| --- Log opened Wed May 05 00:00:52 2010 |
| 00:20 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 00:25 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
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| 01:39 | < Rhamphoryncus> | ahhh programming. So much code just to replace a 1 with a 2 |
| 01:42 | <@ToxicFrog> | ? |
| 01:44 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Really there's a lot of information associated with that change |
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| 01:44 | < Rhamphoryncus> | And it's actually a bitfield. 0x1 vs 0x2 |
| 01:45 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Another example replaces 0x2aa1 with 0x4aa1 |
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| 02:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | Why does this require such wide-ranging changes? |
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| 03:00 | | * Vornicus returns |
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| 04:12 | <@Derakon> | Hee. Bugs in early releases of Zork: http://tasvideos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9461&highlight= |
| 04:12 | <@Derakon> | "In fact, as Ethan Dicks has pointed out, virtually anything can be given to the troll (or thief) in this version: your hands, your eyes, the eastern wall, a compass direction, even "ME". The troll will then eat them and you will be unable to interact with them for the rest of the game (although you can still go "east" if you give "east" to the troll)." |
| 04:14 | < celticminstrel> | ...what? |
| 04:16 | <@Namegduf> | "7. In Versions 2 and 5, if you give the troll to himself, he eats himself and disappears." |
| 04:17 | <@Namegduf> | ^ I feel this part of that one is the best. |
| 04:17 | < celticminstrel> | XD |
| 04:17 | <@Vornicus> | pfffff |
| 04:22 | <@Derakon> | "If the sack and the bottle are both empty, it's possible to put the sack in the bottle, then put the bottle in the sack, causing both to vanish." |
| 04:23 | <@McMartin> | ... I recall that line from the DM4. |
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| 06:03 | < Alek> | but can you put the lime in the coconut? |
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| 08:09 | | mode/#code [+o AnnoDomini] by Reiver |
| 08:33 | < Zed_> | http://www.wolfire.com/humble |
| 08:34 | < Zed_> | Hey, pinkfreud |
| 08:34 | < Zed_> | You here? |
| 08:57 | < Tarinaky> | Zed_: Thanks for the link. I'd been wanting World of Goo for a while :x |
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| 09:11 | < Zed_> | Tar: no problem. |
| 09:16 | | * Tarinaky is now waiting on wget to mirror all the installers for later backup/archival. >.> |
| 09:32 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 09:32 | < gnolam> | Rargh. |
| 09:32 | | * gnolam flails at OpenGL. |
| 09:35 | < gnolam> | According to the docs, glReadPixels will clamp returned values to [0, 1]. |
| 09:35 | < gnolam> | I do not want this. |
| 09:44 | < gnolam> | A-ha! |
| 09:44 | < gnolam> | glClampColor(GL_CLAMP_READ_COLOR, GL_TRUE) |
| 09:45 | < gnolam> | Didn't make it into core until 3.0. That's why I couldn't find it. |
| 09:45 | < gnolam> | *GL_FALSE |
| 09:46 | < gnolam> | ... unfortunately, I don't have it. |
| 09:46 | < gnolam> | Fuck. |
| 09:46 | <@TheWatcher> | Woe :/ |
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| 12:50 | < Tarinaky> | So far Effective C++ doesn't seem to include anything I don't already know :/ |
| 12:50 | < gnolam> | Hmm. glClampColorARB at least exists. I'll try that. |
| 12:53 | < Tarinaky> | Oo. This one's new. |
| 12:53 | | * Tarinaky makes a note of it. |
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| 13:41 | < OperatorAbu_> | Hmm. Would anyone know how to make a Domain Diagram in StarUML (is it even supported)? |
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| 14:05 | <@ToxicFrog> | Today I learned something horrible: emacs lisp uses dynamic scope. |
| 14:05 | < celticminstrel> | ? |
| 14:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | Bindings are stacked at runtime rather than compile time. |
| 14:07 | < celticminstrel> | ...there's a compile time in lisp? |
| 14:09 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...yes? Most interpreted languages have a compile step, it just happens just before it runs (and doesn't emit machine code) |
| 14:09 | < celticminstrel> | Okay then. |
| 14:10 | <@ToxicFrog> | Emacs Lisp in particular compiles to bytecode for the EL virtual machine, and _can_ be precompiled to improve load times (because it can skip compilation and just feed the bytecode image straight into the VM) |
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| 14:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | Anyways. What this means if that the following EL code: (defun (test x) (lambda () x)) ((test 1)) |
| 14:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | Will complain that x is undefined rather than returning 1. |
| 14:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | (or possibly it will return some unrelated global x) |
| 14:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | Because by the time the lambda is called, the x that was passed to test is no longer in scope. |
| 14:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | There are some (ugly) macros to work around this and let you create closures anyways :/ |
| 14:22 | | * ToxicFrog eyes python |
| 14:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | Why would entries vanish from a dictionary? |
| 14:24 | < celticminstrel> | No idea. :/ |
| 14:24 | < celticminstrel> | ...well, unless you explicitly delete them. |
| 14:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...or, perhaps, because I got myloops mixed up and was reinitializing the dictionary every loop, so only the last (4000/pathlen) entries were making it into the final version. |
| 14:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | And this was not an obvious error because python ues function scope rather than block scope >.< |
| 14:27 | < celticminstrel> | Which is kind of helpful sometimes. |
| 14:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | When? |
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| 14:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | You can do function scope with block scope just by declaring your locals at function level. You can't do the converse except by wrapping each block with a lambda (which is ugly in most languages and doesn't work in python anyways) |
| 14:34 | < celticminstrel> | When you assign a variable in an if-else statement and the use it later. |
| 14:34 | < celticminstrel> | Though you're right, it can be done with block scope by pre-declaring the variable. |
| 14:40 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'd rather predeclare than having loop variables leaking all over the place. |
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| 18:46 | | * ToxicFrog stabs python right in the popen |
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| 20:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | weeeird. I think ubuntu 10.04 may actually have fixed the major firefox leaks |
| 20:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I recall seeing something about fixing a leak in X, which I bet firefox triggered |
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| 22:26 | <@Derakon> | Okay, I think I've fixed the Mysterious Weekly Reboots problem that was plaguing us (for definitions of "plague" including "it happened twice"). |
| 22:27 | <@Derakon> | So it turns out that in order to turn off Windows Update, not only do you have to select the "don't check for updates" item from a dropdownmenu, you also have to click the "OK" button. ?.? |
| 22:30 | <@Derakon> | (In my defense, I was expecting that either the settings would save automatically, or I'd get a prompt to save them when I closed the panel. Silently cancelling was...not expected) |
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