| --- Log opened Mon Oct 05 00:00:14 2009 |
| 00:17 | < gnolam> | Ah, the jungle of Cyrillic encodings. |
| 00:19 | < Rhamphoryncus> | heh |
| 00:20 | < Rhamphoryncus> | The actual point of that file is to test source files using other encodings |
| 00:20 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Python handles it fine. Anjuta and GVIM do not |
| 00:24 | < simon`> | woohoo |
| 00:24 | < simon`> | next week is I/O using Standard ML. |
| 00:26 | < gnolam> | Rhamphoryncus: Ah. Be grateful. Handling externally generated Cyrillic text in general gives you a uniquely Russian /Weltanschauung/ - by the time you've encountered your third or so incompatible-with-everything-else encoding, you start hitting the vodka bottle. |
| 00:29 | < Rhamphoryncus> | gnolam: I've been doing that for a long time already |
| 00:29 | < Rhamphoryncus> | mostly with python's delusional handling of UCS2/UCS4/UTF-16/UTF-32/CESU-8/UTF-8 |
| 00:37 | | * gnolam wishes everything would just go UTF-8 already. |
| 00:38 | < Rhamphoryncus> | Python's certainly leaning that way.. except for internal use |
| 00:40 | < Rhamphoryncus> | And the decoding process of unicode literals is amusing. Say you have a koi8-r source file and it's a UTF-32 build of python. It goes koi8-r -> utf-8 -> utf-32 -> utf-16-be -> ascii escapes -> utf-32 |
| 00:42 | < Rhamphoryncus> | actually, I haven't verified that initial koi8-r -> utf-8 step yet |
| 00:42 | < Rhamphoryncus> | May very well go through utf-32 too |
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| 01:19 | | * McMartin ponders Foundation.framework |
| 01:20 | <@McMartin> | I think I'll be writing my OCR database indexer in Objective-C, at least for the initial scrape. |
| 01:20 | <@McMartin> | [NSString stringWithContentsOfURL:] seems like it's much easier to deal with than libcurl. |
| 01:22 | | * gnolam derives the moment of inertia for rotation of a 2D hexagon around its center of mass as a function of its side length and blarghs at the time it took. |
| 01:33 | | * Finerty still finds himself stuck for standalone queue applications. Stack yes. linked sparse matrix yes. Queue? Gneh. Madness. |
| 01:33 | <@McMartin> | Mail server? |
| 01:34 | <@Finerty> | Uh. Let me try this: I want a program that makes a vague amount of sense as an html/js app that would take no more than a day to program. |
| 01:36 | <@McMartin> | Oh. |
| 01:36 | <@McMartin> | Um, if it's a JS app, something where you can file requests and then process them in the order they are received. |
| 01:36 | <@McMartin> | ... KITTEN RANKING. |
| 01:36 | <@McMartin> | Kittens go in on one page, they get 10s on another. |
| 01:36 | <@McMartin> | Kittens will get their 10s in the order they are submitted |
| 01:37 | <@Finerty> | So what I've got for the stack is a simple calculator app. Just one page, I hit the button and it calculates for me. |
| 01:38 | <@Finerty> | The sparse matrix one is less obvious: it's a herd immunity simulator. |
| 01:39 | < simon`> | a sparse matrix is one with a lot of zeroes in it, right? |
| 01:39 | <@Finerty> | Yah. |
| 01:39 | <@Finerty> | I'm using a 2d doubly-linked list implementation for it. |
| 01:41 | <@Finerty> | In the herd immunity simulator, I have a 1kx1k matrix and I fill about, oh, 10000 or so locations with 1s (as an adjacency matrix) |
| 01:43 | <@McMartin> | For a queue, I'd use a two-page producer/consumer app of some kind. |
| 01:43 | <@Finerty> | Well, yes, a producer-cons... oh, duh. I need one of those! |
| 01:43 | | * Finerty writes the queue into his herd immunity simulator. |
| 01:46 | <@Finerty> | (I need a graph traversal algorithm to figure out the herd immunity value, which is approximately N^2 - the number of other people each patient can infect.) |
| 01:48 | < gnolam> | And then Madagascar closes its ports. |
| 01:49 | <@Finerty> | Quite, but. |
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| 06:11 | | * Derakon eyes http://www.screenrecycler.com/home.html |
| 06:11 | <@Derakon> | This would appear to solve the issue of what I'd do with my 24" iMac if I were to upgrade to a new computer. |
| 06:12 | <@Derakon> | Though it does appear that it may have some speed issues. |
| 06:12 | <@Derakon> | Since it operates over VNC. |
| 06:13 | <@Derakon> | Oooh. Or http://www.abyssoft.com/software/teleport/ |
| 06:15 | | * Derakon envisions running the iMac with attached 19" display next to a new Mac with a 28" display and his spare 19" LCD. Four displays, two computers. |
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| 14:38 | | * gnolam stabs C++'s default constructors. |
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| 18:04 | | * AnnoDomini doesn't know what to say about today's XKCD. |
| 18:06 | | * SmithKurosaki is also confused. The polish guy beside me even said wtf |
| 18:07 | | * AnnoDomini is Polish. |
| 18:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | Yes, I understand the joke. |
| 18:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | But it's... just WTF. |
| 18:08 | < SmithKurosaki> | (I don't) |
| 18:09 | < gnolam> | SmithKurosaki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation |
| 18:10 | < SmithKurosaki> | Ahh. Ok I get it now |
| 18:10 | < SmithKurosaki> | It's still kind of wtf, but it's less ??? now |
| 18:11 | < SmithKurosaki> | gnolam: Why you go to stab eerything |
| 18:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | When all you have is a bayonet, everything looks like an enemy soldier in your trench. |
| 18:12 | < SmithKurosaki> | Keh |
| 18:13 | < gnolam> | Because there are a lot of things in this world in need of a good stabbing. :P |
| 18:13 | < SmithKurosaki> | You know who you remind me of? |
| 18:14 | < gnolam> | No. |
| 18:14 | < SmithKurosaki> | Black Mage from 8bit |
| 18:14 | < SmithKurosaki> | You always want to stab something |
| 18:15 | | * TheWatcher readsup, notes he actually LOLed over XKCD this morning, suspects this makes him clinically insane |
| 18:15 | < SmithKurosaki> | Heh |
| 18:21 | < SmithKurosaki> | Later all |
| 18:28 | < Rhamphoryncus> | notation vs sausage is a weak swap IMO, but it's still funny |
| 18:32 | < SmithKurosaki> | Well, polish sausage... |
| 18:39 | < dmlandrum> | Reverse French polish notation? |
| 18:39 | < dmlandrum> | Where you have to remove and retype your equation over and over again until it's nice and shiny? |
| 18:44 | < SmithKurosaki> | ;.; |
| 18:47 | < dmlandrum> | C'mon, it wasn't THAT bad a joke... |
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| 19:06 | < gnolam> | SmithKurosaki: Pfft. |
| 19:08 | < gnolam> | Checkerboard Nightmare pretty much summed up my feelings on sprite comics: http://www.checkerboardnightmare.com/d/20010810.html |
| 19:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | gnolam: so, you dismiss out of hand the set of comics created by people who are good writers, but can't draw freehand? |
| 19:14 | < SmithKurosaki> | :( |
| 19:25 | < gnolam> | No. I dismiss /sprite comics/ out of hand. |
| 19:25 | < gnolam> | You can use stock art and still turn out a quality comic - see for example Partially Clips, or Dinosaur Comics for an extreme example. |
| 19:25 | < gnolam> | But sprite comics? Haven't seen a good example yet. |
| 19:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | 8-Bit Theatre after the first year or so, Captain SNES if you can get past the fact that it updates twice a year, 194X. |
| 19:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | Possibly Kidd Radd, although I've never been entirely clear whether that's a sprite comic, or original pixel art made to look like a sprite comic. |
| 19:43 | <@AnnoDomini> | IIRC, it's original pixel art. |
| 19:45 | < SmithKurosaki> | *it is p. awesome |
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| 20:57 | | * AnnoDomini reads the paper that the sheep/goat blog post linked to. |
| 20:58 | <@AnnoDomini> | I'm halfway through, and I've found two typos, so far. |
| 21:02 | < gnolam> | Typos are pretty common even in published papers. |
| 21:02 | < gnolam> | IME. |
| 21:07 | <@McMartin> | Yeah, editors aren't involved past rough draft. |
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