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00:52 | < gnolam> | Analog readout... check. |
00:52 | < gnolam> | Pressure sensor... check. |
00:52 | < gnolam> | Mwahaha. |
00:52 | < gnolam> | MWAHAHAHAHAHA |
00:56 | < maoranma> | Quantum spacial coupling... nominal (or not). |
01:00 | <&McMartin> | Fizba wizh? |
01:58 | <&McMartin> | Man, what the heck |
01:58 | <&McMartin> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digi-Comp_I |
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02:46 | < maoranma> | 119 nickles... and thems were 1960's nickles. |
02:47 | < maoranma> | Now $5 can buy you a functional computer |
02:47 | < maoranma> | three bit readout, haha |
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02:48 | < maoranma> | So it could count to seven |
02:53 | < maoranma> | Hmm...I just remembered that mIRC uses DDE...so I should be able to script DDE in Python with the proper module, giving me some better control... |
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03:01 | < maoranma> | There's also SendMessage(), but that is vastly more complicated than DDE apparently |
03:04 | <~Vornicus> | the original Schlock used DDE to communicate with Python. |
03:07 | < maoranma> | I'll look into it later, but I think they'll be the way I go with it. |
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03:27 | | * Vornicus tries to remember his github login |
03:28 | <~Vornicus> | ah, there we are |
03:28 | <~Vornicus> | okay |
03:35 | < celticminstrel> | DDE? |
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12:02 | < thalass> | good evenink |
12:09 | < Stalker> | Murrr. |
12:25 | <@Alek> | sup thally boy? |
12:26 | <@Alek> | how's mel and the pupa? |
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12:40 | < thalass> | Mel is good, and the kids are asleep so everything is good now haha |
12:43 | <@Alek> | don't see ya around much. |
13:11 | < thalass> | I've been around |
13:12 | < thalass> | :P |
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20:27 | <&Derakon> | Man, porting this program to Windows is proving irritating... |
20:28 | <&Derakon> | Computer A generates files that represent jobs, uploads those files and some scripts to computer B, and submits them to a queue to be run. |
20:28 | <&Derakon> | Which worked just fine when both computers were *nix/OSX boxes. |
20:29 | <&Derakon> | But now I'm having to deal with path separator incompatibilities, a different temporary-file directory, line terminator mangling... |
20:29 | <&Derakon> | Bleh. |
20:31 | < RichyB> | There are libraries for handling this kind of nonsense. I don't know what the usual suspects are for C. |
20:31 | <&Derakon> | (To clarify, ordinarily only one of these -- the temporary-file directory -- would be an issue because the program uses libraries to get the appropriate values for its local OS) |
20:31 | < RichyB> | At a guess, how about trying "apr", the Apache Portable Runtime? |
20:31 | <&Derakon> | (The problem comes when it tries to use those same values for a different OS. |
20:31 | <&Derakon> | I'm in Python. |
20:32 | < RichyB> | Oh. Doesn't using os.path magically make everything work? |
20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | Derakon: path seperators are consistent across OSes (use /), and both shoud support $TEMP |
20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh wait no |
20:32 | < RichyB> | Windows calls it %TMP% or something like that. |
20:33 | <&Derakon> | Oh, yeah, and Windows uses %HOMEPATH% instead of $HOME. |
20:33 | < RichyB> | But there's a tmpfile module in the standard library. |
20:33 | <&Derakon> | There is? I should check that out. |
20:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | Windows calls it %TEMP% and Linux calls it nothing except on some distros that set $TEMP. |
20:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | Windows does have OME% last time I looked. |
20:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | %HOME% |
20:33 | <&Derakon> | os.getenv('HOME') was returning None for me. |
20:34 | < RichyB> | Derakon, use mkdtemp for temporary directories http://docs.python.org/library/tempfile.html#tempfile.mkdtemp |
20:34 | <&Derakon> | Cool, thanks. |
20:35 | < RichyB> | Use `os.path` lots. That gets around the path separators, absolute paths and so on. |
20:36 | <&Derakon> | I do use os.path religiously. |
20:36 | <&Derakon> | But I had two problems. |
20:36 | <&Derakon> | First, I tried to use the same path locally and remotely (replicating a directory structure) without fixing the separators. |
20:36 | <&Derakon> | Second, I encoded paths into files and then tried to read those files on the remote OS. |
20:36 | < RichyB> | Ah, yes, that's going to be a problem. |
20:37 | < RichyB> | Can you use a flat directory structure and put only basenames of files (rather than whole paths) in? |
20:37 | <&Derakon> | So now I have separate variables for local and remote paths and I have to know which one to use where -- makes the code a bit messier. |
20:37 | <&Derakon> | I could but then the remote setup would be messier. |
20:37 | <&Derakon> | And while this is technically not something users should be mucking around in manually I'd still like to keep it clean. |
20:38 | < RichyB> | It's probably easier to rethink it so that you don't care about the remote directory layout than to rethink it so that you correctly distinguish local vs remote directories. |
20:38 | <&Derakon> | Well, I've already done the latter~ |
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