WinXP? |
| 17:55 | < AnnoDomini> | With saving to disk. |
| 17:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | I think alt+prscn will copy the current window to the clipboard without saving, but that may not count as "single key"? |
| 17:59 | <&ToxicFrog> | irfanview has a screenshot mode that I think you can bind to arbitrary keys, although I don't know if you can get it to screenshot without saving |
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| 18:16 | < AnnoDomini> | I especially do not want it to be *Alt*-something. |
| 18:19 | < AnnoDomini> | Irfanview's thingy appears to hate one-key triggers. |
| 18:21 | <&ToxicFrog> | Greenshot? |
| 18:22 | <&ToxicFrog> | I've never used it but it's commonly cited as best-of-breed for taking screenshots on windows. |
| 18:24 | < AnnoDomini> | I will try it. |
| 18:27 | < AnnoDomini> | Whoo! This works! |
| 18:28 | | * AnnoDomini can now proceed with his LP of TOKOL on both OSes. |
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| 18:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | TOKOL? |
| 18:58 | <&ToxicFrog> | Also, how does taking a screenshot without saving it help you? |
| 19:00 | < AnnoDomini> | Tactics Ogre: The Knight of Lodis. |
| 19:00 | < AnnoDomini> | I did say *with* saving to disk. |
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| 20:08 | < ErikMesoy> | Suppse you wander into a small subforum for a non-commercial micro-RPG (think RPG Maker) where the original creator has vanished without a trace, but the community has kept the project alive with mods and patches since then. |
| 20:08 | < ErikMesoy> | You're registered on the forum this year, the creator vanished several years ago, and you claim to have received rights to the project from the original creator, and demand that everyone should check with you before doing anything more. You provide neither evidence for this claim, not contributions of your own. |
| 20:08 | < ErikMesoy> | Approximately what level of vitriol should you expect? |
| 20:09 | | * ErikMesoy is trying to fine-tune a flame he's composing. |
| 20:09 | < ErikMesoy> | *Suppose you wander into. *nor contributions of your own. Bah, spelling. |
| 20:09 | <@Namegduf> | I would personally go for the one-word "Nah." |
| 20:09 | <@Namegduf> | It indicates that I don't even think they're worth explaining my reasoning to. |
| 20:10 | < ErikMesoy> | With or without quoting them? |
| 20:10 | <@Namegduf> | Hmm, either could be good. Without is snappier but with is clearer. |
| 20:15 | <@iospace> | ugh |
| 20:15 | <@iospace> | epic derp at work Dx |
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| 23:25 | <&McMartin> | Oh hey |
| 23:25 | <&McMartin> | A co-worker just sent me a couple of "Scala for Haskell programmers" things |
| 23:25 | <&McMartin> | Let's see if they're any good |
| 23:25 | <&McMartin> | I guess "in a few hours when I have time to kill" |
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| 23:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | I spent the entire day in a Haskell class and I think I'm finally starting to get Monads |
| 23:53 | <&ToxicFrog> | Starting with "you can't 'get Monads', because they only thing they have in common is some implementation of >>= and return" |
| 23:55 | <&McMartin> | Heh |
| 23:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | But I have now successfully used State, Reader, Writer, and Exception. |
| 23:56 | <&ToxicFrog> | OTOH the lecture on Parsec was kind of disappointing. |
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