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| 02:22 | <&McMartin> | Oof, this design isn't working |
| 02:22 | <&McMartin> | Going to have to break it down and try again. |
| 02:30 | | * Alek blinks. |
| 02:30 | <@Alek> | this is quite the story. |
| 02:30 | <@Alek> | so, I'm deaf. |
| 02:30 | <@Alek> | with my implant, I can hear. but the implant is on the left ear. |
| 02:31 | <@Alek> | most game audio is stereo these days. |
| 02:31 | <@Alek> | I can plug an audio cable directly from the jack to my speech processor. |
| 02:31 | <@Alek> | only, most of the time, it only takes a single channel. mono. |
| 02:32 | <@Alek> | and that definitely affects how I hear in the game. some games, I can only hear when I'm looking directly at the source. others, it's quieter if I'm looking elsewhere. |
| 02:32 | <@Alek> | what I just realized, however, is that it's the LEFT channel I generally get. just noticed it in HL2. |
| 02:32 | <@Alek> | coincidence? >_> |
| 02:33 | <@Alek> | oh, and there's the games that put audio on one channel and sfx on another. but I'd rather ignore those. |
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| 02:43 | < Vornlicious> | Semi coincidence. |
| 02:44 | < Vornlicious> | When the stereo jack format was standardized they picked the left ear - dominant in most people - as the one that's back compatible for mono. |
| 02:44 | < Vornlicious> | You're right-handed, right, alek? |
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| 03:15 | <@Alek> | well, basically. |
| 03:16 | <@Alek> | :p |
| 03:17 | <@Alek> | my two ears have very different reasons for the deafness. the handedness has nothing to do with it. I think. |
| 03:21 | < Vornlicious> | Heh. Then that's the coincidence. |
| 03:23 | < Turaiel> | Alek, have you tried using software to adjust your computer's output balance to left only? |
| 03:26 | < Vornlicious> | Randomly I wish mp3 players had a "headphones sharing" setting, which tosses mixed mono to both speakers. |
| 03:27 | < Vornlicious> | Also you need a proper panning thing; straight balance simply adjusts levels. |
| 03:28 | < Turaiel> | iOS does that, Vornlicious :P |
| 03:28 | < Turaiel> | Though it's a universal access feature |
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| 04:10 | <@Alek> | Tura: how? >_> |
| 04:10 | <@Alek> | also, that would be awesome, vorn. |
| 04:11 | <@Alek> | win7 btw. |
| 04:11 | <@Alek> | also 8 |
| 04:12 | < ktemkin> | Eith you'd need a driver and/or hardware that supports it, or you can install a software mixer, like JACK. |
| 04:14 | <@Alek> | on-board Nvidia High Definition Audio. |
| 04:14 | <@Alek> | so I suspect a software mixer will be it. >_> |
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| 04:16 | < ktemkin> | You can also buy an external AMP that can mix the two channels. |
| 04:17 | < ktemkin> | *amp |
| 04:17 | < ktemkin> | I dunno how that wound up capitalized. |
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| 04:32 | <@Alek> | yeah, I'd rather not, but thanks. |
| 04:44 | <&McMartin> | Alek: I have a (non-nVidia) onboad audio chip and it shipped with this mixer app that looks like a nuclear submarine control panel |
| 04:45 | <&McMartin> | Check to see if there's some kind of nVidia audio settings/mixer app floating around on your system. |
| 04:46 | <@Alek> | given I put together the box myself, no. |
| 04:47 | <@Alek> | sound settings do have some enhancements I'm taking a look at, though. |
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| 04:52 | | * Alek finds an application, with a little research. |
| 04:52 | <@Alek> | Virtual Audio Cable. |
| 04:52 | <@Alek> | problem is, it's a pay app. |
| 04:52 | <@Alek> | there's a trial, but it delivers an audible nag every few seconds. |
| 04:52 | <@Alek> | o_o |
| 04:52 | | * Alek keeps looking. |
| 04:54 | <&McMartin> | Aiya |
| 04:54 | <&McMartin> | No, I didn't mean "floating around on the Internet" though |
| 04:55 | <&McMartin> | I meant "like with the stuff that shipped with it as part of the basic drivers and control software" |
| 04:55 | <@Alek> | nope, there wasn't. |
| 04:55 | <&McMartin> | Bleh. |
| 04:55 | <&McMartin> | Oh well |
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| 05:14 | | * Alek eyetwitches at VAC. |
| 05:14 | <@Alek> | trying it out. |
| 05:14 | <@Alek> | I set it up how I'm told. |
| 05:15 | <@Alek> | but when I try to redirect it to mono, "no appropriate pin found"... |
| 05:15 | <@Alek> | redirect to stereo works fine, though. |
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| 05:27 | | * Alek attempts jack instead. |
| 05:27 | | * Alek is muchly confused. |
| 05:28 | <@Alek> | what's MME? |
| 05:28 | <@Alek> | according to jackd, I have several MME audio devices and several DirectAudio audio devices. |
| 05:42 | | * Alek blarghs |
| 05:42 | <@Alek> | looks like Jack is just a redirection tool. |
| 05:42 | <@Alek> | and at least one other, unknown, utility is needed for the actual stereo-mono mixing. |
| 05:42 | <@Alek> | not that I can get jack itself to work anyway. |
| 05:48 | < Turaiel> | Which OS are you using? |
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| --- Log opened Mon Jul 29 06:49:15 2013 |
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| 07:10 | <@Alek> | tura: w7 |
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| 07:36 | <@Alek> | welp |
| 07:36 | <@Alek> | something. |
| 07:37 | <@Alek> | I managed to plug in to the headphone port (it's iffy, which is why I was using speaker port originally) |
| 07:37 | <@Alek> | and enabled headphone virtualization in its properties, something my research popped up. |
| 07:37 | <@Alek> | seems to work... |
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| 16:22 | <@iospace> | dear co-worker: Yes I know I could just build this object myself, but when you've already built it, why is it such a problem to share the built file? |
| 16:23 | <@iospace> | oh, and now it's conviently lost! -_______- |
| 16:41 | <@TheWatcher> | Obviously it'll be in the version control system, or backups, though. Right? ¬¬ |
| 16:42 | <&ToxicFrog> | It's a build artefact, I wouldn't expect it to be in either. |
| 16:47 | <@TheWatcher> | Point |
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| 17:46 | < Xon> | <TheWatcher> Obviously it'll be in the version control system, or backups, though. Right? ¬¬ |
| 17:46 | < Xon> | I fucking hate SVN. the merge algo is sometimes loses data =( |
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| 18:45 | < [R]> | More reasons to never use SVN then. |
| 19:59 | <&McMartin> | ...svn's merge algo is literally patch(1), so if you have an example of this it will be of wide interest. |
| 20:02 | <&McMartin> | Unless you mean merging branches, in which case "which version" is important. (IIRC, branch metadata didn't work right until 1.6) |
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