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| 01:54 | | * Reiver pokes the internet. |
| 01:54 | <~Reiver> How on earth do you find phpBB plugins? |
| 02:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | No idea. |
| 02:10 | < celticminstrel> | Try the phpBB site? |
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| 02:53 | <~Reiver> Meh, turns out it's style-based. |
| 02:53 | <~Reiver> Which is kinda lame, but I will live. |
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| 03:23 | < simon_> | plugins are dependent on styles? |
| 03:23 | < simon_> | sound ugly. |
| 03:23 | < simon_> | sounds ugly. |
| 03:32 | <~Reiver> I was trying to find if there was a way to set codeblocks to not include scrollbars, instead just leaving all the code in all its glory instead of having a little scrolling window. |
| 03:32 | <~Reiver> Turns out how codeblocks are handled is stylebased. |
| 03:46 | < Vornicus> | So there's an overflow thing that says what it does when it runs out of room. |
| 03:59 | < simon_> | Reiver, that seems reasonable. |
| 03:59 | <~Reiver> Vorn: Apparently, yeah. |
| 04:00 | <~Reiver> This means if I want to have my entire codeblock at once, I need to stick to a style that allows it. |
| 04:06 | < celticminstrel> | Or tweak a style to allow it. :P |
| 04:08 | < simon_> | do you get castrated for asking Maple questions here? :) |
| 04:08 | < celticminstrel> | No idea. |
| 04:08 | < celticminstrel> | I know I wouldn't. |
| 04:08 | < celticminstrel> | That said, I don't know much about Maple. |
| 04:09 | < simon_> | I'm trying to restrict the domain of a function that I'm plot3d'ing. |
| 04:09 | < celticminstrel> | That sounds like something I knew, once. |
| 04:09 | < simon_> | I've got plot3d(f_expr, x=a..b, y=c..d), but it seems there's no room for adding the restraint. |
| 04:11 | < simon_> | I suppose I could define a f_expr as a parameterised function, but it seems bulky. |
| 04:15 | < celticminstrel> | Which restraint is there no room for? |
| 04:19 | < simon_> | 0 <= x <= 2, x-2 <= y <= x |
| 04:19 | < simon_> | but plot3d(f, x=0..2, y=(x-2)..x) seems to work. |
| 04:20 | < simon_> | I don't fully understand the lexical scope of Maple. |
| 04:26 | < simon_> | hmm |
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| 07:19 | < Vornicus> | gah. Why always logic puzzles in my head. I want to write them! I do not have the foggiest idea how to generate the actual puzzles! |
| 07:35 | <@ToxicFrog> | What sort of puzzles? For some stuff you can use a solver to generate a complete puzzle from scratch, then erase parts of it (sudoku and other numbersquare problems, for example) |
| 07:38 | < Vornicus> | http://www.puzzle-dominosa.com/ <--- stuff like this for instance. Or Kaser's "Sherlock", which is a classic logic puzzle, you get clues and you use them to make deductions in a big grid. |
| 07:41 | < Vornicus> | Which are I admit two entirely different classes of logic puzzle. |
| 07:44 | < Vornicus> | The dominosa one, for instance, I know it's possible to have boards that don't have a unique solution -- indeed, all possible boards with just 0 0, 0 1, and 1 1 are ambiguous. |
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| 09:45 | < thalass> | ahoy |
| 09:47 | < thalass> | damnit. I'm having noob problems again. |
| 09:48 | < thalass> | I'm sure i've compiled software on this machine before, since i reinstalled ubuntu, but ./configure doesn't do anything. Just says there's no such file or directory. |
| 10:04 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 10:05 | < Vornicus-Latens> | Some programs roll their configuration system into the makefile. |
| 10:05 | <@TheWatcher> | thalass: it's possible that you have a development snapshot rather than a release one? Try running `autoconf` and see if it'll generate it - and have you checked the INSTALL file? |
| 10:06 | < Vornicus-Latens> | Try "make" and see what happens. |
| 10:06 | <@TheWatcher> | or that, yeah |
| 10:11 | < thalass> | "autoconf" command isn't found, and refers to a package from the repos. "make" gets me "no targets specified and no makefile found" |
| 10:12 | < thalass> | there is a 'configure.ac' file, but i either get "permission denied" or "command not found" depending on whether i sudo or not. |
| 10:12 | <@TheWatcher> | configure.ac is an input file for autoconf |
| 10:12 | < thalass> | ( http://codebutler.com/firesheep ) that's the software i'm trying to build, btw |
| 10:12 | <@TheWatcher> | you'll need to install the autoconf/automake package to convert that to a configure file |
| 10:12 | < thalass> | thanks |
| 10:15 | < thalass> | hrm. autoconf tells me "error: possibly undefined macro: AM_CONDITIONAL. But now ./configure works well enough to tell me it can't find 'install-sh, install.sh, or shtool" bah |
| 10:26 | < thalass> | Oh hang on. The last sentence of the webpage states "linux support is on the way". >.< |
| 10:28 | < thalass> | Though all the commands and such in the INSTALL document look like linux (or unix, at least) ones. |
| 10:52 | <@TheWatcher> | probably for OSX, then |
| 11:19 | | * thalass facepalm |
| 11:19 | < thalass> | heh |
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| 16:44 | < ErikMesoy> | I'm attempting to >cd "System Volume Information" on a Windows XP command line to get at a corrupt file and getting back "Access denied". I'm fairly certain that I'm on the administrator account, as I'm on the sole and original account for this computer. >runas is asking for an administrator password which I never set, and Google suggests there is no default administrator password. Help? |
| 16:45 | < Tarinaky> | ErikMesoy: You can't access that folder on a live system. |
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| 17:06 | < Stalker> | http://support.microsoft.com/kb/309531 ? |
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| 17:11 | < Stalker> | This is actually what showed up when I typed "System Volume Information" in my explorer address bar on Vista. |
| 17:12 | < Stalker> | I'm pretty sure XP does that too. |
| 17:14 | < Harrower> | I get a google search if I type in that, and if I type in the actual location of SVI I get an 'access denied'. But thanks, that seems like it will help. |
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| 17:18 | < ToxicFrog`> | Stalker: so try that. |
| 17:18 | < ToxicFrog`> | Alternately, use a liveCD. |
| 17:18 | < ToxicFrog`> | Also, why exactly are you trying to access this? |
| 17:19 | < Stalker> | Try what? |
| 17:19 | < Stalker> | The thingie works. |
| 17:19 | < Harrower> | I'm trying to access it. |
| 17:19 | < Harrower> | There's a file in that directory that's tripping up my filesystem scanner. |
| 17:19 | < Stalker> | I enabled, entered, and disabled access both through exploder and CACLS. |
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| 17:34 | < ToxicFrog> | Harrower: "tripping up"? "filesystem scanner"? |
| 17:37 | < Harrower> | I have Avira Antivirus set to perform a complete system scan at 2AM once a week. It gets to 96% complete and then barfs on a file deep in C/System Volume Information and is grinding when I get to the computer in the morning. |
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| 17:45 | < ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 17:45 | < ToxicFrog> | Wouldn't it be a better idea to run fsck before rummaging around in there by hand? |
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| 18:43 | | * Derakon mutters at this code, and at OpenGL. |
| 18:44 | <@Derakon> | For some reason OpenGL is throwing an "invalid operation" error at me when this code tries to call glNewList. |
| 18:44 | <@Derakon> | It is, naturally, very ugly code, so I'd like to get away with a minimum of "what is it actually doing". |
| 18:45 | <@Derakon> | Unfortunately OpenGL's errors are not exactly what I would call verbose, so I have no idea why it's an invalid operation. Presumably something done earlier put it into the wrong context to accept that particular call. |
| 18:45 | | * Namegduf is trying to learn how to use OpenGL. |
| 18:45 | <@Derakon> | I don't supposoe there's some way to get a log of OpenGL calls made in a given program? |
| 18:46 | <@Derakon> | So I could trace what the program's asking it to do? |
| 18:47 | <@Derakon> | Namegduf: the NeHe demos are fairly useful. |
| 18:48 | < gnolam> | Legacy hardware, or why are you using display lists? |
| 18:48 | <@Derakon> | Legacy software. |
| 18:48 | <@Derakon> | But what's the modern recommended approach? FBOs? |
| 18:48 | < Namegduf> | I'm still working on the matrix transformations to get things relative to each other and position the camera. |
| 18:49 | < Namegduf> | So the conceptual side rather than the implementation. |
| 18:49 | <@Derakon> | Ahh, then your issues are likely to be more with matrix math than OpenGL itself. :) |
| 18:49 | <@Derakon> | Good luck. |
| 18:49 | < Namegduf> | Yeah. |
| 18:49 | < gnolam> | VBOs. FBOs are a replacement for all the other "render to texture" methods (pbuffers etc). |
| 18:49 | < Namegduf> | It's not too hard, but interesting as something I've not worked with before. |
| 18:50 | <@Derakon> | Gnolam: okay, will keep in mind next time I write something new that has dependencies I can actually control. |
| 18:50 | < gnolam> | Anyway. AFAIK, the only thing that could make glNewList throw a GL_INVALID_OPERATION error is if it's in an immediate mode drawing state (i.e. after glBegin()) or if you're trying to nest lists. |
| 18:51 | <@Derakon> | It looks like I have a separate exception being thrown by some other display-list-creating code, caused by a failed import. |
| 18:51 | <@Derakon> | I'd guess if I fix that then I'll have the other bit fixed too. |
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| 19:15 | <@Derakon> | Yep, I was right. |
| 19:15 | <@Derakon> | I wonder why the previous developer didn't print detailed information in his "I caught an exception and now will fail" code. |
| 19:16 | <@Derakon> | It's just try: something; catch: print "Whoops it broke" |
| 19:27 | <@Derakon> | Anyway, now I can stop worrying about that particular boondoggle. |
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