| --- Log opened Mon Jun 13 00:00:56 2011 |
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| 01:13 | <@McMartin> | Hrm. |
| 01:13 | <@McMartin> | THe more I dig into scala, the less I like it. =/ |
| 01:13 | <@McMartin> | That's a pity. |
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| 01:28 | < ToxicFrog> | Oh? |
| 01:32 | <@McMartin> | It's moving away from "all-powerful hybrid" and towards "monstrous chimera" and inherits all the disadvantages of its sources instead of all its advantages. |
| 01:33 | <@McMartin> | More specifically: I cannot see anything I would use this for that I could not use Python for. |
| 01:33 | <@McMartin> | Actors are kind of neat but I could probably whip up an equivalent in Python in a few hours. |
| 01:39 | | * Derakon eyes this copy of Brahms' third symphony his dad sent him. |
| 01:39 | <@Derakon> | 3BRAHM~1.M4A |
| 01:39 | <@McMartin> | \o/ |
| 01:39 | <@Derakon> | I thought that filename convention went out with Windows 3.1. |
| 01:39 | <@McMartin> | Nah, it's still there, do dir /x to see it |
| 01:39 | <@Derakon> | Uh, on OSX here. |
| 01:41 | <@McMartin> | OK, on Windows, all files that don't fit 8.3 semantics actually have two filenames |
| 01:41 | <@McMartin> | And there is a *hilarious* backwards compatibility mechanic that preserves the mapping for 10-15 seconds post-file deletion. |
| 01:42 | <@Derakon> | ... |
| 01:42 | <@Derakon> | Oookay. |
| 01:42 | <@McMartin> | (So if you delete reallylongfilename.txt and then rename something to really~1.txt, it will in fact rename it to reallylongfilename.txt) |
| 01:42 | <@McMartin> | (Some installers actually depend on this, because delete-rename is how you're *supposed* to do file updates in MS-DOS) |
| 01:43 | <@Derakon> | (Also, he forgot to give me the first movement. :() |
| 02:00 | < ToxicFrog> | McMartin: interesting. For me it's the opposite. |
| 02:00 | < ToxicFrog> | "I could probably do this in Python, but <3 static typing <3" |
| 02:01 | <@McMartin> | I think my static typing ruts are strong enough that I'd just bust out the Java or Haskell as needed. |
| 02:01 | <@McMartin> | (It's worth noting I started seriously looking at this because I started messing with Android programming and wanted to see how the interop would work. Answer: lol to the no) |
| 02:06 | < ToxicFrog> | (What's wrong with it? I've heard of people using Scala for Android dev, but never tried it myself) |
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| 02:09 | <@McMartin> | (Generally, batshit build and deployment requirements means I'd have to reverse-engineer both workflows to make it work. Scala classfiles don't directly run in a stock JVM without support from unspecified bits of Scala runtime.) |
| 02:15 | < ToxicFrog> | (Er? Add "scala-library.jar" to your CLASSPATH and it just works. Or at least, it did when I tried it last summer.) |
| 02:17 | <@McMartin> | (I've been getting classpath issues up the ass even running the stock tutorials >_<) |
| 02:17 | <@McMartin> | (This is to say nothing of the horrible deployment situation on Iodine, but Carlsbad is doing a bit better at it) |
| 02:17 | < ToxicFrog> | ;.; |
| --- Log closed Mon Jun 13 02:24:10 2011 |
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