| --- Log opened Fri Apr 13 00:00:31 2012 |
| 00:01 | < Noah> | Uhg, cannot find my fraking headphones |
| 00:05 | <~Vornicus> | THey may be too busy fraking. |
| 00:09 | < Noah> | In my boarding bag: 8GB SanDisk USB, Casio fx-115 ES, a dime, two 0.5mm mechanical pencils, extra lead, extra erasers, eraser utensil, several DS games, an Action Replay device with USB cable, a DS lite... |
| 00:09 | < Noah> | an external hard drive with usb cable, a microfiber mitt, two pokewalkers, a multimeter, two jumper cables, a wallet for my store discount cards and BC powders, a graphing composition notebook, a USB power wall adapter for a Kindle, a casio ca-53w calculator watch, and a multitool... |
| 00:09 | < Noah> | and no headphones |
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| 00:15 | < Noah> | Guess I'll go check the van. |
| 00:16 | < Noah> | Since you all are useless twats with no tea or headphones |
| 00:23 | < Noah> | Ah hah, they were in my rolling backpack |
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| 00:38 | < Noah> | Is it weird that I really like lynx? |
| 00:38 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 00:38 | < Noah> | oh shi |
| 00:38 | <&McMartin> | Only in that I like elinks better |
| 00:38 | < Noah> | I'm on linux, I can find a gopher client |
| 00:38 | <&McMartin> | SHOCK HORROR.mp3 |
| 00:44 | < Noah> | Eh, I don't like elinks, and lynx has nice coloring |
| 00:48 | < Noah> | Wikipedia is fun in lynx. But someone should have it pass images through that ascii filter to make images, lol |
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| 01:03 | <~Vornicus> | ...now I'm wondering what SHOCK HORROR.mp3 sounds like |
| 01:08 | | Derakon[AFK] is now known as Derakon |
| 01:08 | <&Derakon> | Vorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g9WjcGdxuM |
| 01:09 | <~Vornicus> | ah of course |
| 01:29 | <&Derakon> | So getting back to parsing these resource files. |
| 01:29 | <&Derakon> | I have monster records, and monster template records. They're almost identical. |
| 01:30 | <&Derakon> | I could probably make it work that they actually map to the same class, which would then just have one function to intepret them as a template (and apply it to a monster instance) and another to interpret it as a monster (and generate a monster instance). |
| 01:30 | <&Derakon> | Or I could keep them as separate classes but make them share the same parsing logic. |
| 01:30 | <&Derakon> | Unfortunately that means writing something like this: ... |
| 01:31 | <&Derakon> | self.index, self.name, self.description, self.flags, self.blows, self.speed, self.hitpoints, self.evasion, self.absorption, ... = parseRecord(lines) |
| 01:33 | < Noah> | yay self |
| 01:33 | < Noah> | Oops, I mean, self.yay() |
| 01:36 | <&Derakon> | Anyway, suggestions? |
| 01:37 | < Noah> | no, soz |
| 01:39 | < gnolam> | ... is self.blows a boolean? |
| 01:40 | <&Derakon> | No, it's a list of melee attacks. |
| 01:40 | < gnolam> | Aww. |
| 01:40 | <&Derakon> | If it were a boolean, it would be self.doesBlow. |
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| 04:55 | <&McMartin> | "In terms of user experience, Facebook is like an NYPD police van crashing into an IKEA, forever" |
| 05:17 | <&Derakon> | Argh, circular dependency. |
| 05:34 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody|movie |
| 05:40 | | * Derakon eyes grep, wonders why "grep -E "^\s*#" isn't returning lines that have some whitespace before the first #. |
| 05:41 | <&McMartin> | Isn't \S whitespace? |
| 05:41 | <&McMartin> | It's been too long since I've PCREd |
| 05:41 | <&Derakon> | I think they both are. |
| 05:41 | <&Derakon> | In any event, using \S instead doesn't change the behavior visibly. |
| 05:42 | | * McMartin checks |
| 05:42 | <&McMartin> | Actually \S is *non-*whitespace |
| 05:42 | <&Derakon> | Heh. |
| 05:42 | <&McMartin> | Try -P~ |
| 05:43 | <&Derakon> | That gets me all comments and all blank lines. Weird. |
| 05:44 | <&McMartin> | Hrm |
| 05:44 | <&McMartin> | You didn't use the tilde, did you? |
| 05:44 | <&Derakon> | No, I assumed that was intonation. |
| 05:44 | <&McMartin> | Yeah |
| 05:44 | <&McMartin> | My man page for grep -P says "highly experimental" |
| 05:45 | <&McMartin> | It might be a bug |
| 05:45 | <&Derakon> | Mine just says "Interpret PATTERN as a Perl regular expression." |
| 05:45 | <&McMartin> | But -E isn't PCRE, it turns out |
| 05:57 | <@rms> | Derakon: What was it returning? |
| 05:58 | <@rms> | Because it works for me |
| 05:58 | <&Derakon> | Just the lines that had a # as the first character. |
| 05:58 | <&Derakon> | I.e. no whitespace between beginning-of-line and the first comment character. |
| 05:58 | <@rms> | You want \s+ then |
| 05:58 | <&Derakon> | Didn't work either. |
| 05:58 | <@rms> | * is 0 or more, + is one or more |
| 05:58 | <&McMartin> | It's the "or more" that is breaking for him. |
| 05:58 | <&Derakon> | Yes, I know that. |
| 05:59 | <&Derakon> | + is not interpreted correctly; I get no output with "^\s+#". |
| 05:59 | <&Derakon> | (I have plenty of experience with regexes, but they tend to be finicky at the best of times) |
| 06:00 | <@rms> | Are you testing against a file that you know should be returning something? |
| 06:00 | <&Derakon> | Yes. |
| 06:00 | <@rms> | $ grep --version |
| 06:00 | <@rms> | grep (GNU grep) 2.10 |
| 06:00 | <@rms> | (I'm having no issues) |
| 06:00 | <&Derakon> | grep (GNU grep) 2.5.1 |
| 06:00 | <&Derakon> | Yes, you said |
| 06:03 | <@rms> | All I can suggest is upgrade |
| 06:04 | <&Derakon> | That seems unlikely to work seeing as I already have a newer version than you do. |
| 06:04 | <&Derakon> | Oh, wait, no. |
| 06:04 | <&Derakon> | Stupid two-digit minor version numbers. |
| 06:21 | < Noah> | lol |
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| 10:56 | <@TheWatcher> | Ugh, maybe I shouldn't be coding before my first mug of tea... |
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| 11:44 | < froztbyte> | haha |
| 11:45 | < froztbyte> | TheWatcher: 'tis all that perl doing it to your brain ;P |
| 11:55 | <@TheWatcher> | Also, I am full of hate for HTML5 video |
| 12:06 | < Tarinaky> | http://www.scoopshot.com/hiring-developer/ |
| 12:11 | <@TheWatcher> | Pft |
| 12:11 | < Tarinaky> | I'm trying to work out if it's better to go through the consecutive digits of pi looking for odd palindromes and -then- find out if they're prime. |
| 12:12 | < Tarinaky> | Actually, yeah. That's the only way to do it. |
| 13:14 | < Stalker> | <TheWatcher> Also, I am full of hate for HTML5 video <- Why? |
| 13:15 | <@TheWatcher> | Because the fucking browser writers are utterly incapable of agreeing on a common standard |
| 13:17 | < Stalker> | I thought any HTML5 video was the <video> tag, and that webm and the h264 thing was just their twitching nerves and unwillingness to conform to something already agreed upon. |
| 13:21 | <@TheWatcher> | Nope. The spec used to recommend ogg theora for video, and vorbis for audio |
| 13:21 | < Stalker> | Oh. |
| 13:21 | <@TheWatcher> | then apple and nokia (at least) threw a hissyfit |
| 13:22 | <@TheWatcher> | so now, there's h.264, VP8, and Ogg Theora for video, and no consistent support across browsers |
| 13:23 | <@TheWatcher> | (generally, any browser that supports vp8 supports ogg, too, but generally won't support h.264. Those that support h.264 have patchy support for ogg and vp8!) |
| 13:24 | <@TheWatcher> | So you need to provide at least two video formats. Three (flash video), if you want to target any version of IE before 9. |
| 13:28 | < Stalker> | I figure it'll all be settled in a year or two. |
| 13:30 | <@TheWatcher> | Some of use don't have that, unfortunately. |
| 13:38 | < gnolam> | It'll all be settled when MPEG LA decides it's baited enough and starts collecting juicy licensing fees. :P |
| 13:50 | <@TheWatcher> | Because that worked so well to stop people using gifs~ |
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| 14:50 | | * TheWatcher arghs, stabs people in work |
| 14:51 | <@TheWatcher> | Wasting my fucking time on wild goose chases, bloody twazzocks |
| 14:53 | < Stalker> | I've never really understood that expression. Is it the goose that is wild, or the chase? |
| 14:54 | <~Vornicus> | Yes. |
| 15:05 | <@rms> | Stalker: ever seen Hot Fuzz? |
| 15:05 | < Stalker> | Possibly. |
| 15:05 | <@rms> | Geese are hard to catch, presumably a wild one would be more so |
| 15:10 | < Rhamphoryncus> | On foot no less |
| 15:11 | < Rhamphoryncus> | As soon as it sees you coming it'll either swim to deeper water or take off. Probably avoids any sort of cover, so you won't be able to sneak up on it |
| 15:12 | < Rhamphoryncus> | So: lots of effort but a big waste of time |
| 16:11 | < Stalker> | Shoot it? |
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| 17:59 | <@Tamber> | "Wild goose chase?" "Howitzer." |
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| 18:59 | | * Rhamphoryncus attempts pixel art |
| 18:59 | | * Rhamphoryncus makes babies cry |
| 19:04 | < Noah> | And here, a new entry in my Pixel Art Museum, "babies cry" by a one Rhamphorync-- ma'am? Ma'am?! MA'AM! I NEED YOU TO QUIET YOUR CHILD DOWN PLEASE, THIS IS A MUSEUM! |
| 19:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | LOL |
| 19:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | step one: randomly place pixels in desired shape |
| 19:04 | < Rhamphoryncus> | step two: ... |
| 19:05 | < Noah> | step three: deltaco |
| 19:07 | | Kindamoody is now known as Kindamoody[zZz] |
| 19:19 | < Rhamphoryncus> | By adding lighting I can see, umm, light at the end of the tunnel :P |
| 19:19 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Still rather amorphous, but that's better than just pixel noise |
| 19:20 | < Rhamphoryncus> | btw, I'm drawing a pile of beets from a distance |
| 19:20 | < Rhamphoryncus> | So it is just random pixels in the right shape :) |
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| 23:32 | <~Vornicus> | For the record I am a sad case: I've been trying to create some D&D characters the past few days and instead I've found myself building a D&D character creation app. |
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| 23:40 | <@rms> | Ha |
| 23:40 | <@rms> | I've been trying to do that for Exalted, but the rules are much more complicated :/ |
| 23:41 | <&McMartin> | White Wolf can't code a game system to save their damned lives |
| 23:41 | <@rms> | So I'm told |
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