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| 00:52 | < ToxicFrog> | fuck graphs |
| 00:52 | <~Vornicus> | Which category of graphs |
| 01:00 | < Syk> | i love graphs |
| 01:00 | < Syk> | http://reddrgn.net/tempgraph.png < graph! :D |
| 01:03 | <~Vornicus> | Unpossible/ |
| 01:08 | < ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: time-vs-cores lineplots |
| 01:09 | < Syk> | yes |
| 01:09 | < Syk> | my computer is named unpossible |
| 01:09 | < Syk> | this laptop is named roofbucket |
| 01:09 | < ToxicFrog> | |
| 01:09 | <~Vornicus> | Well all right then. |
| 01:10 | < Syk> | it's hard coming up with good computer names D: |
| 01:10 | | * Vornicus has germain, and then his past computers were all also named after mathematicians. |
| 01:12 | < Syk> | my arch install is called ultrasystematic |
| 01:12 | < Syk> | i dunno why |
| 01:12 | <~Vornicus> | that's a bit longer than I'd name things. |
| 01:41 | < ToxicFrog> | Mine tend to be latin words describing their purpose (Ancilla, Auxilior, Oculus), AI names from fiction (Durandal, Leela, Thoth), or mythology references (Thoth, Orias). |
| 01:41 | < ToxicFrog> | Symbol goes entirely for dead gods - Quetzalcoatl, Freya, Isis. |
| 01:42 | < gnolam> | Thoth and Durandal don't count as mythology? :) |
| 01:52 | <&Derakon> | Hey, quick electrical question for y'all. I have an emergency-backup battery thing for when my car is dead. Its own battery is also dead. |
| 01:52 | <&Derakon> | It calls for 18V DC / .3A. I can't find that specific charger. |
| 01:52 | <&Derakon> | Would it be better to undervolt and over-amp it, or undervolt and under-amp it? |
| 01:52 | <&Derakon> | E.g. I have a 12V / 500mA charger and a 7.5V / 350mA charger. |
| 01:52 | <&Derakon> | Er, s/charger/adapter. |
| 01:57 | <~Vornicus> | Those both undervolt and overamp. |
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| 02:01 | <~Vornicus> | I'd go with the 12 volt thing. |
| 02:01 | <&Derakon> | Ah, so my messages did make it here? |
| 02:01 | <&Derakon> | Thanks for the advice. |
| 02:02 | <~Vornicus> | But both of those undervolt and overamp. |
| 02:03 | <~Vornicus> | Really it's the voltage that matters - the transformer will release as much current as the rest of the circuit asks for. |
| 02:04 | <~Vornicus> | Or, rather: if you put 12 volts across this thing your transformer will give off 200mA of current. |
| 02:04 | <~Vornicus> | No matter what it's rated for. |
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| 02:06 | <&Derakon> | I found an 8V/225mA adapter... |
| 02:07 | <~Vornicus> | Nope. |
| 02:07 | <~Vornicus> | [21:02:23] <~Vornicus> But both of those undervolt and overamp. |
| 02:07 | <~Vornicus> | [21:04:11] <~Vornicus> Really it's the voltage that matters - the transformer will release as much current as the rest of the circuit asks for. |
| 02:07 | <~Vornicus> | [21:05:08] <~Vornicus> Or, rather: if you put 12 volts across this thing your transformer will give off 200mA of current. |
| 02:07 | <~Vornicus> | [21:05:16] <~Vornicus> No matter what it's rated for. |
| 02:08 | <&Derakon> | I'm guessing that since it's a battery, it can handle getting less electricity than it's rated for; it'll just charge more slowly. |
| 02:09 | <~Vornicus> | It won't charge as high. |
| 02:09 | <&Derakon> | Ah. |
| 02:09 | <~Vornicus> | Your charger will stop when the battery hits 12 volts potential; as batteries drain they put out less voltage. |
| 02:09 | <&Derakon> | Hm, so depending on the characteristics of the battery that might possibly not be enough to get my car up and running again. |
| 02:10 | <~Vornicus> | This is why, as your batteries die, you need to tell your TI graphing calculator to increase the contrast more. |
| 02:11 | <&Derakon> | Well, not much I can do about it except find/buy the proper transformer. |
| 02:11 | <~Vornicus> | Any 18V transformer rated for 300mA or more will do the job. |
| 02:11 | <&Derakon> | I don't think my car actually needs as much power as the average -- it's a hybrid and I think it's sparkless -- certainly there's no chugga-chugga when I start it up. |
| 02:12 | <~Vornicus> | you don't want to go over 18V. |
| 02:12 | <&Derakon> | Gotcha. |
| 02:13 | < Reiv> | Derakon: You... managed to drain the battery on a /hybrid/. |
| 02:13 | < Reiv> | Does that require special talent?~ |
| 02:17 | <&Derakon> | Reiv: it requires leaving the lights on all day, because the car doesn't actually warn you when you remove the keys and the lights are on. |
| 02:17 | <&Derakon> | (Also, my connection cut out again goddammit) |
| 02:19 | < Reiv> | ... huh. That's a slight oversight. |
| 02:20 | < Reiv> | My car beeps at me most annoyingly! |
| 02:20 | <&Derakon> | I've made a mental note to contact the dealership and find out if that's a malfunction or something. |
| 02:20 | <&Derakon> | Because it does seem really stupid. |
| 02:20 | < Reiv> | Which is generally helpful, but causes a problem in that Orthia's pet cockatiel is starting to learn the tone and sing along to it >_< |
| 02:20 | <&Derakon> | ...you keep your cockatiel in the car? |
| 02:20 | < ToxicFrog> | My car makes a horrible screeching noise if you power it off with the lights on. |
| 02:21 | < Reiv> | Garage connected to house. |
| 02:21 | < ToxicFrog> | It also automatically unlocks the doors when you close them, which is nice |
| 02:21 | <&Derakon> | ...unlocks? |
| 02:21 | <&Derakon> | So you have to use the remote to actually lock them? |
| 02:21 | <&Derakon> | I guess that spares you from locking your keys in the car. |
| 02:22 | < ToxicFrog> | The remote or, you know, the actual key |
| 02:22 | <&Derakon> | ...yes. |
| 02:22 | < ToxicFrog> | And yes, the point is to make it extremely difficult to lock your keys in the car. |
| 02:35 | < gnolam> | <Derakon> I don't think my car actually needs as much power as the average -- it's a hybrid and I think it's sparkless -- certainly there's no chugga-chugga when I start it up. |
| 02:35 | < gnolam> | Why you need a big-ass battery in a normal car is because of the starter motor. |
| 02:36 | < gnolam> | And while electrical motors are really efficient, they draw a /lot/ of current. |
| 02:38 | <&Derakon> | Gnolam: but in a normal car, when you start it up you can hear the engine trying to "catch" or whatever it is, and this can take some time before the car actually starts. |
| 02:39 | <&Derakon> | With my car, it's just turn the key and the engine starts up immediately, no muss no fuss. |
| 02:39 | <&Derakon> | ...assuming the battery isn't dead. |
| 02:43 | <&McMartin> | Time to get to work on ARGLE |
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| 03:02 | < Syk> | i hate MBR disks |
| 03:02 | < Syk> | i hate them to hell |
| 03:41 | < rms> | Master Boot Record disks? |
| 03:41 | <@Tamber> | Syk ran into the 2TB limit. |
| 03:54 | < Syk> | Tamber: it seems to be a 2TB *boot* drive |
| 03:55 | <&McMartin> | Hey, all right |
| 03:55 | | * McMartin finally gets a client/server git setup to work the first time |
| 03:55 | <&McMartin> | Thanks to TF and the others in that conersation some weeks back |
| 03:56 | < Syk> | Tamber: you dont need UEFI to have a GPT drive as data |
| 03:56 | < Syk> | it seems |
| 03:56 | <@Tamber> | I know. |
| 03:56 | <@Tamber> | :) |
| 04:02 | < Azash> | McMartin: \o/ |
| 04:06 | | * Syk sets fire to Tamber :) |
| 04:06 | | * Tamber burns merrily. |
| 04:06 | < Syk> | so i wrote a clock that counts down to the time that i'm officially finished work |
| 04:06 | < Syk> | I have 2,093,195 seconds or 34886 minutes or 581 hours :o |
| 04:07 | < Azash> | :o |
| 04:08 | | * Azash wishes he could estimate that well |
| 04:10 | | * Reiv assumes Syk has a fairly precise end date. |
| 04:11 | < Syk> | Reiv: CoB 16th November |
| 04:13 | < Reiv> | CoB? |
| 04:13 | < Syk> | Close of Business |
| 04:15 | < Reiv> | Oh. |
| 04:15 | < Reiv> | Er. |
| 04:15 | < Reiv> | Happy or sad? >_> |
| 04:42 | < Syk> | Reiv: bit of both |
| 04:42 | < Syk> | I have to abdnadon all the cool shit i wanted to do |
| 04:42 | < Syk> | but my parents got screwed over by work and my supervisor resigned, so, fuck em |
| 04:43 | < Reiv> | hm |
| 04:43 | < Reiv> | What's the tale, Syk? |
| 04:45 | < Syk> | Reiv: CEO decided to not renew my mother's contract, despite a letter saying that they'd renegotiate |
| 04:45 | < Syk> | he just waited until budgets were over |
| 04:46 | < Syk> | then they were stalling on my supervisor's contract |
| 04:46 | < Syk> | and writing in all sorts of caveats |
| 04:46 | < Syk> | so he resigned |
| 04:46 | < Syk> | then the manager of finance resigned, then the executive assistant for unrelated reasons... |
| 04:47 | < Reiv> | ... at which poit the company didn't, uh, exist. |
| 04:47 | < Syk> | and then I heard the CEO was basically loudmouthing about my mother's contract a few weeks before at a conference |
| 04:47 | < Syk> | then I gave up rationalising the reasons I would stay |
| 04:48 | < Syk> | since they wouldn't pay me according to the market, screw me over later and I'd be spending most of my pay on accomodation |
| 04:48 | < Syk> | so I put in my letter of resignation on friday |
| 04:48 | < Reiv> | Good luck, then. |
| 04:48 | < Reiv> | Do you have any other prospects? |
| 04:49 | < Syk> | Reiv: none immediate, unfortunately |
| 04:49 | < Syk> | but I've got enough saved up to live comfortably for about a year before that becomes an emergency matter |
| 04:49 | < Reiv> | ... sweet. |
| 04:49 | <&McMartin> | Syk: Where are you located, roughly? |
| 04:49 | <&McMartin> | Also, woo, buffer zones >_< |
| 04:50 | < Azash> | McMartin: How goes? |
| 04:51 | <&McMartin> | Today was a mental health day |
| 04:51 | <&McMartin> | Gonna try to finish writing ARGLE tonight, I think. |
| 04:52 | < Azash> | ARGLE? |
| 04:52 | < ToxicFrog> | I miss having the brain to work on my projects |
| 04:52 | < ToxicFrog> | So close to being done |
| 04:52 | < ToxicFrog> | soooooo close |
| 04:52 | < Azash> | ToxicFrog: You can do it :D |
| 04:52 | < Syk> | McMartin: uhh |
| 04:52 | < Azash> | How little is left to go on the thesis? |
| 04:52 | < ToxicFrog> | Need to finish one section of the results and expand the literature survey from notes to text |
| 04:52 | < Syk> | McMartin: so, you know Australia much? |
| 04:53 | < Syk> | like, the state borders? |
| 04:53 | <&McMartin> | ARGLE: Automatic Requirements for GL Extensions |
| 04:53 | <&McMartin> | GLEW in reverse |
| 04:53 | < ToxicFrog> | Then an editing pass to make sure it reads well and all the figures are displaying properly and the \cites and \refs are linking up right |
| 04:53 | <&McMartin> | Syk: My exocortex does. |
| 04:53 | < Azash> | Ah |
| 04:53 | < Syk> | McMartin: well, sort of a border town between WA and NT |
| 04:53 | < ToxicFrog> | And then I send it off to my advisory committee to see if they have any edits they want made, and then I defend |
| 04:54 | < Azash> | ToxicFrog: Sounds good, not more than a couple of days at most right? You can do it~ |
| 04:54 | < Syk> | it's 3,500km/2200 mi or something from Perth |
| 04:54 | <@Tamber> | "Dustbowl, AU" |
| 04:54 | < Syk> | my state's capital city |
| 04:54 | < Reiv> | ToxicFrog: So you succeeded on the Coding, then? |
| 04:54 | <&McMartin> | nod nod |
| 04:54 | < ToxicFrog> | Reiv: yes |
| 04:54 | < Syk> | it's some 700 to 900 or so km from the next city |
| 04:54 | < Reiv> | Fantastic! |
| 04:54 | <&McMartin> | How likely is it you'll have to move for a job? |
| 04:54 | < Syk> | I live in the middle of *nowhere* |
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| 04:54 | < Syk> | McMartin: 99 to 100% |
| 04:54 | < Reiv> | Syk: how the heck was there a job out there to start with? |
| 04:54 | < ToxicFrog> | Although the results are basically "the thesis statement is partially supported: the code looks a lot nicer now but performance is lolno" |
| 04:54 | < Syk> | Reiv: government |
| 04:55 | < Reiv> | Ah-hah. |
| 04:55 | < Syk> | by 'live comfortably' I mean |
| 04:55 | < Syk> | 'move to the city and live comfortably' |
| 04:55 | < ToxicFrog> | There's lots of space for improvement, though (he-lo future work section) |
| 04:55 | < Reiv> | Syk: That's quite the buffer you have there, which is good to see. |
| 04:55 | < Reiv> | ToxicFrog: So you got the idea down, but couldn't get it to go Properly? |
| 04:56 | < Reiv> | Given I understand the point of this code to be Making Shinies With Processors. |
| 04:56 | < ToxicFrog> | Reiv: basically, the performance issues arose at the point where fixing them would require fundamental design overhauls that would have pushed me back another semester at best, assuming they worked at all |
| 04:56 | < Reiv> | Yeah, that's kind of a problem |
| 04:56 | < Azash> | Ouch |
| 04:56 | < Syk> | Reiv: yeah |
| 04:56 | < ToxicFrog> | But, well, I kind of figured I wouldn't hit the performance targets |
| 04:57 | < Syk> | I've been kinda planning for this day for about two years now |
| 04:57 | <&McMartin> | it's a thesis, not a product |
| 04:57 | <&McMartin> | Different goals |
| 04:57 | < Syk> | and now it comes to it, I'm terrified as hell |
| 04:57 | < ToxicFrog> | If Renesas actually wants to use it in production, they can have a copy of my thesis and my git repository and go wild |
| 04:58 | < ToxicFrog> | In the meantime, I've learned a shitload about this architecture specifically and low-level parallel programming in general (including the fact that I never want to do it again) and contributed some interesting work on spider management in cache-incoherent architectures. |
| 04:58 | < Reiv> | wut |
| 04:59 | <@Tamber> | "What to do when your hardware is made of spiders" |
| 04:59 | < ToxicFrog> | So, yeah, I figure another day or two to finish up the results, most of which will be spent fighting to get graphs out of R, then another 1-2 days violencing at the related work |
| 04:59 | < Reiv> | Oh, haha |
| 04:59 | < ToxicFrog> | Should be able to send it to my advisor middle of next week, which was my plan all along |
| 04:59 | < Reiv> | FULL OF SPIDERS is a phrase I have introduced to this workplace |
| 04:59 | < ToxicFrog> | Excellent |
| 04:59 | < Reiv> | They take it as 'one of the odd sayings of Reiver' |
| 05:00 | <&McMartin> | Yay, spider management |
| 05:00 | < Syk> | ...spider management? |
| 05:00 | < ToxicFrog> | McMartin: I think the most fundamental takeaway from my thesis is "get someone else to do it, and then use their library"~ |
| 05:00 | <&McMartin> | "full of spiders" is a saying TF gave #code that many of us took to heart |
| 05:01 | < Syk> | in Australia, we call 'spider management' 'grabbing the shotgun' |
| 05:01 | <&McMartin> | TF: Much of my thesis is in fact about doing that with Binary Decision Diagrams~ |
| 05:01 | < Reiv> | "Oh god, it's full of spiders" |
| 05:01 | <&McMartin> | Syk: Yeah, these are your pansy European and/or North American spiders |
| 05:01 | < Syk> | or 'burning it to the ground' |
| 05:01 | <&McMartin> | Which are tiny but incredibly numerous. |
| 05:01 | < Syk> | we have big ish ones |
| 05:01 | < Syk> | like the huntsman |
| 05:01 | < Reiv> | Note: he's an australian |
| 05:01 | < Syk> | who is completely harmless |
| 05:02 | < Syk> | BUT HUGE |
| 05:02 | < Reiv> | 'big-ish' means 'able to eat your head' |
| 05:02 | < Syk> | Reiv: who? |
| 05:02 | | * Reiv is making jokes. :) |
| 05:02 | < Syk> | I mean 'define he' :P |
| 05:02 | < Reiv> | Syk. Who may not in fact be male, nor australian. :) |
| 05:03 | < ToxicFrog> | Reiv: Syk is australian but is not male, IIRC |
| 05:03 | < Syk> | ToxicFrog wins the plush panda |
| 05:03 | <&McMartin> | Syk just gave her general location in Australia |
| 05:03 | < ToxicFrog> | Woo |
| 05:03 | <&McMartin> | So that part is less in contention |
| 05:03 | | * ToxicFrog has the panda immediately confiscated by his cats |
| 05:03 | <&McMartin> | \o/ |
| 05:04 | < Reiv> | Excellent! |
| 05:04 | < Reiv> | Then the ponoun may need correcting, but the aussie-ribbing jokes may continue! |
| 05:04 | | * Reiv (is a kiwi) |
| 05:04 | < Syk> | lol |
| 05:04 | < Azash> | I thought you're extinct :o |
| 05:04 | < Syk> | ...heehee, kiwis |
| 05:05 | < Syk> | Reiv: how's that marmite shortage going for you guys? :P |
| 05:05 | < Reiv> | Syk: Just fine, I prefer vegimite :P |
| 05:05 | <&McMartin> | Wait marmite shortage? |
| 05:05 | < Reiv> | McMartin: Fun Facts About Earthquakes #47 |
| 05:06 | < Reiv> | - They do in fact wreck factories as well as homes and shops! |
| 05:06 | < Reiv> | - And we only had one factory! |
| 05:06 | <@Tamber> | How inconsiderate of them, eh? |
| 05:06 | < Reiv> | - And the wonders of Just In Time distribution systems meant we didn't have any spares either! |
| 05:07 | <&Derakon> | MAXIMAL EFFICIENCY |
| 05:07 | < Reiv> | - So now our toast is sad. |
| 05:07 | <&McMartin> | I always kind of figured Marmite was transported throughout the world via Intercontinental Ballistic Marmite Missiles launched from Glasgow or something. |
| 05:07 | < Reiv> | *snrk* |
| 05:07 | <~Vornicus> | FIRE ZE MARMITE |
| 05:07 | <&Derakon> | But I am le tired |
| 05:07 | < Reiv> | Naw, each Marmite is its own unique and marginally terrifying flavor |
| 05:07 | <&McMartin> | Marmite makes sense |
| 05:07 | <&McMartin> | Well |
| 05:07 | <&McMartin> | At least as much sense as Crisco |
| 05:07 | <&McMartin> | OK, "marginally terrifying" fits. |
| 05:08 | <@Tamber> | I have never actually tasted marmite. Just looking at the stuff terrifies me enough. :D |
| 05:08 | <&McMartin> | Way better for you than Crisco. |
| 05:08 | < Reiv> | The skilled connisouer can tell the country of origin when served examples on plain white toast. |
| 05:08 | <&Derakon> | Ew, white bread. |
| 05:08 | < Reiv> | (Note: This last fact may in fact be bullshit.) |
| 05:08 | <&Derakon> | Couldn't it at least be sourdough? |
| 05:08 | < Syk> | vegemite is great |
| 05:08 | < Syk> | i have a jar of it right here |
| 05:08 | < Reiv> | (This fact brought to you by Romney 2012 Campaign!) |
| 05:09 | < Syk> | i should get a spoon and just eat it |
| 05:09 | < Syk> | i have done that before |
| 05:09 | < Syk> | it makes americans cry at the thought |
| 05:09 | <@Tamber> | Yes, but you're a freak. ;) |
| 05:09 | < Azash> | I hear it's also pretty good thermal paste |
| 05:09 | < Reiv> | It's fantastic on toast with cheese. |
| 05:09 | <&McMartin> | Syk: Well, no |
| 05:09 | <&McMartin> | For the full effect |
| 05:09 | < Syk> | c'mon tamber you ought to join me |
| 05:09 | <&McMartin> | You first clean it out |
| 05:09 | <&McMartin> | And then fill it with Nutella |
| 05:09 | < Reiv> | Otherwise known as 'mousetrap'. |
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| 05:10 | <@Syk> | owo |
| 05:10 | <@Syk> | that's a lot of ops |
| 05:10 | <@Azash> | o* |
| 05:10 | <@Reiv> | #Code lives by the creed of 'an armed society is a polite society' |
| 05:10 | <&McMartin> | We do the "armed society is a polite society" thing here, and have secret uberops to slay those who abuse their power. |
| 05:10 | <&Derakon> | Man, I keep thinking it'd be nice to have some Nutella. |
| 05:10 | <&Derakon> | But there's no such thing as "some" Nutella. |
| 05:10 | <@Syk> | oh cool |
| 05:10 | <&Derakon> | There's just "way too much" Nutella. |
| 05:10 | <@Reiv> | And being that this is Internet Land, any misfires are reversable anyway, so~ |
| 05:10 | <@Syk> | does 'abuse power' mean 'kick tamber every time he uses the letter z' :o |
| 05:10 | <@Tamber> | Reiv: ...that and "But you un-op'd people make my nicklist *messy*" |
| 05:11 | <@Syk> | :P |
| 05:11 | <@Azash> | McMartin: The illuminetwork operators? |
| 05:11 | <@Reiv> | Syk: Probably. |
| 05:11 | <@Reiv> | McMartin has a point, mind |
| 05:11 | <&McMartin> | Azash: Also some regular SOPs. |
| 05:11 | <@Reiv> | I don't know if the creed works so well in channels where, y'know, normal rules apply |
| 05:11 | <@Syk> | heh |
| 05:11 | <@Reiv> | But #Code may have been founded and established by, uh, half the Nightstar network ops, so the question in this case is moot~ |
| 05:11 | <@Syk> | ugh fuck |
| 05:12 | <@Tamber> | Reiv: I'm not so sure how well it'd works in places other than this, really. |
| 05:12 | | * Syk throws this keyboard at Tamber |
| 05:12 | | * Tamber QWERTY'd. |
| 05:12 | <@Azash> | Rather a strange coincidence, ircops being into programming |
| 05:12 | <@Syk> | for some reason a few years ago all our PCs were shipped with GB or EU keyboards |
| 05:12 | <&Derakon> | There are channels with massive numbers of ops. |
| 05:12 | <@Azash> | strange a* |
| 05:12 | <&Derakon> | Few where everyone is an op though. |
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| 05:12 | <@Syk> | so i've got all these keyboard with giant enter keys |
| 05:13 | <&ToxicFrog> | Aha! |
| 05:13 | <@Syk> | so instead of doing domain\ |
| 05:13 | <@Syk> | i just send the server a username of domain and a blank password |
| 05:13 | <@Syk> | which - UNSURPRISINGLY - doesn't work :| |
| 05:13 | <@Tamber> | I'd be worried if it did. |
| 05:13 | <@Reiv> | Derakon: To be fair, not everyone here is an op either |
| 05:13 | <@Reiv> | It's just everyone in here is a regular so therefore opped. :P |
| 05:14 | <&ToxicFrog> | Syk: these are the freakish backwards-L-shaped enter keys? |
| 05:14 | <@Syk> | ToxicFrog: yeah |
| 05:14 | <@Reiv> | I was annoyed when first I saw a keyboard with the 'little enter' |
| 05:14 | <@Azash> | Isn't that more a feature of the keymap the keyboard in question was made for? |
| 05:15 | <@Reiv> | Then I took up programming and hiss at the alternative! |
| 05:15 | <@Azash> | I mean, at least Finnish layouts virtually always have the large return keys |
| 05:15 | <&ToxicFrog> | Syk: you can get those over here too, if you hate yourself |
| 05:15 | <@Syk> | my steelseries at home has a large enter |
| 05:15 | <@Syk> | and it annoys me |
| 05:15 | <@Syk> | i like the little enter |
| 05:15 | <@Azash> | The little return that could |
| 05:15 | <@Syk> | i am also appreciative of a 2-key sized backspace |
| 05:16 | <@Tamber> | I like the rotated-L shaped return key. It means # is within easy reach. |
| 05:16 | <@Tamber> | (Despite not being over 3.) |
| 05:16 | <@Syk> | because I am uncoordinated and am pretty sure i have the hands of an unfortunate victorian loom girl |
| 05:16 | <@Tamber> | Really unfortunate. You should give those back. |
| 05:16 | <@Syk> | like, the ones that somehow got lodged entirely in the machine |
| 05:17 | <@Tamber> | ...Oh, so that's how you got hold of them! |
| 05:17 | <@Syk> | you know what's frustrating |
| 05:17 | <&ToxicFrog> | o.O |
| 05:17 | <@Syk> | calling up microsoft to do the automated windows activation method |
| 05:17 | <@Syk> | you have to enter 9 sets of 6 digits |
| 05:17 | <@Syk> | and then they read back 9 sets of six digits back |
| 05:18 | | * Tamber swaps out Syk's phone for one that only does pulse-dialing. |
| 05:18 | <@Syk> | pulse dialing? |
| 05:18 | <@Tamber> | ...as opposed to tone. |
| 05:18 | <&McMartin> | Emits N beeps to mean a number, as opposed to touch-tone, which uses frequencies |
| 05:18 | <@Syk> | oh |
| 05:19 | <@Syk> | well australia's telephone service has alwasy not sucked so I don't know of such a thing |
| 05:19 | <@Tamber> | Stop making me feel old. |
| 05:19 | <@Syk> | :3 |
| 05:19 | <@Syk> | Tamber: you're like 23 |
| 05:19 | <@Tamber> | 21, for Hastur's sake! And no, that's not centuries, either! |
| 05:19 | <@Syk> | >hook up Server 08 R2 box to domain, get it to get updates |
| 05:20 | <@Syk> | >143MB of updates + 262MB of updates yet to download on WSUS |
| 05:21 | <&ToxicFrog> | ...that doesn't sound like much at all |
| 05:22 | <@Syk> | I know |
| 05:22 | <@Tamber> | Over tin-cans and string? |
| 05:22 | <@Syk> | I'm surprised |
| 05:23 | <@Azash> | 07:18 <&McMartin> Emits N beeps to mean a number |
| 05:23 | <&ToxicFrog> | (then again, I'm used to Linux, which means I'm used to a first update often being in the gigabyte range) |
| 05:23 | <@Azash> | Was that used by rotary phones? |
| 05:23 | <~Vornicus> | Yep. |
| 05:23 | <@Syk> | ToxicFrog: Windows 7 has a shittonne of updates |
| 05:23 | <@Azash> | Right, I can see how that would work |
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| 05:23 | <~Vornicus> | At some point my grandmother had a rotary phone that did tone dialing. |
| 05:23 | <@Syk> | i download like 250MB of updates sometimes |
| 05:26 | <@Syk> | i have 13GB of updates |
| 05:26 | <@Syk> | yay |
| 05:26 | <@Syk> | I might go get some food |
| 05:27 | <@Syk> | apparently skipping eating last night and this morning isn't too conductive to my body liking me, who'd have guessed |
| 05:28 | <&ToxicFrog> | Yeah, food is probably a good idea |
| 05:29 | <&ToxicFrog> | I tend to forget about eating when in the madness place and then my body gets really stroppy with me when I leave it |
| 05:29 | <&McMartin> | hungry high-five |
| 05:30 | <&ToxicFrog> | (I am hungry now, but that's because I just got back from UWH and haven't finished processing the post-practice snack) |
| 05:35 | | * Azash peers at clock, is going to Linus Torvalds talk in 2.5 hours |
| 05:39 | | * Syk flops back in with subway |
| 05:40 | | * Azash assumes a gelatinous state |
| 05:43 | | * Syk applies delicious schnitzel to ToxicFrog and McMartin |
| 05:43 | <@Syk> | :D |
| 05:43 | <@Syk> | oh fff someone stole my cup |
| 05:43 | <@Syk> | i will find them and have their heart for dinner |
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| 09:00 | <@Syk> | ARGH |
| 09:00 | | * Syk sets fire to EVERYTHING EVER |
| 09:00 | <&McMartin> | BARGHLE? |
| 09:00 | <@Syk> | I make a 1TB RAID1 |
| 09:01 | <&McMartin> | Arghbargleyarghborgle |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | to have to OS |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | and a 5TB RAID5 |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | to hold the data |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | I tell windows to install to the 1TB RAID1 |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | and I set everything up |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | BUT IT PUT THE 100MB BOOT PARTITION ON THE DATA DRIVE WITHOUT ASKING ME |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | LIMITING IT TO 2TB |
| 09:01 | <@Syk> | fuck windows |
| 09:02 | <@Tamber> | *facepalm* |
| 09:03 | <@Syk> | appaerently it only has startup repair |
| 09:03 | <@Tamber> | Isn't the 'standard' procedure for something like that to leave the data drives disconnected until you've got Windows installed; so it doesn't do things like that? :x |
| 09:03 | <@Syk> | I just don't get it |
| 09:03 | <@Syk> | why would it purposely limit |
| 09:03 | <@Syk> | the fucking |
| 09:03 | <@Syk> | storage |
| 09:03 | <@Syk> | because |
| 09:04 | <@Tamber> | Because otherwise it'd be unbootable? |
| 09:04 | <@Syk> | ARGH THIS IS THE SECOND TIME TODAY |
| 09:04 | <@Syk> | okay so |
| 09:04 | <@Tamber> | The real question should probably be "Why did it put the damn boot partition on the data drives" |
| 09:04 | <@Syk> | there's a way to fix it |
| 09:04 | <@Syk> | Tamber: it saw it was bigger |
| 09:04 | <@Syk> | HOLY SHIT LARGER DRIVE LETS PUT EVERYTHING THERE |
| 09:04 | <@Tamber> | Hooray, 'helpful' software. |
| 09:05 | <@Syk> | okay so |
| 09:05 | <@Syk> | i think i can fix it |
| 09:05 | <@Syk> | I *think* |
| 09:06 | <@Tamber> | Hey, on the 'bright' side, even if it doesn't work; you were going to have to re-install anyway, right? |
| 09:07 | <@Tamber> | (on the "not huffing butane" side, it's ridiculous.) |
| 09:12 | <@Syk> | i really hate windows |
| 09:15 | <@Syk> | 576 hours until I don't have to worry about it anymore! |
| 09:41 | | * Azash gets back from Linus talk |
| 09:42 | <@Azash> | \:D/ |
| 09:42 | <@Azash> | Things mocked include: Java, FSF, some guy who favoured the cathedral over the bazaar |
| 09:42 | <@Syk> | i hate windows |
| 09:42 | <@Syk> | so much |
| 09:43 | <@Syk> | steve ballmer needs his face punched |
| 09:43 | <&McMartin> | One Steve falls, another must rise |
| 09:44 | <@Azash> | Windows needs some better developers developers developers |
| 09:45 | <&McMartin> | I think they burned them all away making Win7 |
| 09:45 | <@Syk> | it just makes me want to cry |
| 09:45 | <@Syk> | the 100mb boot partition needs to PROMPT WHERE IT'S INSTALLING |
| 09:45 | <@Syk> | oh thank fuck my server is booting again |
| 09:46 | <@Syk> | THANK YOU BASED HP ARRAY CONFIGURATION UTILITY |
| 09:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | McMartin: Oh, hey. I remember you saying that you teach people like me to program games so you have more games to play. |
| 09:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | McMartin: So I bring you this offering: https://github.com/AbuDhabi/Vinland-Trail/downloads |
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| 10:10 | <&McMartin> | I don't recall actually saying that, actually |
| 10:13 | <@AnnoDomini> | It was some time ago. Around December 2008. |
| 10:16 | | * McMartin now has like 80 games to play >_> |
| 10:17 | <@AnnoDomini> | So great an educator are you? :V |
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| 11:23 | <&McMartin> | AnnoDomini: Hey, I remember this project now |
| 11:23 | <&McMartin> | Good times =D |
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| 11:27 | <@AnnoDomini> | :D |
| 12:52 | | * Azash emerges x11, puts spanish flea on infinite loop |
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| 14:47 | <@iospace> | ... |
| 14:47 | | * iospace eyes Azash |
| 14:47 | <@Syk> | hey iospace |
| 14:47 | <@Syk> | "Just received my dock this morning a full 6 months after it was meant to be delivered. I can't even use it as I have upgraded to iPhone 5 and I now have a very nice looking paper weight on my desk." |
| 14:47 | <@Azash> | Hullo |
| 14:47 | <@Syk> | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/hop/elevation-dock-the-best-dock-for-iphone |
| 14:47 | | * Azash snortsd |
| 14:47 | <@Azash> | -d |
| 14:47 | <@Azash> | iospace: What did I do now? |
| 14:47 | <@Syk> | iospace: :D right after a bunch of people recieve their $60 to $80 iPhone docks... they realise it doesn't work |
| 14:47 | <@Syk> | and the whole point of it is that it comes out of the dock easy |
| 14:48 | <@Syk> | so they have to make an adapter |
| 14:48 | <@Syk> | oh no wait |
| 14:49 | <@Syk> | if you got the orange or green on |
| 14:49 | <@Syk> | it's $150 |
| 14:49 | <@Azash> | It seems like these guys knew their market |
| 14:49 | <@Syk> | /for a dock/ |
| 14:49 | <@Syk> | "If you have tried using docks for your iPhone, you have probably felt our frustration: Undocking is difficult, many aren't designed to work with cases, they are lightweight, and are generally made as a cheap afterthought accessory." |
| 14:49 | <@Syk> | you know what |
| 14:49 | <@Syk> | I don't have this problem |
| 14:49 | <@iospace> | Azash: ALL THE THINGS! |
| 14:50 | <@Syk> | MicroUSB is surprisingly /not retarded/ |
| 14:51 | <@Syk> | oh wait, someone came up with a solution |
| 14:51 | <@Syk> | http://thenextweb.com/apple/2012/10/02/its-alive-elevation-dock-modified-work-ap ples-iphone-5-lightning-connector/ |
| 14:51 | <@Syk> | it involves ripping apart the dock and embedding your own Lightning cable |
| 14:52 | <@Syk> | installing a fully documented ROM == too hard |
| 14:53 | | * Azash waves his arms helplessly |
| 14:53 | <@Azash> | Syk: Are they liable for it either? |
| 14:53 | <@Syk> | ripping apart a $80+ docking station over the course of half an hour == EASY AS PIE EVERYONE SHOULD DO IT |
| 14:53 | <@Syk> | Azash: the dock makers? |
| 14:53 | < celticminstrel> | ... |
| 14:53 | <@Azash> | Yeah |
| 14:53 | <@Syk> | nope, the docks were 'sold' November last year |
| 14:53 | <@Azash> | >emerging 94 of 963 ;_; |
| 14:54 | <@Azash> | Wait did that say 963 |
| 14:54 | <@Azash> | 463, whew |
| 14:54 | <@Syk> | but it seems that the developer was great in Photoshop and Blender... but didn't seem to realise how to ship on time |
| 14:54 | <@Syk> | :P |
| 14:56 | <@Tamber> | So, about standard for kickstarter? |
| 14:56 | <@Syk> | 6 months late? |
| 14:56 | <@Azash> | Guess so |
| 14:56 | <@Syk> | pretty good by kickstarter standards |
| 14:57 | <@Syk> | the only Kickstarter projects that are ever on time are the 'we've got prototypes and everything is ready, we just need the capital for upscaling production' |
| 14:57 | <@Syk> | and even then it's sketchy |
| 14:57 | < celticminstrel> | I don't even see why such a thing is necessary. What's wrong with the cable you get with the phone? |
| 14:58 | <@Syk> | celticminstrel: it's not a docking station |
| 14:58 | <@Syk> | like this is a bit of metal that holds it upright |
| 14:58 | < celticminstrel> | What's so special about that? |
| 14:59 | <@Syk> | apparently undocking in the past has been /too hard/ |
| 14:59 | <@Syk> | and it doesn't /slip right off the dock as you pull it/ |
| 14:59 | <@Syk> | me? I use a fucking cable |
| 14:59 | < celticminstrel> | Me too. |
| 14:59 | < celticminstrel> | Why would you need it held upright anyway? |
| 15:00 | <@Syk> | because 24/7 access to their instagram feed |
| 15:00 | < celticminstrel> | And that's not possible while holding it in your hand? |
| 15:01 | <@Syk> | but that doesn't look /elegant/ |
| 15:01 | <@Syk> | or whatever it is |
| 15:01 | <@Syk> | brb\ |
| 15:01 | <@iospace> | man my EFI is rusty D: |
| 15:02 | <@Azash> | Your mobo or? |
| 15:03 | <@iospace> | code skills |
| 15:03 | <@Azash> | Ah |
| 15:04 | < celticminstrel> | Elegant. |
| 15:04 | < celticminstrel> | 9_9 |
| 15:04 | <@Azash> | That face looks extremely tired |
| 15:05 | | * Azash just wants gentoo working so he can get to deving |
| 15:05 | <@iospace> | why am I awake right now? |
| 15:05 | <@Azash> | Your blood calls for coding |
| 15:05 | <@Azash> | Embrace the keyboard |
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| 15:08 | <@iospace> | i know |
| 15:08 | <@iospace> | well, see, it builds atm but it currently doesn't work :P |
| 15:10 | | * iospace grumbles about asserts |
| 15:10 | | * Azash shivers when thinking back to GNUASSERT |
| 15:10 | | * Syk asserts iospace |
| 15:12 | <@iospace> | though i think i know where the error is |
| 15:13 | <@iospace> | problem is fixing it Dx |
| 15:33 | <@iospace> | ... |
| 15:33 | | * iospace eyes her code |
| 15:33 | <@Syk> | iospace's code is now /diamonds/ |
| 15:34 | <@Azash> | iospace in a meeting with Jack Nicholson two months from now |
| 15:34 | <@Azash> | "Did you order the code review?" |
| 15:42 | < celticminstrel> | Diamonds! |
| 15:42 | | * iospace head desks |
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| 17:10 | | * Tarinaky WTFs at his homework. |
| 17:10 | <@Azash> | Anything bueno in there? |
| 17:12 | <@Tarinaky> | Check #math |
| 17:12 | <@Azash> | I doubt I would cut it in there yet, so no thanks |
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| 19:15 | | * iospace arghs |
| 20:24 | < RichyB> | iospace: am I right in assuming that in your work, almost every bug is a Heisenbug? |
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| 20:33 | <@iospace> | yes |
| 20:33 | <@iospace> | also, i'm getting weird ass side effects here |
| 20:34 | <@iospace> | as in i have a doubly linked list |
| 20:34 | <@iospace> | and it's not adding to the tail properly |
| 20:38 | <@iospace> | ... ok EDK2, you're weird |
| 20:42 | < RichyB> | There was an article knocking around reddit about programming StarCraft a few weeks back. |
| 20:43 | < RichyB> | Their number one source of crash bugs was slightly-incorrect copy-pasted doubly-linked-list implementations. |
| 20:46 | <@iospace> | :P |
| 20:46 | <@iospace> | i'm sort of confused as to why it's breaking but... |
| 20:46 | < RichyB> | All I'm saying is, I hope someone sensible has put an intrusive-doubly-link-list implementation into your project somewhere and you're just calling that, rather than throwing pointers everywhere. ;P |
| 20:47 | <@iospace> | the issue is that the prior node is being set to the node that i want on the end |
| 20:51 | <@iospace> | first attempt to add to the end works fine, after that it doesn't |
| 20:56 | <@iospace> | ok, i think i figured out why |
| 21:03 | <@iospace> | there we go |
| 21:03 | <@iospace> | i was a derp! XD |
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| 22:58 | <@iospace> | time to rework everything! |
| 23:10 | <~Vornicus> | hooray |
| 23:12 | <@Moltare> | Rework all the things |o/ |
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