code logs -> 2009 -> Thu, 04 Jun 2009< code.20090603.log - code.20090605.log >
--- Log opened Thu Jun 04 00:00:06 2009
00:31
<@gnolam>
"FAPs part of the MPEG-4 standard" <- I know I have a gutter mind, but /come on/.
00:31
<@ToxicFrog>
o/` the video standard is for porn o/`
00:34
<@MyCatVerbs>
? Why you think MPEG was born? Porn! Porn! Porn! ?
00:37
<@gnolam>
"Does Q penetrate a face of P?"
00:37
<@gnolam>
GAH
00:42
<@ToxicFrog>
What's the unicode for that ??
00:44
<@gnolam>
"FAPs part of the MPEG-4 standard"
00:44
<@gnolam>
Asså... jag vet att jag har en snuskig hjärna, men KOM IGEN.
00:44
<@gnolam>
Argh
00:44
<@gnolam>
Mispaste
00:45
<@gnolam>
http://www.youtube.com/html5 <- I meant to post this.
00:46
<@ToxicFrog>
Doesn't work in Opera.
00:47
<@Vornicus>
Nor Safari.
00:47
<@Derakon>
Nor FF3.
00:50
<@Vornicus>
So, this is pretty impressive, so far.
00:50
<@ToxicFrog>
I suspect it works only in Chrome.
00:51
<@gnolam>
It's supposed to work in the Safari nightlies as well.
00:51
<@ToxicFrog>
So...in order to view this tech demo, you have to use a browser that is, itself, a tech demo.
00:51
<@Vornicus>
Pffff
00:51
<@gnolam>
http://openvideo.dailymotion.com/en then. Works in FF 3.5.
00:52
<@gnolam>
I never thought HTML 5's video would be deployed anywhere, TBH.
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04:03
< SmithKurosaki>
man i missed an awesome conversation a couple hours ago
04:48
<@Vornicus>
What was I doing. Oh, right, art.
04:49
< SmithKurosaki>
oh, do tell
04:50 * Vornicus is making placeholder art for his vornball thing.
04:56
< SmithKurosaki>
cool
04:56
< SmithKurosaki>
placeholder art though, im not completely sure what that is
04:57
<@Derakon>
Very simple art. Unofficial.
04:57
<@Vornicus>
Art that it takes a minute each piece to make.
04:57
<@Derakon>
If that.
04:57
< SmithKurosaki>
cool
04:58
<@Vornicus>
I just made four pieces - granted, they're rotational duplicates of each other - in about 45 seconds.
04:59
<@Derakon>
In the official version they probably won't be rotational duplicates of each other. :)
04:59
<@Vornicus>
Indeed not.
05:00
< SmithKurosaki>
cool :)
05:04
<@Vornicus>
Hell, it takes longer to export than to actually draw.
05:06
< SmithKurosaki>
what are you using to create it?
05:06
<@ToxicFrog>
Betting postscript.
05:07
<@Vornicus>
no, I'd forgotten how to put together postscript, so Illustrator.
05:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Aah.
05:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Pity.
05:08
<@ToxicFrog>
It's not hard to pick back up.
05:08
< SmithKurosaki>
is it hard to learn in the first place?
05:08
<@Vornicus>
SmithKurosaki: Not really, no.
05:08
<@ToxicFrog>
Postfix notation takes some head-wrapping-around, but once you get used to reading it it's really simple
05:09
<@Vornicus>
It will mess with your head for a while from the postfix notation, and the very explicit stack stuff, but it's a very simple language.
05:09
<@ToxicFrog>
It kind of has to be, since it's designed to run on printers.
05:10
< SmithKurosaki>
tf, so is it like how i am with lua?
05:10
<@ToxicFrog>
???
05:10
< SmithKurosaki>
nvm
05:12
<@ToxicFrog>
Sample program that draws a box: 0 0 moveto 0 100 lineto 100 100 lineto 100 0 lineto closepath stroke
05:13
< SmithKurosaki>
o ok, i can deal with that, i was messing around with that kind of stuff in java, just need syntax
05:13
< SmithKurosaki>
(was using draw.shape type stuff, hangman came out of that)
05:20
< SmithKurosaki>
gnar, my laptop iscting up
05:20
<@ToxicFrog>
Flow control: 3 4 lt { (3<4!) } { (3!<4) } ifelse
05:20
< SmithKurosaki>
is acting*, dumb keyboard
05:21
< SmithKurosaki>
tf, more ps?
05:26
<@ToxicFrog>
Yes.
05:26
<@ToxicFrog>
Oh man. That game of mafia was crazy.
05:26
<@ToxicFrog>
D1, lynch town, no nightkill.
05:27
<@ToxicFrog>
D2, Twan claims bulletproof, CC claims jailer and jailed Twan. We vote to nolynch. No nightkill that night, either.
05:27
< SmithKurosaki>
wow
05:27
<@ToxicFrog>
D3, CC reports jailed me, IAOW concludes that since no nightkill occurred it's because I'm the scum.
05:28
< SmithKurosaki>
well, were you?'
05:28
<@ToxicFrog>
I, meanwhile, conclude that he deliberately targeted me (since we knew who CC was jailing) and is now trying to discredit me to get town lynched, at which point he kills that night and it's scum victory.
05:28
<@ToxicFrog>
<ToxicFrog> (either that or Twan's very ballsy scum claiming BP to cover for the fact that the jailing stopped his NK, but my money's on IAOW)
05:29
<@ToxicFrog>
Twan sides with my argument.
05:29
<@ToxicFrog>
<MafiaBot2> iamonwelfare (Vanilla Townie) has been lynched.
05:29
<@ToxicFrog>
<MafiaBot2> The game is over! Winning factions: Mafia(Twan).
05:29
< SmithKurosaki>
haha
05:29
<@ToxicFrog>
I was this close to having him.
05:31
< SmithKurosaki>
tf, too bad it wasnt lynchproof, you can test it
06:01
<@Vornicus>
"iaow"?
06:01
<@Vornicus>
oh, IAmOnWelfare
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06:15
<@Vornicus>
gs -dSAFER -q -dBATCH -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=pngalpha -sOutputFile=inside_circle_sw.png inside_circle_sw.ps
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13:02
<@gnolam>
Hmm.
13:03
<@gnolam>
Are Catmull-Rom splines C1 or C2?
13:03
<@gnolam>
Ah, C1.
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21:30 * gnolam adds "people who use javascript for layout" to the List Of People Against the Wall When The Revolution Comes.
22:00
<@jerith>
Bugger that.
22:00 * jerith shoots them now.
22:00 * gnolam applauds.
22:00
<@AnnoDomini>
I remember one guy in a seminar this week saying with pride "I'm going to have my entire site's presentation built with Javascript."
22:02
<@gnolam>
Did you silence him by jamming a usability book down his throat?
22:03
<@ToxicFrog>
His sentence is to use only Lynx for web browsing until the end times.
22:03
<@ToxicFrog>
Not even Elinks, just Lynx.
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<@AnnoDomini>
gnolam: No, for I the only thing close by was an Intel Assembler bible.
22:19
<@ToxicFrog>
Someone like that doesn't deserve your pity.
22:26
<@TheWatcher>
TF: HTTP/1.1 via telnet, you mean
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22:32
< SmithKurosaki>
tf2?
22:35 * Vornicus used javascript on an actual website today!
22:35
<@Vornicus>
Granted, it was valid-input-enforcement.
22:36
<@jerith>
Note: That;s an optimisation hack.
22:37
<@McMartin>
TF = "ToxicFrog", not "Team Fortress"
22:37
<@McMartin>
Vorn: Yeah, don't rely on that. Script kiddies use wget or curl.
22:37
<@jerith>
You must assume that any client-side code will be subverted by evil gnomes.
22:38
<@TheWatcher>
Or even pictsies.
22:40
< SmithKurosaki>
McMartin: i know, i was trying to poke him to play tf2, it didnt work the way i wanted though :(
22:40
<@gnolam>
I wouldn't call it a hack, actually.
22:41
<@gnolam>
It can be done cleanly. And properly deployed, it's not just a server load optimization but also a usability boost.
22:41
<@McMartin>
Oh, absolutely.
22:41
<@McMartin>
Immediate feedback is always better.
22:41
<@McMartin>
But you can't *rely* on it.
22:41
<@gnolam>
And you shouldn't require it.
22:42
<@gnolam>
But I'm assuming Vorn knows better. :)
22:56
<@gnolam>
HAH! I'd been reading all those old exams all wrong!
22:57
<@gnolam>
The standard transformation question is actually a /2D/ question. That makes it so much easier.
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