code logs -> 2008 -> Mon, 17 Nov 2008< code.20081116.log - code.20081118.log >
--- Log opened Mon Nov 17 00:00:31 2008
01:28
<@Serah>
Easily readable to me.
01:28
<@Serah>
Hmmm...
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02:01
<@Consul>
Query: does a strong magnet thoroughly (as in, completely unreadable) destroy the data on a 3.5" floppy disk?
02:03
<@Consul>
I have a bunch of old 3.5" disks, and I want to do some sort of art project with them, take some photos of it, then give it away.
02:03
<@Consul>
The issue is, I need to be sure I can destroy whatever data is on them.
02:06
<@gnolam>
Go find yourself a degausser and apply it to them.
02:06
<@Consul>
I was hoping I could use materials on hand...
02:07
<@gnolam>
In that case, just do a secure format...
02:07
<@Consul>
You say "just go find a degausser" as if they're at every drug store for 50 cents for four minutes like an air pump. :-P
02:07
<@Consul>
I have no floppy drives anywhere in house anymore.
02:07
<@Consul>
Haven't for about three years now.
02:08
<@McMartin>
Consul: No guarantees.
02:08
<@McMartin>
You need magnetic motion, and you need it in random changes.
02:09
<@gnolam>
A floppy drive costs, what, $10?
02:09
<@Consul>
I have a bunch of neodym magnets.
02:09
<@gnolam>
(Of course, you don't /buy/ components like that. You scrounge them.)
02:10
<@gnolam>
(Electronics recycling bins FTW.)
02:10
<@Vornicus>
consul: the other way of destroying the data on the disk is to physically mangle the disk.
02:10
<@Consul>
I could open each one, yank and shred the media, then seal them up again. :-)
02:11
<@Vornicus>
quite. Or stuff a knife through the access hole.
02:11
<@Consul>
They'll get epoxied to something anyway.
02:13
<@Consul>
I still have no idea what art piece this will be. I just know it will take some kind of advantage of the rainbow of colors of disks.
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02:32
<@Consul>
Cool! I can pry apart the top edge of the disk, yank out the media, tear out the hub and put the hub back into place, and it still looks like a floppy.
02:35
<@McMartin>
That'll work.
02:35
<@McMartin>
Feed the magnetics into a shredder and your data is gone.
02:37
<@Consul>
Indeed.
02:37
<@Consul>
I *do* have one of those.
02:37
<@Consul>
Say, how do you bold your text? I can't recall how...
02:38
<@Vornicus>
What client?
02:38
<@Consul>
xchat
02:38
<@Vornicus>
%B
02:38
<@Consul>
Like %Bthis%B ?
02:39
<@Consul>
Err, obviously not...
02:39
<@Vornicus>
hrm
02:39
<@Consul>
Ctrl-B maybe?
02:39
<@Vornicus>
it's %B on my thing
02:39
<@Consul>
like this ?
02:39
<@Consul>
There we go!
02:39
<@Vornicus>
normal bold normal
02:39
<@Consul>
Ctrl-B does the job.
02:40
<@Consul>
Now I can use tons of bold like you guys always do!
02:40
<@Consul>
Hang on...
02:40
<@Consul>
My bold is more gray than yours is.
02:40
<@McMartin>
REVERSE VIDEO is a sure sign of an unbalanced mind
02:41
<@McMartin>
That's your client being weird. It's uniform on irssi
02:41
<@Consul>
Does my text look bold to everyone else?
02:42
<@Consul>
So, now I need an idea for an art project using floppies. My first thought was to do some kind of pixel art, but that seems too obvious.
02:43
<@Consul>
Oh, I know why my bold looks more gray! Because my own text shows up as gray instead of black. Never mind.
02:44
<@Vornicus>
mine does too.
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03:14
<@Derakon>
Whee text styling.
03:14
<@Derakon>
(Sorry, I'm late to the show)
03:15
<@Consul>
I don't know how to do the reverse, and that's probably a good thing.
03:21
<@Serah>
Is my electronics the only electronics to regenerate??
03:21
<@Serah>
I've had a dead pixel for 5 years, now it tends to wink out and be not-dead.
03:22
<@Serah>
My tape recorder when I was younger, I dropped it and it broke (filled the headphones with static) but after a while it was fine.
03:24
<@Serah>
And it's not the only incidents.
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04:31
<@ToxicFrog>
Serah: it's not just you.
04:31
<@Serah>
Oh?
04:31
<@ToxicFrog>
WRT: mysteriously healing electronics.
04:36
<@Serah>
I know the topic.
04:36
<@Serah>
Dunno what WRT man though.
04:39
<@ToxicFrog>
With Respect To.
04:51
<@Serah>
You experienced this?
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04:57
<@ToxicFrog>
Serah: yes.
04:57
<@ToxicFrog>
Most recently with a mysteriously resurrecting laptop.
04:57
<@Serah>
Hmmm... I wonder if it's the circuitry that burns a clearer path into the plastic, or...
04:59
<@ToxicFrog>
Just went totally dead one day, wouldn't even POST.
04:59
<@ToxicFrog>
Left it on my desk for a month and it started working fine again.
05:28
< Alek|away>
reverse is ctrl-R of course.
05:28
< Alek|away>
and underline, ctrl-U
05:28
< Alek|away>
and if you've forgotten what-all codes you've used, ctrl-O brings you back to normal.
05:28
< Alek|away>
then there's the ctrl-K color code set.
05:41
<@ToxicFrog>
Incidentally, these are respectively ^B, ^R, ^_, ^O and ^C in the underlying protocol
05:42
<@ToxicFrog>
^X being the control code emitted by ctrl+X.
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05:57
<@Consul>
That was a bit scary. My computer spontaneously shut down and I heard a slight pop.
05:57
<@Consul>
It seems to still work, but I'm a but nervous now.
05:57
<@Derakon>
Might be a good idea to leave it off until you can give it a physical.
05:58
<@Consul>
Well, I do need to crack in anyway to reconnect an internal USB connector, so I'll do that tomorrow.
05:59
<@Consul>
I don't even know where to start.
05:59
<@Consul>
And I have no gear to test a computer anymore.
05:59
<@Consul>
Maybe I can find some bootable CD image out there somewhere with some diag software.
06:01
<@Consul>
I need to go to bed, but any suggestions would be welcome. Night, all.
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code logs -> 2008 -> Mon, 17 Nov 2008< code.20081116.log - code.20081118.log >