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| 00:38 | <@Kazriko> | gnolam, Yeah. Even code I did write could use autocomplete. I need to figure out how to make Eclipse's autocomplete work better. |
| 00:38 | <@Kazriko> | With code I touch every day, it's not necessarily helpful, but for class definitions I might touch once every 2 months... |
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| 02:56 | <@Derakon> | So hey, someone's been working on making an Arduino board that plays back NES tool-assisted speedruns on an actual NES. |
| 02:56 | <@Derakon> | For example, Super Mario Bros. 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eY9VBGfKFsM |
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| 03:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | Derakon: that is pretty sweet. |
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| 16:33 | < Tarinaky> | http://andrewvos.com/2011/02/21/amount-of-profanity-in-git-commit-messages-per-p rogramming-language/ |
| 16:34 | < Tamber> | hah |
| 16:34 | < Tarinaky> | I think it says everything about the languages. |
| 16:34 | < Tarinaky> | That or PHP programmers don't use version control. |
| 16:35 | < Tamber> | That would explain a lot. :p |
| 16:42 | <@jerith> | Most PHP programmers don't. |
| 16:43 | <@jerith> | s/PHP // |
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| 16:49 | < Tamber> | "What do you mean tar isn't version control?! D:<" |
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| 16:56 | < Tarinaky> | Version control: burn everyone elses harddisk until only yours remains and proclaim it to be the one and only correct transcription of the word of God. |
| 16:57 | < Tamber> | hehe |
| 16:57 | <@jerith> | Tamber: You're a Visual Basic programmer, I take it? |
| 16:57 | < Tamber> | Ouch, that hurts. :p |
| 16:57 | | * Tamber flings some COBOL at jerith |
| 16:58 | <@jerith> | COBOL. ;_; |
| 16:58 | < Tamber> | It's not that bad, at least, not after you have the lobotomy. |
| 17:00 | < gnolam> | At least COBOL is exceedingly rare nowadays. |
| 17:00 | < gnolam> | Not like FORTRAN, which soldiers on. |
| 17:01 | < Tamber> | gnolam, what's scary is that people are still adding to COBOL. <.< |
| 17:01 | < Tarinaky> | Like the Zombies in Quake? Thou canst not kill what doth not live... only blast it into little chunks :D |
| 17:01 | < Tamber> | hehe |
| 17:02 | < Tamber> | (Well, OpenCOBOL, at least. o.o) |
| 17:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'm surprised at Java's postion in that chart. |
| 17:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | But not at all surprised by C++ and JavaScript. |
| 17:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | Also - COBOL is not at all rare these days. It's probably more widely used than FORTRAN. It's just well-contained. |
| 17:45 | < gnolam> | It might still be deployed in a lot of places. But in systems where nobody will even /try/ touching the code (e.g. old banking mainframes). |
| 17:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
| 17:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | If you're using the metric "amount of code written per unit time", yeah, Fortran is probably well above COBOL. |
| 17:47 | < gnolam> | FORTRAN OTOH is still actively coded in. Not only does it seem to be the basis of pretty much every heavy number crunching app besides MATLAB, it's still the language of choice for a whole lot of simulation work. |
| 17:47 | < gnolam> | ... exactly. |
| 17:48 | < gnolam> | (For example, every astrophysicist I've ever talked to used FORTRAN in his/her daily work) |
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| 17:53 | <@ToxicFrog> | At least F90 isn't a terrible language, just a bit clunky. |
| 17:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | (well, ok, a lot clunky. But I'd rather use F9x than COBOL.) |
| 17:56 | <@jerith> | FORTRAN has some very useful properties that make it particularly well-suited to numerical work. |
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| 20:13 | < Vornucopia> | I'm looking for a term of art: when given input, you should try to accept stuff even if it doesn't /quite/ match your spec; however, whenever you give output, you should match the spec as closely as possible. |
| 20:14 | < RichardBarrell> | Be conservative in what you send, be generous in what you accept. |
| 20:15 | < RichardBarrell> | I have the wording slightly wrong, but the correct text is in one of the cultural informational RFCs. It is part of IETF culture. |
| 20:15 | < Vornucopia> | Yeah, I was hoping for something a little more, uh. Concise. |
| 20:18 | < RichardBarrell> | It is called the robustness principle. |
| 20:18 | < RichardBarrell> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robustness_principle |
| 20:20 | < Vornucopia> | THank you. |
| 20:25 | < Vornucopia> | It is now cheese fries o'clock. |
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| 21:51 | | * Vornucopia manages to figure out what the multiplication drill side has to do, gets all the code except the results thingy in there. |
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| 21:54 | < Vornucopia> | Now I have to rewrite the original so that it calls those functions instead of doing it itself, and then I think I can get to work on other drills. |
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| 23:01 | < Alek> | http://notalwaysright.com/a-phone-that-rises-to-the-challenge/10313 |
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