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| 11:42 | | * gnolam stabs Xubuntu. |
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| 13:48 | | * TheWatcher vaguely ponders using gtk+ for a configuration window for an SDL app, suspects he's likely to retain more sanity by just coding/reusing opengl gui stuff |
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| 15:29 | < gnolam> | Yes. |
| 15:29 | < gnolam> | Especially if you intend to make it cross-platform. |
| 15:29 | < gnolam> | Since GTK+ pretty much sucks on everything that isn't GNOME. |
| 15:30 | <@TheWatcher> | ... I'm using it quite easily on windows |
| 15:31 | < gnolam> | Where it looks awful and behaves even worse. |
| 15:32 | <@TheWatcher> | Looks no worse than any other cross-platform GUI toolkit I've seen |
| 15:34 | < AbuDhabi> | That's because cross-platform GUIs toolkits suck. |
| 15:35 | < gnolam> | Every cross-platform GUI toolkit (excepting Javas) look better. :P |
| 15:35 | < gnolam> | GTK looks horribly, horribly non-native. |
| 15:37 | < gnolam> | Qt? Looks native. wx? Looks native. GTK+? Looks like one of those awful "skinned" applications, but with a really ugly theme. |
| 15:37 | < gnolam> | And with half unusable dialogs - it seems even proper file open/save dialogs are beyond it. |
| 15:38 | <@TheWatcher> | uh-huh |
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| 15:47 | <@Vornicus> | Which one's the one with the folders on one side and the files on the other? |
| 15:47 | <@Vornicus> | (for the open/save dialog) |
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| 19:31 | < Derakon[work]> | You know that text flickering issue I've been trying to solve? |
| 19:31 | < Derakon[work]> | I discovered today that the result of calling IsDoubleBuffered() on the canvas object is 0. |
| 19:31 | < Derakon[work]> | Hmmm. |
| 19:31 | < Derakon[work]> | So I turned on double-buffering. |
| 19:32 | < Derakon[work]> | And now our histogram, which was black-on-white, is red-on-black. |
| 19:32 | | * Derakon[work] sighs, cannot win. |
| 19:36 | < gnolam> | Checked your glColors and glClearColors ? |
| 19:36 | < Derakon[work]> | glClearColor is (1.0, 1.0, 1.0, 0.0) (and tried making it all 1.0, no difference). glColor is (0.0, 0.0, 0.0). |
| 19:38 | < gnolam> | Hmm |
| 19:39 | < gnolam> | Sounds like a color representation issue (RGB/BGR/RGBA etc), but that shouldn't really be an issue with anything other than textures. |
| 19:39 | < gnolam> | And now, a lesson on the futility of educating users against phishing: http://www.marco.org/383925895 |
| 19:44 | < Derakon[work]> | ...what the crap? |
| 19:44 | < Derakon[work]> | How are these users ending up on this site, anyway? |
| 19:44 | < Derakon[work]> | But yeah, comments are scary. |
| 19:44 | < gnolam> | Googling "facebook login". |
| 19:45 | < gnolam> | And clicking something at random, apparently. |
| 19:45 | < Derakon[work]> | Yeah, it's like the sixth result down. |
| 19:45 | < Derakon[work]> | ...sheesh, something like 95% of the comments are from people who think the site is Facebook. |
| 19:48 | < Namegduf> | ... |
| 20:06 | <@TheWatcher> | People are morons, news at 11 ¬¬ |
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| 20:46 | < gnolam> | Yes. But this is stupidity of /epic/ proportions. |
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| 21:36 | < Derakon[work]> | Man, serialization/deserialization makes configuration file writing so easy. |
| 21:43 | <@McMartin> | Yes, but beware, for that way lies the Dark Side. |
| 21:43 | < Derakon[work]> | What, where programming is fun and straightforward? |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | One where someone has a slightly different version of the serialization library and suddenly you can't load old config files and everything breaks in impenetrably opaque third-party code |
| 21:44 | < Derakon[work]> | Ah. |
| 21:46 | < Derakon[work]> | Fortunately Python's pickle module has multiple specifiable protocols. |
| 21:46 | < Derakon[work]> | Also, the program only runs on 1 computer. |
| 21:47 | <@McMartin> | boost::serialization screwed me hard enough that I'm still reflexively skeptical, but |
| 21:56 | < Derakon[work]> | As a general rule, I trust the first-party Python libraries. |
| 21:57 | < Derakon[work]> | Since I've yet to run into a problem with them that wasn't clearly my fault once I figured out what I was doing. |
| 22:02 | < Derakon[work]> | Right, that oughta do it. |
| 22:02 | < Derakon[work]> | Total size of config module: 60 lines. |
| 22:02 | < Derakon[work]> | 11 of which are blank and a further 11 of which are comments. |
| 22:53 | < Derakon[work]> | Okay, the signature of getValue is (key, default) -- that is, if key isn't in the config dict, then default is returned. |
| 22:53 | < Derakon[work]> | Should it also create the entry if key is not present, and initialize it to default? |
| 22:54 | < Derakon[work]> | If not, I'd have to do that manually pretty much every time I examine config. |
| 22:56 | < Derakon[work]> | But it seems weird that getValue() could potentially write to the config. |
| 22:56 | <@McMartin> | That matches C++'s operator[] on maps. |
| 22:57 | <@McMartin> | But it doesn't match the find method. |
| 22:59 | < Derakon[work]> | Good enough for me! |
| 23:33 | < Derakon[work]> | Fun with vim: |
| 23:33 | < Derakon[work]> | :s/'\(.*\)':.*$/'\1': self.\1.GetValue(), |
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