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| 00:11 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
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| 00:14 | <&McM[travels]> | Hm. git branches look easy enough, though this document implies that fiddling with commits is done via interactive rebase and that looks like a nightmare |
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| 00:20 | < gnolam> | ... aaand that's the official tiredness point for tonight. |
| 00:20 | < gnolam> | Misreading "commits" as "commies". |
| 00:21 | <&McM[travels]> | Collaborative software development? |
| 00:21 | <&McM[travels]> | THAT'S COMMUNISM |
| 00:22 | < gnolam> | When you're developing alone, you're developing WITH HITLER. |
| 00:23 | <&McM[travels]> | Hm. |
| 00:23 | <&McM[travels]> | I guess, technically, this next release of Ophis should be 2.0 |
| 00:23 | <&McM[travels]> | Since it's technically not backwards-compatible |
| 00:23 | <&McM[travels]> | In that I'm removing a feature that nobody but me used and kind of didn't work anyway. |
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| 01:43 | < Rhamphoryncus> | When I was younger the whole self-perpetuating bureaucracy thing was sort of a joke. Nothing but a few anecdotes to back it up, so it was almost like a conspiracy theory. However, as I get older the anecdotes have turned into heaping mountains of anecdotes. It's not one thing in society with a massive bureaucracy, it's a million things with their own little bureaucracy |
| 02:04 | <&Derakon> | I don't find it particularly mysterious that someone whose job is to do X is going to try to justify that X needs to be done. |
| 02:05 | <&Derakon> | Which means that power structures of any type will tend to perpetuate themselves. |
| 02:12 | < gnolam> | And in the end, you get the Cube. |
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| 02:21 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Derakon: neither do I |
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| 02:41 | <@ToxicFrog> | McM[travels]: what do you mean by "fiddling with commits" here? |
| 02:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | And yeah, git branches are pretty straightforward, although I've seen some confusion from people coming from SVN's "each branch is its own dir" approach |
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| 06:24 | <&McM[travels]> | TF: Editing your commit history before pushing, squashing individual commits etc |
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| 14:32 | <@Tamber> | http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.unlink.php#104370 This... this explains a few things, I think. |
| 14:33 | <@Tamber> | It certainly gives some insight into the thought processes of PHP monkeys. "Doesn't work? Just pound on it some more!" |
| 14:36 | < froztbyte> | haha |
| 14:36 | < froztbyte> | amongst other things |
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| 15:21 | | * iofficespace sighs |
| 15:21 | < iofficespace> | testing is a royal pain! |
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| 15:38 | < RichyB> | iofficespace, testing is inevitable. |
| 15:38 | < RichyB> | If you have a QA phase then you get to do it before go-live. |
| 15:39 | < RichyB> | If you *dont* have a QA phase then you do your testing anyway, albeit with live users and real data and boy do they get pissy if it doesn't go perfectly first time. :) |
| 15:39 | < RichyB> | *don't |
| 15:40 | < iofficespace> | RichyB: ok, testing code yeah |
| 15:40 | < iofficespace> | what i'm doing is bitch work testing Dx |
| 15:40 | < RichyB> | Testing Dx? |
| 15:40 | < RichyB> | Or was that an emoticon? |
| 15:41 | < iofficespace> | emoticon |
| 15:41 | < iofficespace> | as in i have a 60+ page test document in front of me |
| 15:41 | < iofficespace> | that i have to go through the whole thing |
| 15:41 | < iofficespace> | (some of the tests i'm skipping cause they're hardware based) |
| 15:42 | < RichyB> | Fuck me that sounds tedious. |
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| 15:46 | < iofficespace> | RichyB: now you understand why i'm bitching? :P |
| 15:46 | < iofficespace> | oh and the best part? |
| 15:47 | < iofficespace> | three of the tests have automated scripts... out of 20-30 |
| 15:47 | < iofficespace> | -_- |
| 15:49 | < iofficespace> | oh and guess who wrote most of the nightly tests? this chick |
| 15:49 | < iofficespace> | this is just so we have a huge ass document saying HEY WE TESTED THIS and don't have to do log digging -_- |
| 15:49 | < iofficespace> | (also the nightly tests are using nightly builds, this is using a released version) |
| 15:51 | | * iofficespace is a coder, not a tester |
| 15:56 | < iofficespace> | but when certain thigns are running i have an excuse to screw around online ^_^ |
| 16:12 | < RichyB> | Useful, that. |
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| 16:21 | < iofficespace> | let me quote my screen right now: "aka Let the waiting begin..." |
| 16:24 | < gnolam> | iofficespace: /royal/ pain, you say? http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3k4noj28Y1r0o12to1_1280.jpg |
| 16:26 | < iofficespace> | hehe |
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| 17:12 | < froztbyte> | gnolam: that site is ridiculously relevant |
| 17:15 | < celticminstrel> | Bah, Boost's directory iterator constructor is throwing an exception now... |
| 17:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | :cpp: |
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| 18:12 | < celticminstrel> | Odd thing is, I don't see what's different from before... |
| 18:21 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Directory order changed? |
| 18:24 | < celticminstrel> | Hm? |
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| 18:53 | < celticminstrel> | ...duh, I changed the filename it was searching for. |
| 18:53 | < celticminstrel> | Whoops. |
| 18:55 | < celticminstrel> | Now I guess I need to decide whether to use an XML parser for the Info.plist, or the Cocoa methods... |
| 18:55 | < celticminstrel> | Or not use a plist. |
| 18:58 | <~Vornicus> | if it's a proper plist, use the cocoa methods, they'll be a lot more straightforward. |
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| 19:45 | < celticminstrel> | The thing is, I want to eventually build this for Windows. |
| 20:09 | < froztbyte> | use the jawas |
| 20:15 | < iofficespace> | ... |
| 20:36 | < celticminstrel> | Huhwhat? |
| 20:36 | < celticminstrel> | On another note, if I call [NSString stringWith*] do I need to release it when I'm done? |
| 20:39 | < celticminstrel> | Or is that only required if I explicitly allocate it with [NSString alloc]? |
| 20:51 | < froztbyte> | celticminstrel: I'm being facetious :) |
| 20:54 | < celticminstrel> | Seems the latter is the case. |
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| 21:53 | | * Rhamphoryncus concludes the opengl4 specs are broken wrt texture unit limits |
| 21:57 | <~Vornicus> | "broken" how? |
| 22:00 | < Rhamphoryncus> | GL_MAX_COMBINED_TEXTURE_IMAGE_UNITS vs GL_MAX_TEXTURE_IMAGE_UNITS (fragment shader) and GL_MAX_{VERTEX,GEOMETRY,TESS_CONTROL,TESS_EVALUATION}_TEXTURE_IMAGE_UNITS |
| 22:01 | < Rhamphoryncus> | combined seems to be the number of texture units, but seems to also do double duty as the limit of accesses |
| 22:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | So if the fragment shader accesses its limit of 16 and so does the vertex shader then that's already 32 |
| 22:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | but the explanation is so incredibly poor that I have no confidence in this |
| 22:03 | < Rhamphoryncus> | You could have all 5 stages accessing the same 6 texture units and that's already 30 accesses, even though you can have 32 texture units |
| 22:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Having those limits is fine, but why are they intrinsically linked like that? Why can't an implementation allow 64 accesses with 32 texture units and 16 in each stage? That part doesn't make sense |
| 22:07 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I'm not confident that this implementation will fail if I violate the limits either |
| 22:12 | < Rhamphoryncus> | if I do go over 32 the failure isn't indicated of a hardware limit. It's of an ABI limit. There's only enough GL_TEXTUREn defined for 32 and the next value is something else |
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