| --- Log opened Fri Jun 08 00:00:47 2012 |
| 00:00 | < Rhamphoryncus> | yeah |
| 00:01 | < Rhamphoryncus> | My off by one involved this line: |
| 00:01 | < Rhamphoryncus> | invariant(x + y + z == N, "Indexes do not add up to size: %i+%i+%i != %i", x, y, z, N); |
| 00:01 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Needless to say I was confused by not getting a final value printed |
| 00:02 | < RichyB> | Hrmn? What is wrong with that? The counts all come out right. |
| 00:03 | < celticminstrel> | Why are you forced to use printf? |
| 00:03 | < Rhamphoryncus> | terminate called after throwing an instance of 'InvariantFailure' |
| 00:03 | < Rhamphoryncus> | what(): Indexes do not add up to size: 0+0+0 != |
| 00:03 | < Rhamphoryncus> | that's what it'd actually print out |
| 00:03 | < RichyB> | oh |
| 00:03 | < Rhamphoryncus> | celticminstrel: cout is incredibly crude for the same line |
| 00:03 | < RichyB> | I see what you mean. |
| 00:04 | < celticminstrel> | How so? |
| 00:04 | < RichyB> | Thought you meant the line itself was wrong. |
| 00:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | RichyB: nah |
| 00:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | celticminstrel: for starters it doesn't have format strings |
| 00:04 | < celticminstrel> | But you're not even using them there. |
| 00:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I use them 4 times |
| 00:04 | < RichyB> | celticminstrel, if, invariant(x +y + z == N) << "Indexes do not add up to size: " <<x << "+" << y << "+" << "z" << " != " << N << "\n"; |
| 00:04 | < celticminstrel> | Besides, it does have format flags, though I suppose they're a bit clunkier. |
| 00:05 | < RichyB> | I mean Jesus I got so bored typing that. |
| 00:05 | < Rhamphoryncus> | RichyB: that's not even sufficient. You need to tell whatever magic object invariant() returns that you're actually done and it can raise the exception now |
| 00:06 | < RichyB> | Oh aye, you can't exactly land a hook on the semicolon. |
| 00:06 | < Rhamphoryncus> | The equivalent to endl. Which is error prone (very easy to miss and make your check a no-op) |
| 00:06 | < celticminstrel> | Huh? |
| 00:06 | < celticminstrel> | Oh, right. |
| 00:06 | < celticminstrel> | I see what you mean. |
| 00:07 | < Rhamphoryncus> | It should be possible to do it right in C++11 via variadic templates, but I tried and they were a PITA. Not worth the time to get working |
| 00:07 | < celticminstrel> | You mean like a variadic template version of printf? |
| 00:08 | < Rhamphoryncus> | My intent was to allow this: invariant(x + y + z == N, "Indexes do not add up to size: {}+{}+{} != {}", x, y, z, N); |
| 00:08 | < RichyB> | Hrmn. Something like, invariant(x + y + z == N, _1 << "Indexes to not add up to"...); using boost::lambda or something. |
| 00:08 | < RichyB> | But really, to Hell with operator<<. |
| 00:09 | < celticminstrel> | I like operator<< |
| 00:09 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Conceptually it's not that hard, except it's done via functional-style recursion (head of your "list" and tail, pass tail to yourself recursively), and printing a string as you go is ugly |
| 00:10 | < RichyB> | It's more like a continuation pass up the line of << operators but still. Oh god the syntax. |
| 00:10 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Having a type-safe way of printing a single object that doesn't require declaring the specific format? That's good. Everything else about it? Bad. |
| 00:10 | < celticminstrel> | Everything else? :P |
| 00:11 | < Rhamphoryncus> | RichyB: I mean variadic templates are recursive |
| 00:11 | < celticminstrel> | (Back in a moment.) |
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| 00:11 | < Rhamphoryncus> | <RichyB> celticminstrel, if, invariant(x +y + z == N) << "Indexes do not add up to size: " <<x << "+" << y << "+" << "z" << " != " << N << "\n"; |
| 00:11 | < celticminstrel> | Didn't I see that? |
| 00:11 | < Rhamphoryncus> | That's par for operator<<. Actually it's a little better because the line was already fairly long |
| 00:12 | < RichyB> | Hrmn. |
| 00:12 | < RichyB> | Actually, if you had proper macros, you could do a *really* nice printf library. |
| 00:13 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Usually I have something like this: printf("Coord: %ix%i\n", x, y); and it gets replaced with std::cout << "Coord: " << x << "x" << y << std::endl; |
| 00:15 | < RichyB> | mprintf("%f, %f, %s, %s, %s", a, b, c, d, e); and have it generate a bunch of invocations of static methods (overloaded on arguments' classes), and even pass the information (e.g. the precision bits) from the escape code into the methods, possibly also in a way that shows up in the type system. |
| 00:15 | < Rhamphoryncus> | RichyB: C++11 variadic templates do allow that. It's just agony, that's all |
| 00:16 | < RichyB> | *calls to static methods. I accidentally a sentence fragment. |
| 00:16 | < celticminstrel> | Isn't C11 adding a form of overloading? |
| 00:16 | < Rhamphoryncus> | No idea about C |
| 00:17 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Revising C is language necromancy :P |
| 00:17 | < celticminstrel> | XD |
| 00:18 | < celticminstrel> | It's funny how the two languages are adding some of the same things in different ways, though. |
| 00:26 | <~Vornicus> | oh right, torchlight has all these awesome modding tools. I wonder precisely how powerful they are. |
| 00:29 | < Rhamphoryncus> | const int entries = N * (N+1) / 2; |
| 00:29 | < Rhamphoryncus> | that took way too long to figure out x_x |
| 00:30 | < celticminstrel> | Don't worry, I took forever to figure out which portion of the screen to draw when scrolling was constricted. |
| 00:31 | < Rhamphoryncus> | That's the number of entries in a 5x5 triangle. Stored as a right triangle |
| 00:31 | < celticminstrel> | Oh hey, it does look familiar. |
| 00:32 | < celticminstrel> | (Note, I said "screen" where I meant "level".) |
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| 00:33 | < Rhamphoryncus> | This I don't feel so bad about, since it took me much longer and doesn't feel so obvious: |
| 00:33 | < Rhamphoryncus> | int offset = x*(x-1) / 2; |
| 00:33 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Which is.. calculate the usual x*N + y, then subtract offset for the non-existent entries |
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| 00:47 | < Rhamphoryncus> | So, got my triangle indexing done.. only to realize it's specifically for vertices and I need a function for faces too |
| 00:49 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Which is complicated because there's two orientations for the faces |
| 00:50 | < Rhamphoryncus> | starting at a ratio of 3:1 and approaching 1:1 as the subdivision gets larger |
| 00:51 | <~Vornicus> | Fortunately face direction is a simple parity check |
| 00:52 | < Rhamphoryncus> | hmm? |
| 00:53 | <~Vornicus> | the in-row index of your face, mod 2, tells you which direction the face points. |
| 00:53 | < Rhamphoryncus> | ah, yes |
| 00:54 | < Rhamphoryncus> | But how should I present it? mixed rows? Alternating rows? All one direction, then all the other direction? |
| 00:54 | <~Vornicus> | I'd say mixed rows |
| 00:55 | < Rhamphoryncus> | My immediate use is to generate a random heightmap for the faces, then to produce a vertex heightmap using the average of the surrounding faces |
| 00:56 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Which.. would want mixed rows, but also an inverted form of mixed rows |
| 00:56 | < Rhamphoryncus> | no, wait :P |
| 00:57 | < Rhamphoryncus> | 9 rows of vertices, 8 rows of faces. That's just the two adjacent mixed rows |
| 00:59 | < Rhamphoryncus> | A vertex may get as little as 1 face or as 6 faces each from a different heightmap |
| 01:01 | < Rhamphoryncus> | and if I tried pushing that calculation to the GPU I'd need 15 heightmaps in texture units just to render one |
| 01:05 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Which is a pretty good justification for precalculating them for the GPU |
| 01:06 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I only have 16 texture image units to work with. Or 32, I still haven't figured that out |
| --- Log closed Fri Jun 08 01:19:05 2012 |
| --- Log opened Fri Jun 08 01:30:34 2012 |
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| 01:56 | < Rhamphoryncus> | hrm mixed rows means 3 different methods of indexing |
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| 02:10 | < celticminstrel> | Hm. Is a static variable in a member function equivalent to a class instance variable or a class static variable? |
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| 02:12 | < RichyB> | The most logically-consistent answer is class-static variable. |
| 02:15 | <~Vornicus> | oh, right, that's why I didn't ever get around to doing modding on torchlight - there's so much going on. |
| 02:21 | <&Derakon> | Howso? |
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| 02:42 | <~Vornicus> | I guess most of it is I forget how much data you need to make something like this. there's the functions that generate strength values for affixes, the arcana that is the map generator, the absolutely gargantuan transmute tables |
| 02:46 | < Rhamphoryncus> | yeah |
| 02:47 | < McMartin> | Belated: Yeah, class-static |
| 02:47 | < McMartin> | Also: Don't Do That, Use A Class-Static. |
| 02:48 | < Rhamphoryncus> | That's still global state, just out of the global namespace. Better to make it local state |
| 02:59 | < McMartin> | Global state is underrated |
| 03:00 | < celticminstrel> | I seem to remember getting errors before when having multiple declarations of a variable, where all but one are declared extern. It seems to work now though. Is that a new thing? |
| 03:00 | < McMartin> | It's the Zero-One-Infinity rule, not the Zero-Infinity rule. |
| 03:00 | < McMartin> | celticminstrel: Yoy may be accidentally namespacing some of them. That should still be a linker error. |
| 03:01 | < celticminstrel> | I don't think I was. |
| 03:01 | < celticminstrel> | I recall doing some preprocessor trickery to exclude the extern definition from the file that had the non-extern definition. |
| 03:01 | < celticminstrel> | But this isn't a project I looked at recently. |
| 03:01 | < celticminstrel> | So I can't remember too clearly... |
| 03:16 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I can't remember how that works either |
| 03:20 | < celticminstrel> | Why on earth is SDL_PollEvent causing a segfault. |
| 03:20 | < Rhamphoryncus> | not initialized/already cleaned up.. wrong thread.. |
| 03:21 | < celticminstrel> | Pretty sure it's none of those. It's the main thread, and it's after the init call and before the cleanup. |
| 03:22 | < celticminstrel> | And the event being passed for it to write to is a local variable. |
| 03:25 | < celticminstrel> | The actual location of the crash is an Objective-C runtime function. |
| 03:27 | < celticminstrel> | On an unrelated note, why am I even using shared_ptr if I need to call reset() to free it manually? |
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| 15:20 | < iofficespace> | having fun are we? |
| 15:29 | <@TheWatcher> | If by "fun" you mean "massive frustration", yes. |
| 15:31 | < iofficespace> | just remember |
| 15:32 | < iofficespace> | you could be running 60+ page long test docs |
| 15:32 | <@TheWatcher> | No |
| 15:33 | <@TheWatcher> | I'd write a fucking script to do that for me |
| 15:33 | < iofficespace> | oh i would too but most of it is "ok, get handle #X and use it in command Y" |
| 15:35 | < iofficespace> | aka shit that's not easily automated |
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| 22:29 | < celticminstrel> | Hm, so, can I use boost::lexical_cast to save and restore the state of a random number generator? |
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