| --- Log opened Tue Jul 17 00:00:56 2012 |
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| 01:02 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 01:07 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 01:10 | < Rhamphoryncus> | god fucking damnit. Still no luck |
| 01:10 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Tried the heimdall deb, tried building heimdall from source, tried it on windows, tried odin (kies installer hung), and many variants thereof. Nothing. |
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| 04:44 | < froztbyte> | http://www.thepowerbase.com/2012/04/open-source-done-right-interview-with-yubico s-fredrik-thulin/ |
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| 10:44 | < ShellNinja> | http://abstrusegoose.com/strips/i_never_would_have_passed_kindergarten.png |
| 11:07 | <@TheWatcher> | Pffft |
| 11:18 | <@TheWatcher> | (So very true >.<) |
| 11:20 | <&McMartin> | Yup, that's the Ruby tutorial all right. |
| 11:20 | <&McMartin> | SICP was, IME, better than that~ |
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| 12:19 | <@TheWatcher> | Gah |
| 12:19 | <@TheWatcher> | Why can I never remember the ranges on MySQL numeric types |
| 12:20 | <@TheWatcher> | Given how much I use them, it should be second nature now |
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| 13:44 | < Reiver> | I could tell you the oracle ones~ |
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| 15:08 | | * TheWatcher proceeds to write an entire stackexchange-style QA forum, from scratch. Deadline: Monday morning. |
| 15:10 | <@TheWatcher> | (because it really easier to write this thing from scratch, than deal with the jibbering insanity caused by the crawling hive of spiders that is attempting to integrate every other QA Forum implementation out there with this system (pretty much any other system is bad enough with most of them, but this is especially nasty because of metadata and security requirements)) |
| 15:18 | < Tarinaky> | Okay. I need serious advice about how to successfully rewrite a core assumption of a code base. |
| 15:18 | < Tarinaky> | Because I think I might have written myself into a courner |
| 15:19 | <@TheWatcher> | ? |
| 15:20 | < Tarinaky> | Yes? |
| 15:21 | <@TheWatcher> | I was wondering what the problem is |
| 15:23 | < Tarinaky> | I'm not sure how to proceed with this project. |
| 15:24 | < Tarinaky> | Because I don't want to have to rewrite. |
| 15:24 | < Tarinaky> | But any change I can think of is going to make everything fall over and die. |
| 15:28 | <@TheWatcher> | not really enough to go on to provide any real advice, other than if a project is in a state that really is that bad, your only choices tend to be to either refactor mercilessly or rewrite. |
| 15:29 | < Tarinaky> | I don't know what to say. |
| 15:30 | < Tarinaky> | The problem is that the UI probes the global game state to determine what to draw and where. This is providing copious holes in the Fog of War. |
| 15:30 | < Tarinaky> | What I really need is a buffered game state, containing only what's visible/known, and probe that. |
| 15:56 | < froztbyte> | http://turing100.acm.org/lambda_calculus_timeline.pdf |
| 15:58 | < Tarinaky> | When is the correct point to consider rewriting? |
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| 16:08 | <@TheWatcher> | Ohgod lambda calculus |
| 16:09 | < iospace> | i never got the hang of that |
| 16:09 | <@TheWatcher> | Tarinaky: I'd say just about 10 seconds after you start a project |
| 16:10 | | ShellNinja is now known as AnnoDomini |
| 16:11 | <@TheWatcher> | (more seriously, as soon as you find yourself kludging things in, rather than them fitting in nicely) |
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| 16:16 | <@TheWatcher> | iospace: I somehow managed to pass my final year lambda calculus course, but 12 years later I'm still afraid to look at the transcript to find out by how little I managed it >.> |
| 16:17 | < iospace> | haah |
| 16:24 | <@TheWatcher> | Wait, no, 14 now. Sheesh. |
| 16:24 | <@TheWatcher> | S'vaguely depressing. |
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| --- Log closed Tue Jul 17 17:05:09 2012 |
| --- Log opened Tue Jul 17 17:10:41 2012 |
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| 18:49 | < Rhamphoryncus> | blaaaaaah |
| 18:52 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Can't get my medhelper&sleepbot data to transfer either :( |
| 19:08 | < Rhamphoryncus> | oookay, managed to copy the dirs around enough that the apps found them |
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| 23:00 | < iospace> | could i get ops real quick? :3 |
| 23:00 | | * iospace pokes McMartin |
| 23:00 | <&McMartin> | What is your plan |
| 23:00 | < iospace> | going to invite a friend :P |
| 23:01 | < iospace> | she's a webdev, but it's still close enough |
| 23:01 | <&McMartin> | Wait, since when is #code /invite only |
| 23:01 | < iospace> | she won't join otherwise! |
| 23:01 | < iospace> | :< |
| 23:02 | <&McMartin> | I am confused |
| 23:02 | < iospace> | nvm |
| 23:02 | < iospace> | forget it D: |
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| 23:02 | < iospace> | IO IS AN IDIOT -hangs head in shame- |
| 23:02 | <&McMartin> | Also, do you even need ops to /invite |
| 23:02 | <&McMartin> | (honest question) |
| 23:02 | < iospace> | you do |
| 23:02 | <&McMartin> | Confusion |
| 23:02 | < iospace> | well |
| 23:02 | < iospace> | halfops |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | Alas, /hop is not a command. |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | I was hoping to turn you into beer |
| 23:03 | < iospace> | /mode iospace +h :P |
| 23:03 | < iospace> | wait |
| 23:03 | | mode/#code [+ispc] by McMartin |
| 23:03 | < iospace> | /mode #code +h iospace |
| 23:03 | <&McMartin> | Wait, what |
| 23:03 | < iospace> | ... |
| 23:03 | < iospace> | whoops |
| 23:03 | | mode/#code [-ispc] by McMartin |
| 23:03 | < iospace> | I FAIL |
| 23:04 | <&McMartin> | OK, you need a more competent op to help you, my irssi fails horribly |
| 23:04 | <&McMartin> | Only because you hit enter first |
| 23:04 | < iospace> | the second line i gave should work |
| 23:04 | | mode/#code [+h iospace] by McMartin |
| 23:04 | <%iospace> | or something! |
| 23:04 | <&McMartin> | There. |
| 23:04 | <%iospace> | there we go |
| 23:05 | <&McMartin> | The first attempt at this interpreted "iospace" as channel flags -_- |
| 23:05 | !Milliways.TX.US.Nightstar.Net *** iospace invited Bluefinger into the channel |
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| 23:05 | <%iospace> | :D |
| 23:05 | <%iospace> | welcome to the code base |
| 23:05 | <%iospace> | ... |
| 23:07 | | * Bluefinger hears the cicadas |
| 23:07 | <%iospace> | sorry |
| 23:07 | <%iospace> | for me that pun was bad |
| 23:07 | <%iospace> | :D |
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