code logs -> 2013 -> Sun, 10 Mar 2013< code.20130309.log - code.20130311.log >
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02:43
<&ToxicFrog>
Fun exercise: how many things are wrong with this stack implementation? http://hastebin.com/cagodiyide.axapta
02:43
<&ToxicFrog>
I've found at least five.
02:53 * Vornicus finds two on first inspection.
02:53
<~Vornicus>
...three...
02:54
<~Vornicus>
four...
02:55
<~Vornicus>
I think that's all the ones I see.
02:56
<~Vornicus>
there may be more hiding in the java templating that I don't know about because i don't know how java does templating.
02:59
<&ToxicFrog>
Starts at -1, pop doesn't work, leaks memory, uses E[] rather than a Collection<E> or Pair<E, Stack<E>> or similar (which causes that ugly (E[])Object[] cast and the fixed size)
03:00
<&ToxicFrog>
Also the (top == maxSize) check is wrong and it'll ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException if you push too many things.
03:00
<&ToxicFrog>
Does that cover everything you found, or is there more that I missed?
03:02
<~Vornicus>
i have: push's raise never gets hit, pop doesn't show you what it popped, pop on an empty stack "works" (though you get aioobe), pop on a stack with one element raises.
03:04
<~Vornicus>
I don't know enough about java to know how it's leaking memory there, and I didn't bother criticizing the fixed-size stack.
03:05
<@Azash>
How does it leak memory?
03:06
<~Vornicus>
also it's not robust against errors due to the way they're using ++ and --; those take effect before the aioobe's are raised.
03:07
<~Vornicus>
so there you have it.
03:09
<~Vornicus>
So I think after you get an error or two the stack is completely unusable.
03:12
<&ToxicFrog>
Also the first element you push to it is sacrificed; you have to push twice before pop will work.
03:12
<~Vornicus>
that's my fourth error.
03:12
<&ToxicFrog>
Azash: it "pops" elements by decreasing the top-of-stack index without actually nulling the object reference.
03:13
<~Vornicus>
oh, right, that would be bad anywhere refcount gc happens.
03:13
<&ToxicFrog>
Which means that if you push four elements and then pop three, the stack still holds references to all four and they won't be subject to collection.
03:13
<@Azash>
True, but I wouldn't call it a real leak
03:13
<&ToxicFrog>
At least until you push more objects to overwrite the references or release the reference to the stack itself.
03:13
<&ToxicFrog>
Vornicus: even in mark-and-sweep.
03:13
<@Azash>
Since it's all accessible and will be collected when you push up there again
03:14
<~Vornicus>
tf: true
03:14
<&ToxicFrog>
Azash: in garbage collected languages, cases where something should be subject to collection but isn't because something is incorrectly holding a reference to it is generally referred to as a leak, even though it's not a leak in the C sense.
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19:20
<@Rhamphoryncus>
The cyanogenmod devs seem to have some lovely hostility towards bug reports. "We publish nightlies so you can use them, but don't you DARE give us bug reports!"
19:27
<@Pandemic>
lol
19:28
<@Tamber>
"Dear Devs; I don't think you understand *why* people release nightlies~"
19:30
<@Vasi>
TIL ISAAC is not a good RNG for a dicebot.
19:30
<@Vasi>
Neither is the Java built-in one.
19:31
<@Vasi>
Suggestions?
19:31 * Tamber hands Vasi a bucket of dice.
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19:34
<@Namegduf>
I think I just used C's own- but rather than using mod whatever, I split the space of possible values into whatever-many blocks and picked whichever one it was in.
19:34
<@Namegduf>
Basically, using that the higher bits were more reliably random.
19:36
< Attilla>
what happens if you give the cyanogenmod devs bug repots
19:36
< Attilla>
*reports
19:36
<@Namegduf>
They come for you in the nightlies.
19:36
<@Azash>
Things that go bump in the nightly
19:37
<@Azash>
But don't worry; I am sure that common man is still protected by some nightly orders
19:37
<@Rhamphoryncus>
If it's on a nightly they close it as invalid. If you post on a forum you might get flamed instead (I saw reference to that in the comments following a post from the devs saying not to submit but reports on nightlies)
19:38
<@Rhamphoryncus>
Another comment on there said nightlies were only to test merge issues
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