| --- Log opened Tue Feb 16 00:00:41 2010 |
| 00:01 | <@TheWatcher> | And at least altavista didn't have the irritating pointless fade in on its menu options... |
| 00:01 | <@McMartin> | No. Instead, Blink tags were standard. |
| 00:02 | <@McMartin> | All told, I'll take the DHTML~ |
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| 00:18 | | * Derakon eyes this email he just got. |
| 00:18 | <@Derakon> | I was contacted by another lab who has a similar scope to the one I've been working on; they wanted to take advantage of a type of experiment that our software enables. So I told them what all it involved and sent them my code. |
| 00:18 | <@Derakon> | Turns out their version of the scope is really quite out of date. |
| 00:18 | <@Derakon> | So it doesn't work. |
| 00:19 | <@Derakon> | And now they want my help in debugging it. |
| 00:20 | <@Derakon> | Of course I have no idea what parts of their code aren't up-to-date; I can only surmise based on how they say the program is failing. |
| 00:20 | <@Derakon> | Fun. :( |
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| 00:24 | < gnolam> | ... wait, you exposed /someone else/ to Sebastian al-Hazred's code? |
| 00:25 | <@Derakon> | No, no. |
| 00:25 | <@Derakon> | They got a copy a few years back. |
| 00:25 | <@Derakon> | I wrote my own module that interfaces with our version of that code. |
| 00:25 | <@Derakon> | Naturally it doesn't work for their version. |
| 01:05 | <@Derakon> | (The module itself is quite clean, if I do say so myself) |
| 01:14 | < gnolam> | Ah. Thank Eris for that. |
| 01:17 | <@McMartin> | I have a minor feature due soon for my work |
| 01:17 | <@McMartin> | The code is a mess though, and it's not clear whether or not it's going to be more dangerous to try to make it clean first. |
| 01:18 | <@McMartin> | Also, wow, compiling eats up battery like nothing else |
| 01:21 | <@McMartin> | In a similar note, now that I have some actual experience with *functioning* SCons projects, SCons makes me provisionally happy. |
| 01:21 | <@McMartin> | It's not quite there yet |
| 01:22 | <@McMartin> | But fills a definite niche and blows the pants off of many other build things I've had to contend with |
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| 14:25 | < Tarinaky_> | ... why won't it let -me- use handles? |
| 14:26 | < Tarinaky_> | The libraries it comes with are free to frillic around with their own invented garbage collected pointers but when -I- do it it's wrong? wtf? |
| 14:26 | <@AnnoDomini> | Because -you- touch yourself at night. |
| 14:28 | < Tarinaky_> | Touche sir. |
| 14:28 | < Tarinaky_> | Touche. |
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| 14:47 | < Tarinaky_> | Gah. Why won't it let me put a sodding 'map' datastructure into my program. |
| 14:47 | < Tarinaky_> | -why-! |
| 15:02 | < Tarinaky_> | Ahhh. That makes sense. |
| 15:02 | < Tarinaky_> | (It -is- because I touch myself at night) |
| 15:17 | < celticminstrel> | It won't let you do what now? |
| 15:21 | < Tarinaky_> | :DDD I've got it doing what I aimed to get working ^^ |
| 15:22 | < Tarinaky_> | I was having trouble because I was running foul of the memory manager. I sortof fixed my problem by adding a pointer to the STL class rather than the actual STL class. |
| 15:22 | < Tarinaky_> | Unfortunately the destructor is a black box so I've no idea if I've got a memory leak or not. |
| 15:22 | < Tarinaky_> | But if there is I'm not really sure what I could do to get rid of it anyway. |
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| 15:50 | < Tarinaky_> | Stupid question: How do I save a file to the desktop? |
| 15:50 | < Tarinaky_> | The Desktop of my user. |
| 15:50 | < Tarinaky_> | Specifically, what'd be the path? |
| 15:50 | < Tarinaky_> | "Desktop\foo.txt"? |
| 15:53 | < Tarinaky_> | Alternatively - a known position where I can inspect the file. |
| 15:53 | < Tarinaky_> | I don't -really- care where I save it I just wanna know where it's saved >.< |
| 15:54 | < Tarinaky_> | As it doesn't seem to be... oh wait. /me facepalms. |
| 15:58 | < Tarinaky_> | I tried executing it in cmd from the directory that the exe is in. |
| 15:58 | < Tarinaky_> | But I still couldn't see a file afterwards. |
| 15:58 | < Tarinaky_> | I don't know if this is because the file's not writing or what >.< |
| 16:02 | < Tarinaky_> | There's a delay when I push the button so it -must- be doing -something- :/ |
| 16:05 | < Tarinaky_> | I'm currently passing "File.open(s.c_str(),std::fstream::out );" where s="z:\foo.txt" |
| 16:05 | < Tarinaky_> | I then write some pointers (cast as ints) to the file and then close it. |
| 16:05 | < Tarinaky_> | I don't understand why it's not working :/ |
| 16:16 | <@TheWatcher[afk]> | Are you checking that the file opened? |
| 16:17 | <@TheWatcher[afk]> | Have you tried using old fashioned C fopen/fprint/fclose, and using errno/strerror to work out what might be going wrong? |
| 16:18 | <@TheWatcher[afk]> | (c++'s file handling is frankly shit from a 'finding out what went wrong' perspective, IMO) |
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| 16:47 | < Tarinaky_> | Apparently it -was- working. |
| 16:48 | < Tarinaky_> | Problem now is I can't for the life of me find any working code that converts from a System::String to a std::string. |
| 16:48 | < Tarinaky_> | Or even a sodding char* |
| 16:53 | < Tarinaky_> | GAAAAAH |
| 16:53 | < Tarinaky_> | So far all I can find is how to turn it into a System:Char* |
| 16:53 | < Tarinaky_> | Which is totally fucking useless. |
| 16:53 | <@TheWatcher[afk]> | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/1b4az623(VS.80).aspx *cough* |
| 16:57 | < Tarinaky_> | Read it. |
| 16:57 | < Tarinaky_> | It doesn't work. |
| 16:57 | < Tarinaky_> | It also lacks any sort of documentation to inform me why it doesn't work. |
| 17:03 | < Tarinaky_> | Bah. I'm going home. |
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| 17:10 | < gnolam> | Tarinaky: Goddamnit. Don't make me give another lecture on why people who describe problems with just "it doesn't work" should be hung up by their balls and then slowly lowered into a pit of rabid badgers. |
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| 17:35 | < Tarinaky> | gnolam: I'm not writing a forum post asking for help. |
| 17:35 | < Tarinaky> | gnolam: I'm bitching. |
| 17:35 | < Tarinaky> | They're two very different activities. |
| 17:37 | < Tarinaky> | After a while you get sufficiently angry that seeking help becomes impossible. |
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| 18:42 | < Tarinaky> | Sorry though. |
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| 19:01 | < gnolam> | Ah. I thought you were looking for help. :) |
| 19:01 | < Tarinaky> | I need to bitch and let off steam before I can collect my thoughts enough to actually fix the problem. |
| 19:01 | < Tarinaky> | 't'is a flaw. |
| 19:02 | < gnolam> | ... I think we're all guilty of that, from time to time. |
| 19:04 | < celticminstrel> | Um, TheWatcher[afk]... C++ has an equivalent to old-fashioned errno/strerror, you know... |
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| 20:04 | < Namegduf> | Hmm. |
| 20:05 | < Namegduf> | And now I, too, am to b writing a roguelike, apparantly. |
| 20:05 | <@jerith> | I don't thing I've ever written one. |
| 20:05 | | * jerith does not let this bother him, however. |
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| 20:22 | < Alek> | apparently TDK has announced a prototype 4-layer optical disc with capacity of 100GB. |
| 20:23 | < Alek> | ok, that's wrong. |
| 20:23 | < Alek> | the press release says 320GB. |
| 20:23 | < Alek> | 10-layer. |
| 20:24 | < Alek> | otoh, last year Pioneer prototyped a 16-layer 400GB disc. |
| 20:30 | < Alek> | hrm. |
| 20:30 | < Alek> | the 100GB is 5 years old. ha. |
| 20:40 | < gnolam> | Wake me up when they're on the market. |
| 20:43 | < Alek> | I just want a TB thumb drive. |
| 20:43 | < Alek> | actually, I'm pretty sure you can stack several 100GB worth in a single thumb drive case, those chips are TINY. |
| 20:45 | < Serah> | And expensive. |
| 20:45 | < Serah> | </care> |
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| 21:46 | <@TheWatcher> | celticminstrel: if you mean cerrno's errno, and cstring's strerror, then yes... although that's really just the standard c headers wrapped up nice. If you mean ios::rdstate (or, in general, the exceptions generated by ios in general), I'll be over here, because those're next to bloody useless. |
| 21:46 | < Alek> | Today, I came across a screenshot of google where someone searched "Taylor swift music video." Google's suggestion? "I'm really happy for you and ima let you finish your search, but did you mean Beyonce?" Google, I don't know what to say. MLIA |
| 21:58 | | * McMartin checks to see if searching for "average flight speed of an unladen swallow" offers African/European disambiguation |
| 21:58 | <@McMartin> | It doesn't |
| 21:59 | <@TheWatcher> | Wasn't there someone who did a big paper on that a while back? |
| 22:16 | < Namegduf> | Alek: It's fake. |
| 22:16 | < Namegduf> | I've seen it. |
| 22:17 | < Alek> | the screenshot or the MLIA? |
| 22:18 | < Namegduf> | Screenshot. |
| 22:18 | < Namegduf> | (Well, screenshot. It's a fake screenshot) |
| 22:19 | < celticminstrel> | TheWatcher: Isn't there an error member function? |
| 22:19 | < celticminstrel> | Oh, wait. |
| 22:19 | < celticminstrel> | It's File.bad(), I think. And a few others. |
| 22:20 | <@TheWatcher> | .good, .eof, .fail, .bad |
| 22:20 | <@TheWatcher> | They generally tell you /fuck all/ about why |
| 22:21 | < celticminstrel> | ...I guess that's true.. |
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