code logs -> 2009 -> Mon, 21 Sep 2009< code.20090920.log - code.20090922.log >
--- Log opened Mon Sep 21 00:00:46 2009
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01:16
<@McMartin>
Hm, not sure how I didn't end up in here
01:17
<@McMartin>
As it happens, I have a Python question.
01:17
<@McMartin>
I'm given to understand that the % operator on strings is deprecated in 3.x
01:17
<@McMartin>
I have a text processing project I'm starting up, and I figured I'd do it in 3.x for practice.
01:17
<@McMartin>
How are we supposed to format strings now?
01:30 * McMartin digs around, finds what he thinks is the answer
01:30
<@McMartin>
The Python Docs are linking to the wrong piece. =P
01:31
<@Kazriko>
something like {1} and such. i'm not sure i like it.
01:31
<@Kazriko>
too used to the % operator.
01:32
<@Kazriko>
"blah {1}".format("blahblahblah") or something like that...
01:32
<@Kazriko>
I can't remember exactly though...
01:32
<@McMartin>
http://docs.python.org/3.1/library/string.html#template-strings
01:32
<@McMartin>
This is actually better for what I'm going to use it for, too, so that's a happy thing.
01:32 * McMartin has one variable that needs to appear at multiple places
01:32
<@McMartin>
And so that's $varname inside the string.
01:33
<@Kazriko>
I think there's multiple ways then? hmm.
01:33
<@Kazriko>
just above that is the .format thing.
01:33
<@Kazriko>
"{name!r}"
01:33
<@Kazriko>
"{varname!s}" and such.
01:34
<@McMartin>
Oh hey
01:34
<@McMartin>
Actually, that's even better
01:34
<@McMartin>
Because I can also do "{self.fieldname}"
01:34
<@McMartin>
As part of __str__
01:34
<@Kazriko>
yeah.
01:35 * Kazriko does too much C coding at work, so is too used to % formatting. heh
01:36 * Kazriko is doing DynamicC right now...
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01:37 * Kazriko grumbles about porting from C++ to DynamicC...
01:44
<@Kazriko>
porting libraries, unit tests, and the whole program. Including rewriting the entire unit test framework and so forth...
01:44
<@Kazriko>
and rewriting the entire modbus database that the old hardware came with built in.
01:47
< gnolam>
DynamicC?
01:47
<@Kazriko>
custom c compiler for some 8-bit computers.
01:48
<@Kazriko>
it's not exactly ansi-c compatible...
01:59
< gnolam>
Ah.
02:03 * gnolam stabs graphics cards manufacturers yet again.
02:04
< gnolam>
I fully understand why there isn't a rand() function in GLSL, but there /are/ noise[n]() functions - and _they should be implemented goddamnit_.
02:05 * gnolam rolls his own 1D noise function.
02:06 * Kazriko finishes all the unit tests for the first ported module.
02:07
<@Kazriko>
now to make sure I didn't forget to unittest any stray variables. heh
02:11
<@Kazriko>
only 7 variables. heh
02:11
< gnolam>
Whoa. You can make some seriously trippy effects with poor noise functions.
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06:50
< gnolam>
Apparently, insomnia is the way to actually get work done on your personal projects. :P
06:50
<@McMartin>
Ee-yep
06:51
<@McMartin>
(Guess who just finished his IFComp Review organization code)
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< gnolam>
Hah.
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08:50
< gnolam>
Why thank you Ticnet. You have just proven that there really is no limit to how awful an online ticket booking system can be.
08:52
< Reivthia>
gnolam: Of course not!
08:53
< Reivthia>
Why, with their next upgrade, they will personally deliver your tickets, along with a complementary (non-negotiable) non-consensual erotic rectal violation!
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09:42
< gnolam>
Something like that.
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< gnolam>
http://www.quirksmode.org/blog/archives/2009/09/the_html5_drag.html
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16:22
< gnolam>
Is it just me or has the entirety of HTML 5 been designed on a generous helping of crack?
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17:00
< MyCatVerbs>
gnolam: At least it isn't XHTML?
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17:06
< Alek>
I like XHTML.
17:06
< Alek>
what's wrong with it?
17:09
< gnolam>
What Alek said.
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18:15
< Derakon[work]>
Came in to work today ready to work on that crash...and the damn thing stopped happening!
19:25
< Rhamphoryncus>
heh
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19:55
< gnolam>
Hmm. Brain damage.
19:56
< Finale>
what happened to the XHTML discussion, anyway?
19:58
< gnolam>
There's a homework assignment on the physics portion of the course where you get a bunch of kinematics formulae for a particle thrown in your face, and the assignment is basically "pick starting variables, plot the result, tell us what kind of motion the particle experiences".
19:59
< gnolam>
I read the first two lines of the combined formulae/pseudocode block and went "Ah, ballistic trajectory with drag".
20:00
< gnolam>
Coding is bad for your mental health.
20:01
< Finale>
what's wrong with it?
20:03
< gnolam>
The fact that I was supposed to read the next 6 lines, turn it into something plottable, and then plot it with a couple of different starting variables before saying what it was? :)
20:03
< Finale>
hehe.
20:04 Irssi: #code: Total of 24 nicks [11 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
20:04 * TheWatcher eyes his session code
20:05
<@TheWatcher>
Stuff for creating sessions? Check. Validating session cookies/ids? Check. Updating sessions? Check. Now, what am I forgetting... oh, yeah, they need to be deleted sometimes! >.<
20:06 * TheWatcher facepalms vaguely, starts coding...
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21:12
< Finale>
<@RaptorIIC> Error: Too many arguments when calling GirlFriend();
21:19
< Rhamphoryncus>
TypeError: girlfriend() takes no arguments (100 given)
21:32
< dmlandrum>
Invalid Argument: 99Problems(): Bitch not allowed.
21:33
< dmlandrum>
Wish I had thought of that one when the Song in Code meme was still on Twitter.
21:34
< Finale>
pfft
22:01
< Finale>
win http://bash.org/?5836
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23:38
< Derakon[work]>
Well, I've made my first noticeable improvement to the UI of the microscope software.
23:39
< Derakon[work]>
To wit: I added a dialogue box that performs an action that you used to have to invoke via Python.
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23:42
<@Vornicus>
Wootburger
23:42
< Derakon[work]>
I've also gone through and cleaned up some of the text in another dialogue box.
23:43
< Derakon[work]>
Things like " ===> experiments use ALL connected cameras !!! <===" and "advanced settings -- you no change !!!"
23:44
<@Vornicus>
I like it.
23:45
< Derakon[work]>
It's amazing how much more professional things look when you use, say, capital letters.
23:45
< Finale>
wonder if that's why people talk in all caps. <_<
--- Log closed Tue Sep 22 00:00:00 2009
code logs -> 2009 -> Mon, 21 Sep 2009< code.20090920.log - code.20090922.log >