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| 00:45 | <@Derakon> | Beta 4's out, TF, if you didn't see my announcement earlier. |
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| 02:52 | < Consul-Laptop> | Yay. IRC works on new netbook. |
| 02:56 | <@Derakon> | Hey Consul. |
| 02:56 | <@Derakon> | Beta 4 is out~ http://aegis-soft.com/games/fusillade/ |
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| 03:01 | <@McMartin> | Yay beta 4 |
| 03:01 | | * McMartin will grab it after dinner |
| 03:01 | <@McMartin> | For SCIENCE |
| 03:01 | <@Derakon> | WISSENSCHAFT |
| 03:22 | | * Derakon realizes that the Advanced course is locked in the beta he uploaded. Dammit. |
| 03:23 | <@McMartin> | Yay, testing the reg code mechanism~ |
| 03:23 | <@Derakon> | That's more the "every time you change the Advanced course to fix a crash you need to re-set the permitted courses" mechanism. |
| 03:25 | <@Consul> | Laptop seems to have connectivity issues here in my room. In the room adjacent, it didn't have any trouble. |
| 03:26 | <@Consul> | Oh well, that's enough playing for tonight. |
| 03:26 | <@Derakon> | Arghle, have to fix the icons again...but it's not taking! |
| 03:27 | <@Derakon> | I've put fusillade.icns into Contents/Resources, and edited Info.plist, and it still has the generic icon. |
| 03:28 | | * Derakon downloads his own damn game~ |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | Looks good to me. |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | Though I have the busted one. |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | (With advanced locked) |
| 03:31 | <@Derakon> | Yeah, the uploaded one has the icon set properly. |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | Also: Beginner: 212,962 points, Counterspiral 5. |
| 03:31 | <@Derakon> | I'm now trying to replicate that again. |
| 03:31 | <@Derakon> | Nice. |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | I got my multiplier to 40-something before I took my first hit. |
| 03:31 | <@McMartin> | Homebullet = Inflector Heaven |
| 03:32 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 03:32 | <@McMartin> | Then it went downhill very fast. |
| 03:32 | <@McMartin> | I think I can use the Inflector to good effect on Machinegun as well to force the subcannons off the screen, but I haven't worked out the trick yet |
| 03:34 | <@Derakon> | Machinegun is meant to be your introduction to using the inflector to help you stay alive. |
| 03:41 | <@McMartin> | Some more suggestions: |
| 03:41 | <@McMartin> | - "pinwheel" and "pinwheel2" need different names. |
| 03:41 | <@McMartin> | At the least, they should trade them, as pinwheel2 comes first. |
| 03:42 | <@McMartin> | - "Test" pattern should go away. |
| 03:42 | <@Derakon> | Yeah. |
| 03:42 | <@McMartin> | - Patterns should be reorganized to Beginnger, Intermediate, Advanced, Extra. |
| 03:42 | <@McMartin> | - 62,655, pinwheel2 3. |
| 03:42 | <@Derakon> | The problem there is that I don't want to enforce an artificial ordering on the courses. |
| 03:42 | <@Derakon> | Right now they're sorted alphabetically by course name. |
| 03:43 | <@McMartin> | Name them 01 - Beginner, 02 - Intermediate, 03 - Advanced, 04 - Extra, then. |
| 03:43 | <@Derakon> | Yeah... |
| 03:43 | <@McMartin> | Or be a cheat and put, like, \x01 \x02 \x03 \x04 in front and use it for sorting but strip out any characters below 32 when printing. |
| 03:43 | <@Derakon> | Is that basically the equivalent of py2exe or py2app, but for Linux? |
| 03:43 | <@Derakon> | Mischan. |
| 03:44 | <@Derakon> | (Talking about freeze.py) |
| 03:44 | <@McMartin> | (Not as such; the distutils are.) |
| 03:44 | <@McMartin> | (py2exe is a distutils extension, basically.) |
| 03:44 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 03:45 | <@Derakon> | There, fixed binaries uploaded. |
| 03:52 | <@McMartin> | Homebullet 2 with Inflector locked. |
| 03:52 | <@McMartin> | (And scatterscatter 1.) |
| 03:52 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 03:52 | <@McMartin> | (Spiral levels with the inflector locked = ;_;_;_;_;_;_;) |
| 03:53 | <@Derakon> | Aww, it's okay, seven-eyes. :) |
| 04:02 | | * McMartin cracks 100,000 with the inflector locked! |
| 04:02 | <@Derakon> | Which course? |
| 04:02 | <@McMartin> | Beginner. |
| 04:02 | <@McMartin> | Because seriously, fuck Weave. |
| 04:02 | | * Vornicus is pretty sure he's never gotten over 5000. |
| 04:03 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 04:03 | <@Derakon> | Yeah, Weave with the inflector locked is...well, I've not passed it. |
| 04:03 | <@Derakon> | Not without sacrifice, anyway. |
| 04:03 | <@Derakon> | ...oh, shit. Chris, you numbskull. |
| 04:03 | <@McMartin> | ? |
| 04:03 | <@Derakon> | The version of beta 4 currently on the servers has extraneous output. |
| 04:04 | <@Derakon> | It tells me the keys for each course, which information I needed to fix the "You can't play Advanced because you haven't registered" bug. |
| 04:04 | <@Derakon> | Man, I am not together today. |
| 04:04 | <@McMartin> | Time to yank it and fix that too, I guess~ |
| 04:04 | <@Derakon> | Yep. |
| 04:07 | <@Derakon> | Argh! |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | I copied the Info.plist and fusillade.icns files from the working copy I downloaded...and the icon's still wrong! |
| 04:08 | <@Derakon> | What do you want from me, blood?! |
| 04:08 | <@McMartin> | I want dinner. |
| 04:09 | <@McMartin> | Though not from you, really; I guess I'll get takeout on the way home. |
| 04:09 | <@Derakon> | Leftovers. In the fridge. |
| 04:21 | | * Derakon scores 15132 on Advanced, turbo locked inflector, dying against windmill loop 1. |
| 04:26 | <@Derakon> | One more time, beta4 updated. |
| 04:26 | <@Derakon> | This is, like, beta 4.04. ;.; |
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| 13:52 | | * TheWatcher finishes the code for the perl port of phpBB3 session checking, now goes to see if it actually works |
| 13:53 | | * jerith goes back to testing his podcast analyser. |
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| 14:43 | <@TheWatcher> | Ahahah, it's alive! |
| 14:58 | <@gnolam> | Kill it. KILL IT WITH FIRE. |
| 14:58 | <@jerith> | It thrives on fire. |
| 14:58 | <@jerith> | Also malice. |
| 14:59 | <@TheWatcher> | And the souls of the damned, too. S'kinda nifty. |
| 14:59 | <@jerith> | Hmm. Seven lines of docstring, two lines of function body. |
| 15:00 | <@TheWatcher> | Sounds right to me |
| 15:02 | <@jerith> | Except there's a bug in those two lines. |
| 15:02 | <@jerith> | This is what happens when I try to write Haskell in Python. |
| 15:02 | <@jerith> | And I don't even know Haskell. |
| 15:02 | <@jerith> | Hah! |
| 15:03 | <@TheWatcher> | Wouldn't that be Haskthon, or maybe even pythell? |
| 15:03 | <@jerith> | You can't call len() on a generator, so I have to wrap it in a list first. |
| 15:04 | <@jerith> | s/wrap it in/convert it to/ |
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| 15:30 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: if you're committing Haskellisms, then I should warn you that length is a function that is oft considered a little unseemly, for it doth force the list's entire spine under all circumstances. :) |
| 15:31 | <@jerith> | MyCatVerbs: In this case it's a function for performing 'uniq -c' on a list of things. |
| 15:32 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: alas, the Haskellish way of doing that kinda sucks, in that it gets supra-linear complexity despite the fact that you can get it in linear time with a good hash table. :) |
| 15:33 | <@jerith> | No, this is linear. |
| 15:34 | <@jerith> | I'm requiring the list to be pre-sorted. |
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| 18:22 | <@Attilla> | Hmm, C doesn't like using ^ on floats or doubles :( there a way around this? |
| 18:22 | <@Derakon> | Cast them to ints first. |
| 18:24 | <@Attilla> | Hmm, that's a point does it mind something being to the power of a float/double or a float/double being to the power of something? |
| 18:24 | <@Derakon> | ... |
| 18:24 | <@Derakon> | ^ is not exponentiation. |
| 18:24 | <@Derakon> | It's, um, bitwise negate, I think. |
| 18:24 | <@Attilla> | It is in my books! Okay, what's taking x to the power of y in C? |
| 18:24 | <@Derakon> | I don't think there's a built-in operator for that. |
| 18:25 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Attilla: pow(x,y) from <math.h> |
| 18:25 | <@Derakon> | Thanks, MCV. My C libs blanked on me. |
| 18:25 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Attilla: in C, ^ is bitwise XOR. |
| 18:25 | <@Derakon> | Ahh. |
| 18:25 | <@Derakon> | Is ~ bitwise negate? |
| 18:25 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Yes. ^^ |
| 18:25 | <@Derakon> | Okay. |
| 18:25 | | * MyCatVerbs gives Derakon a cookie! :) |
| 18:26 | <@Attilla> | danke |
| 18:26 | <@Derakon> | I had a lab back in college where we were given a set of algorithms to implement (e.g. "count the number of "on" bits in this 32-bit value") and a limited number of operators we could use. |
| 18:27 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Attilla: also, possibly you want to use log() and exp() (natural log and powers of e) instead in most applications. :) |
| 18:28 | <@Attilla> | I have <math.h> declared but it says "undefined reference to 'pow'" |
| 18:28 | <@MyCatVerbs> | -lm to your compiler. |
| 18:30 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Undefined references are linker errors. Means either you haven't specified something to link against libfoo with -lfoo, or much more rarely that you've forgotten to include <foo.h> which defines macro BAR(..). |
| 18:30 | <@MyCatVerbs> | It's one of those weird little failings of the C language that the math library isn't linked in by default and you need to specify it manually. Ah well. |
| 18:31 | <@Derakon> | Man, I'm so glad I don't need to compile my code before running it. |
| 18:32 | <@Attilla> | Hmm, this code is getting strange, it doesn't like calculating probabilities |
| 18:32 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Derakon: in vim, :map <F12> :w<CR>:!make<CR> |
| 18:32 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Derakon: compiling your code need not take any more effort than saving it in your text editor, provided you maintain a Makefile. ^_^ |
| 18:32 | <@Derakon> | MCV: yeah, but then you have to wait for it to finish compiling before it'll run. I can just invoke it right off. |
| 18:32 | <@Derakon> | And you also need a Makefile. ¬.¬ |
| 18:33 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Derakon: you have to wait for your 'terp to parse and load the script anyway, and for it to run long enough to produce output. |
| 18:33 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 18:33 | <@Derakon> | Yes, but that's one button press. |
| 18:33 | <@Derakon> | Not a press, wait, then press again. |
| 18:33 | | * jerith has always preferred ** for exponentiation. |
| 18:34 | <@jerith> | (It's from FORTRAN, iirc.) |
| 18:34 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: Haskell provides all three. :) |
| 18:34 | <@Derakon> | I don't really mind what's used, but I'd rather languages were consistent about it. |
| 18:34 | <@Derakon> | Then again, I usually only need square, so I often end up just doing x*x. |
| 18:35 | <@jerith> | Erlang only has C's pow() function. |
| 18:35 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: but they have different semantics. (^) to raise a number to an integer power, (^^) to raise a number of type which may encode fractions to an integer power, (**) to raise a floating point number to another floating point number. :) |
| 18:35 | <@jerith> | So every time I need it for integers, I have to reimplement. |
| 18:36 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: does Erlang have arbitrarily-long integer arithmetic? |
| 18:36 | <@jerith> | Yes. |
| 18:37 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Transparently, Scheme-style? |
| 18:37 | <@jerith> | (I solved a projecteuler problem by computing the whole of 100! and then adding the digits.) |
| 18:37 | <@jerith> | Yes. |
| 18:37 | | * Derakon coughs. |
| 18:37 | <@Derakon> | That sounds like cheating to me~ |
| 18:37 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Spiffy. Thanks. |
| 18:38 | <@jerith> | Derakon: No, it's avoiding the problems caused by languages that enforce stupid size restrictions on numbers. |
| 18:38 | <@Derakon> | Granted. It still sounds like cheating. |
| 18:38 | <@jerith> | On the other hand, Erlang doesn't have arrays. |
| 18:38 | <@Derakon> | Since AIUI the Project Euler problems are not supposed to be straightforwardly solved. |
| 18:38 | <@jerith> | So some things are linear time instead of constant. |
| 18:39 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Derakon: 100! is only 93326215443944152681699238856266700490715968264381621468592963895217599993229915 608941463976156518286253697920827223758251185210916864000000000000000000000000. :) |
| 18:39 | <@Derakon> | No random indexing? |
| 18:39 | <@jerith> | Derakon: Some of them are pretty simple, though. |
| 18:39 | <@jerith> | They're all linked lists, iirc. |
| 18:39 | <@Derakon> | No random indexing. |
| 18:39 | <@jerith> | Because of immutable state. |
| 18:40 | <@jerith> | lists:nth(7, mylist) |
| 18:40 | <@jerith> | (Or something like that.) |
| 18:40 | <@jerith> | But it has to walk the list to get there. |
| 18:40 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Er? Erlang isn't pure, and Erlang data structures aren't shared. Why would it need to not have arrays? |
| 18:41 | <@Attilla> | Hmm, i'm trying to remember the short hand for declaring that a value that is being printed/scanned is a double. It's not %d is it? |
| 18:41 | <@jerith> | Same reason Haskell doesn't, I expect. |
| 18:42 | <@Derakon> | %d is ints. |
| 18:42 | <@Derakon> | %f is floats. |
| 18:42 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: ...I have news for you. :) |
| 18:42 | <@Attilla> | Yeah, but what about doubles? |
| 18:42 | <@Attilla> | I use %f to refer to a double and everything goes haywire or something |
| 18:42 | <@Derakon> | I've never needed more than maybe 5 digits of accuracy when printing. *shrug* |
| 18:42 | <@Attilla> | Well i'm dealing with factorials. |
| 18:43 | <@Attilla> | So I think I need the additional accuracy. |
| 18:43 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Attilla: Then you have another problem. %f refers to double specifically, not float. |
| 18:44 | <@Attilla> | Hmm? So what refers to floats then? |
| 18:45 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Nothing, according to the man page here. Presumably you have to cast 'em to doubles. |
| 18:45 | <@jerith> | Oh, I was confused there for a bit. |
| 18:45 | <@jerith> | I think it's more to do with immutability than anything else. |
| 18:46 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: in Haskell, you have Data.Map for immutable log-time indexed sets. Data.IntMap is an optimized version for when the keys are Int (that's the fixed integer type) specifically. |
| 18:47 | <@jerith> | And with the fact that lists can hold arbitrary objects. |
| 18:47 | <@jerith> | Actually, I don't really know what I'm talking about. |
| 18:48 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: then there's Data.Array.*. IArray provides immutable arrays - O(1) access, O(n) update, persistent. IO provides mutable arrays in - O(1) access, O(1) update, ephemeral and only in the IO monad. |
| 18:48 | <@jerith> | There's ets (Erlang Term Storage, iirc) for mutable key->value storage. |
| 18:48 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: that sounds more like it. :) |
| 18:49 | <@jerith> | ets can provide O(1) lookup for unordered data or O(log(n)) for ordered data. |
| 18:49 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Haskell also has a lot of other little variations - e.g. Data.Array.Diff, Data.Hashtable - but they're not always all that useful. ^^ |
| 18:49 | <@jerith> | There's a pretty heavy performance hit for using it, though. |
| 18:50 | <@jerith> | I very seldom actually need random lookups, though. |
| 18:50 | <@jerith> | Usually I'm walking a list. |
| 18:51 | <@Derakon> | Usually when I need random lookups, I also need non-integer-based lookups. |
| 18:51 | <@Derakon> | Go hashtables! |
| 18:51 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Derakon: balanced trees FTW. Requires only that the keys are orderable - which, when you think about it, is actually a much less strenuous requirement than being able to calculate good hashes from them. :) |
| 18:52 | <@Derakon> | Ahh, my hash tables usually have maybe 10 elements. |
| 18:52 | <@Derakon> | That's not much of a tree~ |
| 18:52 | <@jerith> | Newer Erlang has an array module, which gives you immutable tree-and-tuple-based arrays. |
| 18:53 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: that'd be the same idea as Data.Map, by the sound of it. ^_^ |
| 18:54 | <@jerith> | Oh, right. How could I forget tuples? |
| 18:54 | <@jerith> | They're O(1) lookup, O(n) update. |
| 18:56 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: same as Data.IArray. ^^ |
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| 20:29 | <@Derakon> | Hrmph. My approach here is fundamentally flawed. |
| 20:29 | <@Derakon> | On mods/upload.php, I need to a) show that the user is signed in, or b) tell them that they need to sign in before uploading. |
| 20:30 | <@Derakon> | TW's kindly provided a Perl module to let me get the signed-in status and username. |
| 20:30 | <@Derakon> | Which means that I could have e.g. uploadprep.cgi get that data, then redirect to upload.php. |
| 20:30 | <@Derakon> | But then users who go straight to upload.php get weird behavior. That's no good. |
| 20:33 | | * jerith considers. |
| 20:33 | <@Derakon> | And I could have upload.php check for a username, and if none is provided, redirect to uploadprep.cgi...but that just gets silly. |
| 20:33 | <@jerith> | Can't you ask the perl thing from inside the php? |
| 20:33 | <@Derakon> | How? |
| 20:34 | | * jerith considers. |
| 20:34 | <@jerith> | I can't think of an easy way, but I try to avoid thinking about php in general. |
| 20:34 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 20:40 | <@jerith> | I have a matter of grave urgency and importance to put before this forum. |
| 20:41 | <@jerith> | There is a piece of software that needs a name. |
| 20:41 | <@Derakon> | Call it "Pancakes". |
| 20:42 | <@jerith> | It basically takes a bunch of directories full of mp3s (or m4as) and turns them into a matching bunch of podcast feeds. |
| 20:45 | <@Vornicus> | Podcakes. |
| 20:45 | <@jerith> | That... could actually work. |
| 20:45 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 20:45 | <@Derakon> | The script bakes your sound files into podcakes. :) |
| 20:45 | <@jerith> | It's the working name for now, at least. |
| 20:45 | <@jerith> | Thanks. |
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| 21:04 | <@Derakon> | Let this not be you! http://www.xkcdb.com/?5088 |
| 21:06 | <@gnolam> | :D |
| 21:07 | <@jerith> | He got *windows* to boot from 128mb storage!? |
| 21:07 | <@jerith> | In other news, podcakes seems to be taken. :-( |
| 21:07 | <@Derakon> | Well, he got the embedded platform builder installed. |
| 21:07 | <@Derakon> | We didn't hear anything about it after that. |
| 21:09 | <@jerith> | podfudge seems free, but it doesn't have the same ring to it. |
| 21:10 | <@jerith> | PODMUFFINS! |
| 21:10 | <@Derakon> | Hee. |
| 21:10 | <@jerith> | The .com, .net and .org domains are all available. |
| 21:21 | <@Derakon> | Bloogh. Make the mods DB work, advertise the site, or start working on Selene... |
| 21:21 | <@Derakon> | I really should do those in that order, but I wanna work on Selene instead. ;.; |
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| 21:45 | <@Consul> | What's a quick and dirty way to set up a samba share on Fedora 10 so I can copy some stuff to a Windows machine? |
| 21:46 | <@Consul> | An app where I can tell it "share that directory, kthxbye" would be great. |
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| 21:59 | <@Vornicus> | what is Selene? |
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| 22:14 | <@Derakon> | Right. I've determined that I'm sick. That explains why I can't concentrate. |
| 22:14 | <@Derakon> | That said, no code today. |
| 22:14 | <@Derakon> | Instead I'll start working on design and assets for Selene. |
| 22:15 | <@Vornicus> | What is Selene, now that you're actually here to ask? |
| 22:15 | < Searh> | How can sickness exclude concentration? |
| 22:15 | <@Derakon> | Heh. |
| 22:15 | <@Derakon> | Searh: headaches and fatigue, mostly. |
| 22:15 | <@Derakon> | Vorn: Selene is my Lunatic Fringe imitation. |
| 22:15 | <@Vornicus> | aha |
| 22:15 | < Searh> | Fatigue? Go to sleep. |
| 22:15 | < Searh> | Headaches? Doesn't pose much a hindrance to me. |
| 22:16 | <@McMartin> | Then you aren't thinking hard enough~ |
| 22:16 | <@Derakon> | I'm inclined to agree with McM here... |
| 22:16 | < Searh> | Heh. |
| 22:16 | < Searh> | I like headaches. |
| 22:16 | <@Derakon> | Your brain uses a tremendous amount of energy when you're thinking hard. |
| 22:16 | <@Derakon> | O_o |
| 22:16 | < Searh> | Well, not the nagging sort. |
| 22:16 | <@Derakon> | Anyway, this isn't the kind of fatigue that sleep cures. I got a good nine and a half hours last night. |
| 22:16 | < Searh> | But a good headache is nice. |
| 22:16 | < Searh> | Especially the delerium inducing ones. |
| 22:17 | <@Derakon> | Anyway, Lunatic Fringe is a freeranging 2D scrolling shmup. |
| 22:17 | < Searh> | Derakon: My philosophy is to sleep when I'm tired. |
| 22:17 | | * TheWatcher sighs vaguely, applies liberal stabbings to the phpBB3 developers |
| 22:17 | <@Derakon> | Searh: assuming I could sleep instead of vaguely tossing and turning for a while, I'd wake up an hour later, still not feeling all that hot, but with the added bonus of an out-of-kilter sleep schedule. |
| 22:17 | <@Derakon> | But anyway, if it works for you, great. |
| 22:26 | | * Vornicus should work on Realm's Ransom or VornMoO, which still needs a decent name. |
| 22:26 | < Searh> | Meh, schedule. |
| 22:47 | | * TheWatcher vaguely ponders returning arrays v arrayrefs in perl, does some tests |
| 22:50 | <@gnolam> | Hmm. |
| 22:51 | <@gnolam> | To get the Source SDK to compile, to work on the projects I haven't touched for a month, or lie on the couch and watch TV, that is the question. |
| 22:53 | <@Derakon> | Hm...I'm worried that this is becoming too general. |
| 22:53 | <@Derakon> | I want Selene to be moddable, but "moddability" in terms of a scrolling space shmup is a rather vague term. |
| 22:53 | <@Derakon> | Since I plan to implement upgrades, obviously the upgrades should be moddable. |
| 22:53 | <@Derakon> | Ditto for the enemy ships. |
| 22:53 | <@Derakon> | But that starts to get pretty complicated. |
| 22:58 | <@McMartin> | Get it working first, then get it refactored. |
| 22:58 | <@McMartin> | Remember what happened to Niobium. |
| 22:58 | <@Derakon> | I know! |
| 23:02 | <@TheWatcher> | Niobium? |
| 23:07 | <@Vornicus> | Derakon: the obvious answer is to make each object a bulletml emitter. |
| 23:07 | <@Derakon> | Don't think I hadn't thought of that, Vorn~ |
| 23:07 | <@Derakon> | Unfortunately, bullet hell and inertia don't mix. |
| 23:07 | <@Vornicus> | Point. |
| 23:07 | <@Derakon> | TW: Niobium was my college attempt to reimplement Flash, more or less. |
| 23:07 | <@TheWatcher> | Ah, okies. |
| 23:07 | <@Derakon> | A fully-generic 2D sprite-based game engine with Lua scripting. |
| 23:07 | <@Vornicus> | You'll have to mod bulletml itself to handle momentum. |
| 23:08 | <@Derakon> | Vorn: I more meant that any remotely interesting bullet pattern is impossibly hard if your ship keeps moving after you lift up on the keys. |
| 23:08 | <@Derakon> | Bullets have inertia if you let them. |
| 23:08 | <@Vornicus> | Well, yes |
| 23:09 | <@Vornicus> | But BulletML is itself very flexible; you can make very small bullet patterns. |
| 23:12 | <@Derakon> | Vim question: I want to remove the EOL character (i.e. merge the current line with the line following). How? |
| 23:14 | <@Derakon> | Ah. 'j' does what I need. |
| 23:16 | <@Derakon> | Design doc posted on my LJ. http://derakon.livejournal.com/317509.html |
| 23:52 | <@McMartin> | 15:07 <@Derakon> Unfortunately, bullet hell and inertia don't mix. |
| 23:52 | <@McMartin> | If you want to see what happens when you try, I suggest trying out Target Acquired, my old HS project. |
| 23:52 | <@Derakon> | Is that the endless-waves-of-fighters game? |
| 23:52 | <@McMartin> | 2D, yes. |
| 23:52 | <@McMartin> | Sable is the 3D one which was my college graphics final. |
| 23:53 | <@McMartin> | TA was my "port this to SDL to prove my worth to Reiche and Ford" project most recently. |
| 23:53 | <@Derakon> | I don't know those names... |
| 23:54 | <@McMartin> | http://www.stanford.edu/~mcmartin/target/ |
| 23:54 | <@McMartin> | Reiche and Ford run teh company "Toys for Bob" and used to basically be the entire company. |
| 23:54 | <@McMartin> | Back when they wrote Star Control. |
| 23:54 | <@Derakon> | Ahh, right. |
| 23:55 | <@McMartin> | Hmm. I should move TA and Sable both over to HKN. |
| 23:56 | <@Derakon> | ...I see what you mean. Score 5950 on my first try. |
| 23:56 | <@Derakon> | Though that included an "Oh, the little blue things aren't powerups" moment. |
| 23:56 | <@McMartin> | They're *kind* of powerups. But you shoot them. |
| 23:56 | <@McMartin> | You can also wiggle and thus hose down most of the screen while staying mostly still. |
| 23:57 | <@McMartin> | You can disable inertial, but a lot of the boss graphics glitch when you do. ;_; |
| 23:58 | <@Derakon> | ...did you add some Zanac-style "he's shooting too much" responsiveness to this? |
| 23:58 | <@McMartin> | No, it's just randomly generated fleets. |
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