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| 06:38 | <@Vornicus> | oh, lord. |
| 06:38 | | * Vornicus shoots the Darwine guys, who forgot that you can have spaces in pathnames. |
| 06:52 | < Namegduf> | They don't support those? |
| 06:59 | <@Vornicus> | I moved Darwine into /Applications/App Folders so I could have all my app icons in one place without any folders showing; |
| 06:59 | <@Vornicus> | Now it complains when it runs its bash scripts. |
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| 07:19 | <@Vornicus> | I really do need a decent paint program. |
| 07:33 | <@AnnoDomini> | Define 'decent'. What are your needs? |
| 07:51 | <@Vornicus> | Well, scaling, rotating (but only on 90s); I need to be able to get a fade effect (like using an alpha gradient on another layer) |
| 07:51 | <@AnnoDomini> | That all? |
| 07:52 | <@AnnoDomini> | Vector or raster? |
| 07:52 | <@Vornicus> | Raster. |
| 07:53 | <@AnnoDomini> | That's a bit of a problem, otherwise I'd have suggested Flash 5. |
| 07:53 | <@Vornicus> | I need to be able to, eventually, print on several pages, preferably oriented the way I want. |
| 07:53 | <@AnnoDomini> | MS Paint manages all but fading. |
| 07:58 | <@AnnoDomini> | I guess you could use MS Paint + Flash 5 + Irfan View, like I do. :P |
| 08:10 | <@Thaqui> | GIMP, perhaps? |
| 08:11 | <@Vornicus> | The GIMP is possibly the worst piece of image editing software that I have ever had the displeasure to use. |
| 08:11 | <@Vornicus> | Also I don't know if it even works on Mac. |
| 08:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | Vornicus: imagemagick. |
| 08:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | Although personally I rather like the gimp. |
| 08:29 | <@Vornicus> | isn't imagemagick cli only? |
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| 08:29 | <@Vornicus> | I'm going to need a gui for this, I need to be able to see what I'm doing pretty much live. |
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| 08:40 | <@Vornicus> | Also apparently "Harvest Vorn" is growing in my head. |
| 08:42 | <@Vornicus> | But not very much. |
| 08:42 | <@Vornicus> | It's not invading my every thought like VOrn In Space or Vornball. |
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| 18:24 | <@gnolam> | http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=recursion |
| 18:33 | <@Consul> | Hah. Good Easter egg. |
| 18:34 | <@Consul> | I wonder how hard it is for them to throw things like that in, considering the system is so dependent on algorithms. |
| 18:34 | <@Consul> | Err... |
| 18:34 | <@Consul> | Let me phrase that differently. |
| 18:35 | <@Consul> | Because the system is so dependent on results being found automatically, I wonder how hard it is to essentially hard-code such a little joke into it? |
| 19:00 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Probably those jokes are hard-coded into the front end display crap, not PageRank and friends. |
| 19:11 | <@McMartin> | Yeah |
| 19:11 | <@McMartin> | Ask Jeeves did something similar back in the day |
| 19:11 | <@McMartin> | Its gimmick was natural language questions that it extracted keywords from |
| 19:11 | <@McMartin> | But if you asked, and I quote directly, "What is the average airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?" you would get a disambiguation question. |
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| 19:25 | <@Consul> | I guess Easter eggs will always be a programming tradition. |
| 19:27 | <@McMartin> | (Disambiguation question was, of course, "African or European?") |
| 19:32 | <@Consul> | Yeah, I had no way of knowing that. Thank you. |
| 19:32 | <@Consul> | :-P |
| 19:32 | | * Consul ducks and runs. |
| 19:32 | <@McMartin> | Clicking either one linked to a copy of the full script! |
| 19:33 | <@Consul> | Heh. |
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| 21:42 | < Bobsentme> | Help? |
| 21:42 | <@McMartin> | Maybe? |
| 21:43 | < Bobsentme> | problem: I'm trying to get a global variable in C++ to work (in QT creator) |
| 21:43 | < Bobsentme> | When I try to change it in a construct, the thing tells me I haven't declared the proper scope for the global variable. |
| 21:44 | < Bobsentme> | bah, it's hard to explain, and I guess I'll keep pounding away at it after a break. |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | Make sure you're declaring it extern in the header file or whatnot |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | Also, you can force global scope in C++ like this: |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | In foo.h |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | extern Foo x; |
| 21:44 | <@McMartin> | And in foo.cpp |
| 21:45 | <@McMartin> | #include <foo.h> |
| 21:45 | <@McMartin> | Foo x; |
| 21:45 | < Bobsentme> | Ok |
| 21:45 | <@McMartin> | And then anywhere... |
| 21:45 | <@McMartin> | "::x" will mean "x at global scope" |
| 21:45 | < Bobsentme> | Thanks |
| 21:45 | <@McMartin> | You should at least consider making such things static class members or namespace-controlled, though. |
| 21:46 | <@McMartin> | Those are lectures for another time. |
| 21:46 | | * Bobsentme nods. |
| 21:47 | < Bobsentme> | I've got "usng namespace std;" at the top, which actually allowed me to declare strings in my program. |
| 21:48 | | * Vornicus-Latens has hatred for C++ namespaces. |
| 21:53 | <@McMartin> | You can also declare them as std::string |
| 21:54 | <@McMartin> | User-defined namespaces in C++ are OK because I have no real objection to, say, VControl::read_gesture over VControl_ReadGesture |
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| 22:16 | <@TheWatcher> | Idly, McM? Have you ever looked at bstring? |
| 22:17 | <@AnnoDomini> | ToxicFrog: How's your dorf doing in Headshoots? |
| 22:17 | <@McMartin> | TW: I don't... think so? I may have used it indirectly assuming this is some kind of library |
| 22:19 | <@AnnoDomini> | A b-string? What's that? The character array string equivalent in the B programming language? |
| 22:19 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah, it's a string library for C and C++ that, from my tooling around with it so far, seems to blow std::string out of the water for most of my users |
| 22:19 | <@McMartin> | users or uses? |
| 22:19 | <@TheWatcher> | uses |
| 22:19 | <@TheWatcher> | (sorry, fingers are not working properly tonight...) |
| 22:19 | <@McMartin> | I honestly don't do much string processing in C++, and if I'm writing a Qt app I'm likely to just use QStrings everywhere for consistency |
| 22:20 | <@McMartin> | (For anyone else, I'd have read it right, but you *do* have users in your charge) |
| 22:20 | <@TheWatcher> | (for my sins, aye) |
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| 22:42 | <@AnnoDomini> | Okay, does anyone here know how to get an insect out from an LCD monitor? |
| 22:42 | <@AnnoDomini> | It's under the protective layer, but above the liquid crystal. |
| 22:44 | <@TheWatcher> | ... |
| 22:44 | <@TheWatcher> | Sorry, I only debug software. |
| 22:45 | <@AnnoDomini> | Maybe I'll wait until it's in a relatively unused corner then squish it. |
| 22:51 | <@McMartin> | This may be the weirdest on-topic conversation I've seen in here. |
| 22:55 | <@AnnoDomini> | It's proving unsquishable. |
| 22:56 | <@McMartin> | The other channel I forwarded this to suggests time travel =/ |
| 22:57 | <@AnnoDomini> | I'd need to know when it entered my monitor. |
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| 23:42 | | * Bobsentme shakes fist at XP. |
| 23:42 | < Bobsentme> | Apparently, compiling/running my program threw up a security alert or something, bad enough to shut down my pc |
| 23:42 | <@McMartin> | What compiler? |
| 23:43 | <@McMartin> | Oh, right, MinGW |
| 23:45 | | * Bobsentme nods |
| 23:45 | < Bobsentme> | I think I just compiled or ran it too many times in quick succession. |
| 23:47 | <@TheWatcher> | That generally shouldn't make any difference... |
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