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| 00:58 | < Rhamphoryncus> | gnolam: for comparison, I don't like partially clips or dinosaur comics. There's more entertaining sprite comics out there, even if they get annoying |
| 00:59 | < Finale> | 8-bit? |
| 00:59 | < Finale> | B&G? |
| 01:00 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I do read ansem retort on occasion |
| 01:00 | | * Vornicus offers Wondermark? |
| 01:00 | < Rhamphoryncus> | and I did offer 8-bit theatre for a while |
| 01:00 | < Rhamphoryncus> | and yes, I was going to mention wondermark. However, I'm note sure they really qualify |
| 01:02 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Art has a lot of detail and often differs from panel to panel |
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| 01:54 | <@McMartin> | Code snippet of the day. |
| 01:54 | <@McMartin> | currentpagedevice /Duplex get dup null eq { (Duplex mode not defined for this device.) = } { { (Duplex mode enabled.) } { (Duplex mode disabled.) } ifelse = } |
| 01:55 | <@McMartin> | ... hm, needs an extra pop, I guess |
| 01:56 | < Finale> | hm. |
| 01:56 | < Finale> | it's a GOOD thing I keep my textbooks when I finish class. |
| 01:56 | < Finale> | cause I NEED them. >_> |
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| 01:59 | <@McMartin> | Actually, the nesting there is also wrong, so, never mind~ |
| 02:18 | < Finale> | wut |
| 02:18 | < Finale> | there's ads out for Avernum. |
| 02:18 | < Finale> | isn't that game like 20 years old? |
| 02:19 | <@Derakon> | Avernum 1 is nine years old. |
| 02:20 | < Finale> | it's a remake of Exile. |
| 02:20 | < Finale> | and not a very obvious remake. |
| 02:20 | <@Derakon> | That doesn't mean it's remotely the same game. |
| 02:20 | < Finale> | looks identical. |
| 02:20 | < Finale> | I've played both. |
| 02:20 | < Finale> | they looked identical to me. |
| 02:20 | <@Derakon> | Then you must be blind as well as deaf. |
| 02:20 | < Finale> | Avernum 1-3 were remakes of Exile 1-3. |
| 02:20 | <@Derakon> | Since Exile 1 had incredibly crude graphics. |
| 02:21 | | * Finale shrugs. |
| 02:21 | < Finale> | maybe the version I got was updated to just pre Avernum. |
| 02:21 | < Finale> | or used Avernum's graphics. |
| 02:21 | < Finale> | I dunno. |
| 02:21 | <@Derakon> | Avernum is notably 2.5D, while the Exile series are all flatly 2D. |
| 02:21 | < Finale> | it WAS around the turn of the millennium. |
| 02:31 | <@Derakon> | Exile 1 was made, as near as I can tell, in '95. Notably, its FAQ states the sysreqs as "Exile requires System 7, 256 colors, 2 MB free memory, 3 MB disk space, and a 13" monitor." and includes the question "I have 16 colors. Will it run?" |
| 02:37 | < Finale> | pffft. |
| 02:40 | < dmlandrum> | I remember back when I was blown away by 256 simultaneous colors. |
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| 02:43 | <@McMartin> | Heh. The Atari 2600 had an insane number of simultaneous colors because it maintained no state |
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| 02:43 | <@McMartin> | You were racing the electron gun and could use as many colors as you could assign during the vertical scan. |
| 02:45 | < dmlandrum> | Which was still about 16 colors if you wanted any actual game logic to be able to run. :-P |
| 02:45 | <@McMartin> | Game logic is what VBLANK is for~ |
| 02:45 | <@McMartin> | Solaris is pretty much the peak, really. |
| 02:46 | <@McMartin> | http://www.atariage.com/screenshot_page.html?SoftwareLabelID=450 |
| 02:46 | <@McMartin> | Changing colors is what HBLANK is for. |
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| 08:54 | <@McMartin> | Aquamacs Emacs: <3 |
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| 11:26 | <~Reiver> Someone explain RPS to me? |
| 12:46 | <@TheWatcher> | Paper covers rock, but scissors cut paper, but rock blunts scissors...? |
| 12:53 | <~Reiver> Er. XKCD strip. |
| 12:53 | <~Reiver> Bread before the sausage...? |
| 12:56 | <@TheWatcher> | Oh, RPN (reverse polish notation). In reverse polish, the operands preceed the operator (so, 2 + 3 becomes 2 3 +) So, that one's kinda 'bun + hotdog' becomes 'bun hotdog +'... see the idea? |
| 12:57 | <~Reiver> ... right |
| 12:58 | <~Reiver> I was trying to figure out that one where you stick, eg, sihqtCurrencyNotation |
| 12:58 | <~Reiver> With a bunch of information before the variable. |
| 12:58 | <~Reiver> And going "So ... it's like putting the bread before the sausage? Some kind of pun about leaving the 'meat' of a variable to last, maybe?" |
| 13:11 | <@TheWatcher> | the one with the alphabet soup befor variable names is Hungarian notation |
| 13:12 | <~Reiver> Aaah, okay. Nevermind~ |
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| 16:31 | < gnolam> | http://mashable.com/2009/10/05/photosketch/ |
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| 19:11 | | * Derakon[work] pushes a new version of the microscope software to "production" (a.k.a. moved the old version to a different folder and put the new version in its place). |
| 19:13 | < Derakon[work]> | And now I feel better knowing that it's also in source control. <3 |
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| 19:57 | < SmithKurosaki> | Heh |
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| 20:08 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I hope renaming folders isn't what you mean by source control *g* |
| 20:08 | < Derakon[AFK2]> | No, Bitbucket. |
| 20:08 | < Derakon[AFK2]> | Mercurial repo. |
| 20:11 | < Derakon[AFK2]> | Back to work. |
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| 20:39 | | * SmithKurosaki amusemennt |
| 20:40 | | * Finale desperation |
| 20:52 | < Finale> | anyone here? |
| 20:53 | < Finale> | what's a good price to charge per item to scan a drawing and convert into Illustrator or Photoshop into a format and quality that can be used for, say, silkscreening a shirt? |
| 20:57 | <@McMartin> | How much time does this take you to do? |
| 20:58 | < Finale> | depends, I guess. |
| 20:58 | | * McMartin would select some moderately exorbitant hourly fee and then work it out based on average time to do. |
| 20:58 | <@McMartin> | Moderately exorbitant to cover equipment costs &c. $20/hr? |
| 20:59 | < Finale> | from what I recall of scanning my own stuff, maybe half an hour, most of which is taken by fiddling to make the pencils stand out, and then rescaling to web resolution. |
| 20:59 | <@McMartin> | So, 10-15 bucks? |
| 21:00 | < Finale> | but this might be non-pencils, in which case it could be easier or harder, and it's probably gonna be high-rez. |
| 21:00 | | * Finale dunnos. |
| 21:01 | <@McMartin> | If you have some trusted customers, ask for some materials and charge by the hour in those cases, perhaps at a discount. |
| 21:01 | <@McMartin> | Then get a better time estimate and use that for a per-item fee. |
| 21:01 | <@McMartin> | For huge bulk or complex orders, always charge for time. |
| 21:15 | < Finale> | I'm just looking at craigslist, seeing what I can apply to. |
| 21:15 | < Finale> | I know I can do the conversion without too much fuss, but it's been years since I last did it, and I don't know how long it will take. |
| 21:16 | < Finale> | nor do I know, for example, the size of the image or the resolution they want. |
| 21:16 | < Finale> | actually, doesn't PS/Illustrator put it in vector? |
| 21:17 | < Finale> | http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/crg/1400172575.html is the ad in question |
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| 21:56 | | * Derakon[work] eyes this post, which has had every single apostrophe replaced by "â€(TM)". |
| 21:56 | < Derakon[work]> | That's some messed-up encoding there. |
| 21:58 | | * Finale eyebrows. |
| 22:02 | <@TheWatcher> | Broken utf8? |
| 22:02 | < Derakon[work]> | It looks like it's getting double-encoded somehow. No idea what the (TM) is for. |
| 22:03 | <@TheWatcher> | Literal '(TM)'? O.o |
| 22:04 | <@TheWatcher> | weird |
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| 22:56 | < Finale> | can you guys toss in any feedback on this please? |
| 22:56 | < Finale> | http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cpg/1409565025.html |
| 22:56 | < Finale> | the only thing I can think of that may be troublesome is the login - and there, I thought I may be able to find solutions online. |
| 22:59 | | * Vornicus gets his new data structures assignments: sparse matrix (telegraphed last time), binary tree, and quicksort. |
| 23:07 | < Derakon[work]> | Man, I haven't made a binary tree in ages. |
| 23:07 | < Derakon[work]> | I take it it needs to be self-balancing? |
| 23:09 | <@Vornicus> | Nope. |
| 23:10 | <@Vornicus> | Red-black comes later. |
| 23:12 | < Derakon[work]> | ...so this is just insert, find, and traverse? |
| 23:14 | <@Vornicus> | Insert, delete, find, traverse (in-order and post-order) |
| 23:14 | <@Vornicus> | (er, pre-order.) |
| 23:14 | <@Vornicus> | (post-order is optional but I'm gonna use it.) |
| 23:15 | < Derakon[work]> | That still seems like a fairly straightforward assignment... |
| 23:15 | < Derakon[work]> | Eh, oh well. |
| 23:16 | <@Vornicus> | It is. My last one was just "make a stack!" and "make a queue!" |
| 23:16 | <@Vornicus> | The sparse matrix is the tricky one. |
| 23:17 | < Derakon[work]> | Gotta write your own hashing function? |
| 23:17 | <@Vornicus> | Not a hash - this is linked list land. |
| 23:41 | < Rhamphoryncus> | oi, so after a couple days I finally realized that floor division isn't a fundamental property of integer division. It's a choice, convenient for computers. Ceiling division would be another choice |
| 23:41 | < Rhamphoryncus> | I've been programming so long that I couldn't figure that out |
| 23:43 | < Derakon[work]> | Heh. |
| 23:43 | < Rhamphoryncus> | And actually, gradeschool math is likely to use truncated division (round towards 0), while computers use floor division (round towards negative infinity). They just happen to be the same for positive numbers |
| 23:46 | < Rhamphoryncus> | ceiling division is used informally. Take a hundred people, split them into groups of 10. Which group is the 10th person in? |
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| 23:56 | < Finale> | 1st. |
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