| --- Log opened Tue Feb 22 00:00:22 2011 |
| --- Day changed Tue Feb 22 2011 |
| 00:00 | < Namegduf> | I just started up my desktop replacement laptop on battery. |
| 00:00 | < Namegduf> | It ran for three minutes then suspended itself due to critical battery status. |
| 00:01 | < Tamber> | A bit power-hungry, then? |
| 00:01 | < Namegduf> | Yes. |
| 00:01 | < Namegduf> | The battery is also basically dead. |
| 00:01 | < Namegduf> | It used to run for an hour. |
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| 00:30 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 00:31 | | * Alek twitches. |
| 00:31 | < Alek> | that... is a little excessive, as power consumption goes. |
| 00:32 | < Alek> | a standard laptop, with good settings, should get at least 5 hours. |
| 00:32 | < Alek> | AT LEAST. |
| 00:32 | < Namegduf> | ...not two years ago. |
| 00:32 | < Namegduf> | Well, three now. |
| 00:33 | < Alek> | even 10 years ago, laptops could expect at least 4 to 5 hours. |
| 00:33 | < Namegduf> | No, they couldn't. |
| 00:33 | < Namegduf> | Average laptops had 3-4 hours unless you were paying for fancy ultraportables. |
| 00:33 | < Alek> | I remember looking at laptops 15 years ago. Which could run for at least 3 hours. |
| 00:33 | < Namegduf> | I think you may be extrapolating from insufficient data. |
| 00:33 | < Namegduf> | I remember looking at laptops when I bought this laptop. |
| 00:34 | < Namegduf> | Advertising silly hours was common, but it's only recently they've ever been able to actually do them. |
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| 00:34 | < Namegduf> | Reviews regularly tested them doing things like word processing and web browsing and got 3-4 hours. |
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| 03:34 | < kwsn\blargh> | http://sovxroux.tumblr.com/photo/1280/3375672409/1/tumblr_lgskfuypXS1qg9cwm |
| 03:35 | < kwsn\blargh> | -stamps TRUTH on that- |
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| 13:59 | < gnolam> | http://i.imgur.com/lZd0q.jpg |
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| 15:25 | < celticminstrel> | Do sockets lack a timeout setting by default? Should I be calling socket.settimeout to set one? |
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| 16:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | celticminstrel: don't know the language, but in most cases yes, that is correct. |
| 16:59 | < celticminstrel> | What sort of timeout is normal? Thirty seconds too short or too long? |
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| 17:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | Depends on what you're doing. |
| 17:02 | < celticminstrel> | IRC bot. |
| 17:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | 30s is probably ok then |
| 17:33 | <@Vornicus-Latens> | (if on the other hand you're building a realtime game or something, 2s might be nearly too long.) |
| 17:42 | < celticminstrel> | Good to know, since I have ideas to that effect floating around. :P |
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| 18:27 | < Phox> | Hey, is there a standard library in C that allows timer resolution greater than 1 second? |
| 18:27 | < Phox> | Err, time resolution, rather |
| 18:27 | < Phox> | I need to know the system time to at least 100 milliseconds |
| 18:29 | < Phox> | As it is, I'm using GetSystemTime for seconds, and then Delay(.1). That has an obvious flaw, though |
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| 18:35 | < celticminstrel> | I think the closest to a standard library in C for timers would be POSIX, not stdc. |
| 18:36 | < celticminstrel> | Though I could be wrong. |
| 18:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | Phox: in POSIX? clock_gettime() (replacing gettimeofday()) and nanosleep() (replacing usleep()) |
| 18:46 | <@ToxicFrog> | You're not going to find anything in ANSI. |
| 18:49 | < Phox> | Yeah, just getting it right now. Thanks |
| 18:59 | < gnolam> | What are you using it for? |
| 19:01 | < Phox> | I have to timestamp an automated test. |
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| 19:21 | <@McMartin> | POSIX systems will usually have 10ms resolution |
| 19:22 | <@McMartin> | If you're on Windows and use the kernel32 calls (which escape me at the moment) they will usually have 1ms resolution |
| 19:22 | <@McMartin> | In each case because that's the timeslice. |
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| 22:59 | < Reiv> | Windows has smaller timeslices? |
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| 23:11 | < Phox> | r this |
| 23:11 | < Phox> | Damn, kicked mid-sentence |
| 23:12 | < gnolam> | So. What's a good Python IDE nowadays? |
| 23:12 | < Tarinaky> | Eclipse is pretty good. |
| 23:14 | < gnolam> | I have... bad experiences with Eclipse. |
| 23:14 | < Tarinaky> | Who doesn't? |
| 23:14 | < gnolam> | +had |
| 23:15 | <@Vornicus> | gnolam: I've never IDE'd with Python. |
| 23:16 | < gnolam> | Once you get used to proper autocompletion, it's hard to go back. :P |
| 23:16 | | * gnolam hugs IntelliSense. |
| 23:16 | < Namegduf> | I've never liked autocompletion myself. |
| 23:18 | < gnolam> | Why? |
| 23:18 | < gnolam> | It doesn't just save on typing - more importantly, it saves on looking up definitions. |
| 23:19 | <@Vornicus> | I find actually that autocomplete often slows me down - I have to actually look at what I'm typing and think further than "I know the name of the thing I want!" |
| 23:22 | < gnolam> | That's fine if you're perfectly certain of that name. So if it's all your own code, written reasonably recently, sure. It doesn't matter much. |
| 23:23 | < gnolam> | But when you're digging through classes 10 levels of inheritance down, in a codebase of approximately a gazillion files, of code you didn't write... it's a godsend. |
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| 23:31 | < Alek> | ... |
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| --- Log closed Wed Feb 23 00:00:33 2011 |