--- Log opened Sat Jun 29 00:00:20 2013 |
00:01 | < RichyB> | Hrmn, I think that the (smaller, 10k square) test PNGs that I have been spitting out actually have incorrect ADLER32 checksums in the zlib-format stream. |
00:01 | < RichyB> | I note this because ImageMagick and Eye of Gnome (which I think is powered by libpng) appear not to care or notice! |
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05:01 | | * Vornicus pokes at C++. |
05:05 | <~Vornicus> | I have an iterator into a std::map; I wish to delete the item at the cursor and move to the next. |
05:08 | <~Vornicus> | ah, erase. I think. |
05:08 | < [R]> | http://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/container/map/erase |
05:09 | <~Vornicus> | yeah, seeing this. That invalidates the iterator I use; so erasing has to happen on a copy of the iterator. |
05:10 | < [R]> | Use the last version? |
05:11 | <~Vornicus> | Actually i suspect the interval version is the one I want. |
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05:16 | <~Vornicus> | oh man and it even has the good complexity |
05:16 | <@Alek> | ? |
05:17 | <&McMartin> | While find on a red-black tree is O(lg n), iterating through it in sequence given a start point is O(n). |
05:18 | <~Vornicus> | Alek: I'm doing crazy things with C++'s std::map, specifically using the interval form of erase; I had thought that you were stuck with O(k log(n)) time, were k is the number of things to remove. |
05:18 | <~Vornicus> | It's actually O(k + log(n)) |
05:18 | <&McMartin> | But next and prev are amortized constant time. |
05:18 | | * McMartin is totally implementing these assholes in C right now. |
05:18 | | * McMartin does *not* have this shit swapped in, and indeed if he ever know it before last week forgot it like 15 years ago. |
05:19 | < RichyB> | Unless you have "prev" and "next" pointers in the leaves like a btree does, I think that it's impossible for next() and prev() to be constant time. |
05:19 | <&McMartin> | RichyB: *amortized* constant. |
05:19 | <&McMartin> | If you do an inorder traversal you hit each edge exactly twice. |
05:19 | <&McMartin> | Linear number of edges. |
05:19 | <&McMartin> | Any *given* next may be up to O(log N), but you get "paid back" in subsequent ones. |
05:20 | <~Vornicus> | (I knew that removing a single item caused O(log(n)) rebalancing operations; I didn't think they'd come up with a way to remove many items without doing a rebalance every time, but apparently htey have.) |
05:20 | < RichyB> | I understand amortisation, but I was counting the wrong thing. |
05:20 | < RichyB> | Is the number of internal branch->branch edges actually linear? I thought it was n*log(n) |
05:21 | <&McMartin> | There are n-1 edges. |
05:21 | <&McMartin> | Because every node but the root has exactly one "parent" link. |
05:21 | < RichyB> | You are right. Objection withdrawn. |
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05:21 | <&McMartin> | Vorn: I don't have that algorithm handy, but I suspect there's some way to batch-rebalance after an interval deletion. |
05:21 | < RichyB> | Evidently you have more of this swapped in than you think. ;) |
05:22 | <~Vornicus> | McM: yeah, it's baked into the library. I don't need to write it. |
05:22 | <&McMartin> | RichyB: I've been studying the relevant chapters in CLR for the past week. |
05:22 | | * Vornicus deletes wholesale his two-sort skip list code. |
05:22 | <&McMartin> | Two weeks ago, if I ever knew it, it was 15 years ago. |
05:22 | < RichyB> | btw, try splay trees. |
05:22 | <&McMartin> | I'd rather not~ |
05:23 | < RichyB> | They're really cool. IIRC *every* operation has amortised rather than real-time bounds. |
05:23 | <&McMartin> | The two forms I have actual analysis/pseudocode for with decent treatments thereof handy are R-B and 2-3. |
05:23 | | * Vornicus deletes a full third of his codebase. |
05:23 | < RichyB> | Well, okay, don't write an implementation, all trees are tricky. |
05:23 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, IIRC splay trees do the rotations on lookup operations. |
05:24 | < RichyB> | IIRC there's a nice splay-tree implementation in the FreeBSD source code somewhere |
05:24 | | * Vornicus does a stupid dance. |
05:24 | | * Vornicus writes Yet Another Goddamn typedef map...; |
05:24 | <&McMartin> | Yeah, this is all ultimately bounded by "man, getting C++ to link cleanly against *anything else* is a pain in the ass, maybe I can write some decently reliable and non-license-encumbered code for this |
05:25 | < RichyB> | http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=tree&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBS D+9.1-RELEASE&arch=default&format=html |
05:25 | < RichyB> | You might want to look at the FreeBSD code, then. |
05:25 | < RichyB> | It's all C, BSD-licensed. I believe that there are no non-trivial BSDisms in those tree headers. |
05:26 | < RichyB> | That particular pile of code is probably 2-clause or 3-clause BSD license, so you won't have to worry about the old GPL-compat headache. |
05:29 | < RichyB> | (When in doubt, strip-mine FreeBSD. ^_^) |
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05:34 | <&McMartin> | This is uglier than I'd like, tbh~ |
05:34 | <&McMartin> | But it'll be good as a template. |
05:45 | <&McMartin> | Well, actually, "template" is the problem~ |
05:45 | | * McMartin is going for Uniform Reference style, this is Template Instantiation Style. |
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06:04 | <~Vornicus> | okay. Planet coordinate generation takes an element from the general coordinates map and multiplies each coordinate therein by the planet's value. Then I need to generate the loadout descriptor. |
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07:20 | | * McMartin wraps up a draft clean-room reimplementation of red-black trees. |
07:21 | <&McMartin> | Time to start doing black-box comparisons against the FreeBSD version. |
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07:46 | | * Vornicus gneegs |
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08:45 | <&McMartin> | Insertion looks good, deletion looks hilarious |
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08:57 | <&McMartin> | Aaaand, making progress on that one nicely |
09:33 | <&McMartin> | OK, things are looking up! |
09:33 | <&McMartin> | Except there are two cases I haven't actually exercised with this yet >_< |
10:05 | <&McMartin> | And, that's that! |
10:06 | | * McMartin feeds it random input until those cases come up, checks those results against the FreeBSD reference, comes up roses |
10:07 | <~Vornicus> | Hooray |
10:07 | <&McMartin> | I should probably also put in internal consistency checks; I had some stale pointers that didn't cause any problems until I tried to do internal rotations and rendered half the data in the tree unreachable~ |
10:07 | <&McMartin> | That got fixed, at least~ |
10:08 | <~Vornicus> | *snrk* |
10:15 | <&McMartin> | Anyway, yes. There are 6 basic code paths for inserting a node into an R-B tree and 8 for deleting. I marked the blocks and then started randomly generating trees until I confirmed that all cases were being hit. |
10:16 | <~Vornicus> | Nice. |
10:16 | <~Vornicus> | mmmm, three-index-deep map assignment. |
10:16 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
10:17 | <~Vornicus> | Now to write the code that dumps the results of that, to see if I've got it right. |
10:19 | <~Vornicus> | ...but first, I create cucumber sauce. |
10:19 | <&McMartin> | Heh |
10:20 | <&McMartin> | I had one of those coming up |
10:20 | <&McMartin> | And then I realized that they were integer indices of ranges known at compile time and all roughly equally likely |
10:20 | <&McMartin> | Which is to say, they were a chain of C arrays. |
10:20 | <&McMartin> | At which point I started to seriously question why I was using C++ again |
10:21 | <~Vornicus> | I'm using maps all over the place. |
10:21 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
10:21 | <&McMartin> | I'm gonna need a few, at some point. |
10:21 | <&McMartin> | I'm already using some. |
10:22 | <&McMartin> | But now I have red-black trees, and I can sneak them in undetected. |
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11:16 | | * Vornicus gives TW a cheese. |
11:16 | <~Vornicus> | what'd it do? |
11:18 | <@TheWatcher> | Use char * everywhere |
11:18 | <&McMartin> | sadface |
11:23 | <~Vornicus> | decidedly sadface |
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11:33 | <@gnolam> | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14636178/unsure-if-i-understand-transactionaw arepersistencemanagerfactoryproxy/14636231#14636231 |
11:33 | <@gnolam> | "And this, dear children, is why Java should stop taking drugs." |
11:38 | < ErikMesoy> | What do you suggest, hyphenation? ;) |
11:40 | <@Azash> | s/Java/Spring/ |
11:42 | <@TheWatcher> | ... ouch |
11:44 | < ErikMesoy> | Seriously, though, a long camelcased name hardly feels like "drugs" to me. |
11:45 | < ErikMesoy> | It's clunky, yes, but it doesn't seem all that bad if the alternative is something like "new TransactionAwareFactories.PersistenceManagerFactory().GetProxy()" |
11:56 | <@Alek> | what's camelcase? |
11:56 | <@froztbyte> | FunctionNamesLikeThis |
11:57 | <@froztbyte> | s/Function// |
11:58 | < Syka> | isnt camelcase in python bad |
11:58 | | * Syka does camelcase in python |
11:58 | < Syka> | fuck the pep8lice |
12:08 | < ErikMesoy> | Pep8 suggests CamelCase for class names, lowercase for function names, UPPERCASE for constants. |
12:09 | < Syka> | does pep8 mention variables |
12:10 | < ErikMesoy> | Global variables as functions, instance variables _prefixed with underscore. |
12:12 | < Syka> | ...huh |
12:12 | < Syka> | i thought _ was Bad |
12:14 | < Syka> | ooh i see |
12:14 | < Syka> | hmm |
12:16 | <@Azash> | I use underscore prefixes for parameter names |
12:17 | <@Azash> | I wonder if I will end up shot in the neck some day over it |
12:19 | < ErikMesoy> | You should use a suffix for that, apparently. |
12:19 | < ErikMesoy> | "single_trailing_underscore_: used by convention to avoid conflicts with Python keyword, e.g. Tkinter.Toplevel(master, class_='ClassName')" |
12:22 | <@Azash> | Oh we were talking Python |
12:58 | <@Namegduf> | I would suggest having a simpler architecture than one involving a proxy, to a factory class, to a manager, for a persistence layer which can either be transaction aware or not. |
13:00 | <@Namegduf> | That's teh "on drugs" aspect. Other languages avoid it by not having things like that to name, generally. |
13:00 | <@Namegduf> | (Or more precisely, not making it idiomatic to have things like that) |
13:46 | | * Vornicus tries to figure out how to be Least Grump-Making when producing this console dump. |
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15:59 | < AnnoDomini> | http://bash.org.pl/4851307/ <- "After a full day session of fucking with Word, LibreOffice and LaTeX, I opened Paint and drew that fucking line where I fucking wanted it." |
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17:21 | < AnnoDomini> | WTF. Virtual box isn't detecting any of my many USB devices. |
17:21 | < AnnoDomini> | I have the extension pack installed and enabled. |
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17:30 | < ktemkin> | What host OS? |
17:31 | < AnnoDomini> | Debian testing. |
17:31 | < ktemkin> | Is your user in the vboxusers group? |
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17:32 | < AnnoDomini> | Lemme try to find out. |
17:33 | < ktemkin> | Run 'groups $USER' and see if vboxusers (and plugdev, for that matter) are in the output. |
17:34 | < [R]> | `groups` as said user will suffice |
17:34 | < AnnoDomini> | "cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth scanner" |
17:35 | < [R]> | sudo usermod -aG vboxusers $USER |
17:36 | < AnnoDomini> | That did not seem to change the groups list. |
17:37 | <@froztbyte> | is this for a user you're logged in as? |
17:37 | < AnnoDomini> | Yeah. |
17:37 | <@froztbyte> | yeah then you get to run into staleness fun |
17:37 | <@froztbyte> | easiest fix: log out, log in |
17:37 | < AnnoDomini> | Roger, roger. |
17:39 | < ktemkin> | (Why do I seem to recall being told that usermod -aG was considered harmful?) |
17:39 | <@froztbyte> | yes |
17:39 | <@froztbyte> | but typically if you know what you're doing you're fine anyway |
17:40 | <@froztbyte> | (hint: most people don't) |
17:40 | < ktemkin> | I've always used "gpasswd -a $USER <group>". |
17:40 | <@froztbyte> | the Canonical Correct way these days is `adduser user group` |
17:40 | <@froztbyte> | ktemkin: good god, I haven't seen that in years! |
17:40 | <@froztbyte> | (also, that's not Canonical as in Failbuntu ShitSauce, but the actual meaning) |
17:40 | < ktemkin> | I don't even have adduser on my system. |
17:41 | <@froztbyte> | odd |
17:41 | <@froztbyte> | which release? |
17:41 | < AnnoDomini> | OK. This worked. |
17:41 | <@froztbyte> | (and of what, I guess) |
17:41 | < ktemkin> | I'm using Arch (which is rolling release) |
17:41 | < ktemkin> | Arch has useradd, which I'm assuming is more BSD-like. |
17:41 | | * froztbyte giggles inappropriately |
17:42 | <@froztbyte> | Gentoo v2, basically |
17:42 | < [R]> | Arch used to have both |
17:43 | < AnnoDomini> | Excellent. My vbox can now see my Hydroelectric Magnetosphere Regulator. |
17:46 | < ktemkin> | Yeah, adduser was dropped when it was deemed buggy by the arch-maintainer of the shadow package. |
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17:50 | <@froztbyte> | lols |
17:50 | <@froztbyte> | link? |
17:50 | < ktemkin> | https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/32893 |
17:51 | < ktemkin> | Additional comments about closing: "removed adduser in testing/shadow-4.1.5.1-3" |
17:53 | <@froztbyte> | uh |
17:53 | <@froztbyte> | adduser script does not respect SHELL in /etc/defaults/useradd |
17:53 | <@froztbyte> | ONE OF THOSE THINGS IS NOT LIKE THE OTHER |
17:55 | < ktemkin> | I suspect the maintainer may have been having a lot of difficulties with aspects of "adduser" recently, and just say "adduser", and went "screw this, dropping". |
17:55 | < ktemkin> | *and just saw |
17:55 | <@froztbyte> | I suspect that maintainer should guzzle some dicks, and then choke on them |
17:58 | < Syka> | well its arch |
17:58 | < Syka> | arch maintainers generally do need to |
17:58 | < ErikMesoy> | Send this to maintainer? http://www.collegehumor.com/picture/60815 |
18:01 | <@froztbyte> | hahaha |
18:01 | < ktemkin> | Ah, here's the problem. Looking at the new adduser package, here's the package description: "Interactive front end to /usr/bin/useradd from Slackware Linux" |
18:02 | <@froztbyte> | ...wat |
18:02 | <@froztbyte> | that's not helping my opinion of arch |
18:03 | < ktemkin> | http://mirror.lug.udel.edu/pub/slackware/slackware64-current/source/a/shadow/add user <-- |
18:03 | <@froztbyte> | ah well |
18:03 | <@froztbyte> | the issue at hand was solved |
18:04 | < AnnoDomini> | Remind me, who from this channel recommended me the elonics e4000 gizmo for receiving TV on my computer? |
18:04 | <@froztbyte> | I mentioned it as one of the options |
18:04 | <@froztbyte> | (also, I still don't have mine :<) |
18:04 | | * froztbyte hates on the .za postal service |
18:04 | < AnnoDomini> | I can't figure out how to go from "plug in USB stick" to "watch TV". |
18:04 | <@froztbyte> | (my friend who ordered his like 2 months after me got it /3 days later/) |
18:05 | <@froztbyte> | AnnoDomini: on linux? |
18:05 | < AnnoDomini> | Linux. Windows. Either. |
18:05 | < Syka> | mythtv? |
18:05 | <@froztbyte> | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/LinuxTV_dvb-apps |
18:08 | < AnnoDomini> | Okay, what package do I need to install to have the "hg" command? |
18:08 | <@froztbyte> | mercurial |
18:14 | < AnnoDomini> | OK. Installed package. |
18:15 | < AnnoDomini> | What now? |
18:16 | <@TheWatcher> | Sacrifice the goat |
18:16 | < ktemkin> | AnnoDomini: You're trying to install the LinuxTV software linked? |
18:17 | < AnnoDomini> | I'm using http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/LinuxTV_dvb-apps . Installed the dvb-apps package. |
18:17 | < AnnoDomini> | I want to reach the end step of "watch TV". |
18:17 | < ktemkin> | http://packages.debian.org/testing/dvb-apps <-- There's a list of the contained applications. |
18:18 | < ktemkin> | Looks like you want gnutv. |
18:20 | < AnnoDomini> | Hmm. Using "gnutv" gives the help file. Using "gnutv 1" gives "Could open channel file /etc/channels.conf" as if it's an error message. |
18:22 | < ktemkin> | http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Testing_your_DVB_device |
18:22 | < ktemkin> | There |
18:22 | < ktemkin> | *There's a "using DVB apps" section |
18:24 | | * AnnoDomini bleeds tears of bubbling pitch. This does not in any way resemble using a TV set. |
18:27 | < ktemkin> | A TV set typically doesn't go for $30, like most of those devices do. |
18:29 | < AnnoDomini> | I once had a PCI TV card. The software that came with it actually did resemble using a TV set. It can't have cost very much; I'd have remembered better if it was super-expensive. |
18:33 | < AnnoDomini> | Am I supposed to have a /dev/dvb? |
18:33 | <@froztbyte> | what does dmesg say? |
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18:33 | <@froztbyte> | (on plugging the device in you'll get a bunch of stuff relating to it, usually with the device name as well) |
18:34 | <@froztbyte> | (the driver or framework can decide which device name you get) |
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18:35 | < AnnoDomini> | http://pastie.org/8094937 |
18:41 | < ktemkin> | You can use "usb-devices" to tell whether there's an active driver associated with the device. (It's in the usbutils package.) |
18:42 | < ktemkin> | Something like: "usb-devices | grep "Vendor=00d7" -B 3 -A 8" should get just the information for that device |
18:43 | < ktemkin> | That'll output the device's info, including a list of interfaces and the associated drivers |
18:44 | < ktemkin> | I: If#= 0 Alt= 0 #EPs= 1 Cls=03(HID ) Sub=01 Prot=01 Driver=usbhid <-- There's the interface for my keyboard, for example, which is using the usbhid driver. If there's no relevant driver, you'll see Driver=(none). |
18:44 | < AnnoDomini> | Vendor is actually 0ccd. |
18:45 | < ktemkin> | (Whoops, I grabbed the product ID from your dmesg output, not the vendor ID-- but you get the point.) |
18:45 | < AnnoDomini> | http://pastie.org/8094956 |
18:48 | < AnnoDomini> | OK. No driver, it seems. |
18:50 | < ktemkin> | What kernel version are you running? |
18:52 | < ktemkin> | (uname -r) |
18:52 | < AnnoDomini> | "uname -r" gives "3.2.0-4-686-pae". I have like three versions on this box, but I'm not using the newest one, because for some reason the wifi doesn't work there. |
18:53 | < ktemkin> | https://github.com/ambrosa/DVB-Realtek-RTL2832U-2.2.2-10tuner-mod_kernel-3.0.0 <-- There's the driver. |
18:54 | < ktemkin> | Looking at the ubuntu intallation instructions, it looks like they should work on Debian. |
18:54 | < AnnoDomini> | Great. Trying. |
19:02 | < AnnoDomini> | make failed with a fatal error. |
19:02 | < AnnoDomini> | "(snip)foundation.h:19:21: fatal error: dvb-usb.h: No such file or directory" |
19:04 | < AnnoDomini> | dvb-usb.h appears to be present in both include directories. |
19:08 | < AnnoDomini> | Copying the .h files to the main directory seems to have solved it. |
19:19 | < AnnoDomini> | Argh. I'm not getting the expected messages at the end. |
19:20 | < AnnoDomini> | Well, sort of. |
19:20 | < AnnoDomini> | They're considerably different from the liste ones. |
19:20 | < AnnoDomini> | +d |
19:21 | < AnnoDomini> | http://pastie.org/8095030 |
19:22 | < ktemkin> | lsmod | grep dvb ? |
19:23 | < ktemkin> | (Also, I'd try unplugging and replugging your device and see if there's now a driver associated with the device.) |
19:23 | < ktemkin> | usbcore: registered new interface driver dvb_usb_rtl2832u <-- That looks promising; I'd expect that you might see driver=dvb_usb_rtl2832u when you run usb=devices this time. |
19:25 | < AnnoDomini> | http://pastie.org/8095039 |
19:26 | < ktemkin> | Yeah, it looks like the dvb_usb_rtl2832u kernel module's loaded. |
19:27 | < AnnoDomini> | usb-devices still says that there's no driver. |
19:34 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody[zZz] |
19:36 | < AnnoDomini> | Ideas? |
19:37 | < ktemkin> | There's a description of how to enable debug mode for that module on the bottom of the README for the git repo. |
19:37 | < ktemkin> | You could try that and see what shows up in your dmesg output. |
19:40 | < AnnoDomini> | Nothing much, apparently. |
19:48 | | * Derakon mutters at grep, wonders why "grep -E '.h.' /usr/share/dict/words" is turning up words with more than three letters. |
19:48 | <&Derakon> | ...oh right, beginning/end of line. |
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22:29 | | * TheWatcher eughs |
22:29 | <@TheWatcher> | This would be hilariously simple in perl |
22:30 | <@TheWatcher> | In C/C++, not so much |
22:31 | <@TheWatcher> | My code is being passed pointers to sScrMsg structures by the dark engine, for Reasons I need to be able to allow people using my scripts to access fields in those messages by name. |
22:33 | <&Derakon> | So you need the equivalent of getattr(object, userString)? |
22:33 | <&Derakon> | (getattr being the Python function for "look up the field with this name in this object") |
22:33 | <@TheWatcher> | Yep |
22:33 | <&Derakon> | I guess in Perl it'd just be object[userString]. |
22:33 | <&Derakon> | I...guess you could just have every object maintain a mapping of strings to member fields. |
22:33 | <@TheWatcher> | Well, usually object -> {userString}, but something along those lines, yes. |
22:34 | <&Derakon> | I'm very rusty on any Perl that doesn't commonly show up in my one-liners. |
22:38 | <@TheWatcher> | (it's more complicated because there are actually something like 80 different message types. Each message type is a subclass of sScrMsg that adds message type specific fields to the standard message fields) |
22:40 | <@TheWatcher> | (so I need to work out what sort of message I'm looking at, whether the field the user has requested exists for that message type, and return the value if it does.) |
22:49 | | ErikMesoy is now known as ErikMesoy|sleep |
22:53 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm actually wondering if the easiest way to do this would be to have a std::map with strings containing "MessageType.field" as the key and accessor function pointers as values. |
22:57 | <@TheWatcher> | Then have a function that works out the message type string, slaps the field name on the end, does a find(), and if a match is found call the accessor function. |
22:57 | <@TheWatcher> | Bit Heath-Robinson, but it should work. |
23:04 | | Turaiel[Offline] is now known as Turaiel |
23:05 | <@TheWatcher> | ... 649 function pointers. |
23:06 | <&ToxicFrog> | Awesome. |
23:14 | | * McMartin rocks out entirely too hard to the Self Destruct soundtrack |
23:14 | <&McMartin> | TheWatcher: Computed GOSUB based on the MessageType.field enum~ |
23:15 | <&McMartin> | Oh, except they're strings, so no "computed" |
23:15 | <&McMartin> | yeah, map |
23:15 | <&McMartin> | Also, welcome to ML/Haskell datatype declarations >_> |
23:16 | <@TheWatcher> | (well, unordered_map, I guess - ISTR they are faster for individual item lookup, rather than iteration, which is what I will be needing) |
23:16 | <&McMartin> | (At N=649 it's not clear that the asymptotic improvement will help.) |
23:16 | <&McMartin> | (As hashing a string requires accessing all characters and comparison doesn't) |
23:17 | <@TheWatcher> | Hm, point |
23:17 | <&McMartin> | That said |
23:17 | <&McMartin> | Premature optimization: square root of all evil |
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23:23 | <&McMartin> | Ah yes, of course. Random lootings of Modarchive. |
23:23 | <&McMartin> | (The Self Destruct song is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiAgWhgp_mw ) |
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