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| 04:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | Argh |
| 04:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | Turning a native partition into a VirtualBox image is way too much like work |
| 04:18 | <@McMartin> | If you're feeling really brave you could use the Raw Driver~ |
| 04:20 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'm actually considering that, especially if I can mount it readonly. |
| 04:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | The basic issue I seem to be having is that simply going "turn this partition into a VDI" doesn't work, because now you have no partition table or anything. |
| 04:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | "migrating windows" doesn't help, it assumes you already have a VDI. |
| 04:21 | <@ToxicFrog> | The best approach I've found on the forums so far is: |
| 04:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | - create a raw VDI mapped to the partition you're interested in |
| 04:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | - create a standard VDI large enough to hold that + drive metadata |
| 04:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | - boot a windows VM, partition and format the standard VDI |
| 04:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | - mount them both |
| 04:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | - xcopy the raw to the standard |
| 04:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | - shut down the VM, map the standard as the pri master of another VM, boot that VM from the windows install disc and choose "repair" to fix the MBR and HAL |
| 04:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | - use the recovery console to delete agp440.sys and intelppm.sys |
| 04:23 | <@ToxicFrog> | Done! |
| 04:27 | <@McMartin> | Hrm. I'm actually very surprised there's no "dd of doom" |
| 04:27 | <@McMartin> | ... though you want just one partition, not the whole disk |
| 04:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | (why am I doing all this? Because - despite having been installed from the same disc image, with the same wireless hardware and wireless driver, the native install can talk to the wlan and the VM install can't. Oh, and the set of options reported as exposed by the driver is completely different between the two, too.) |
| 04:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | There is a "dd of doom", but I want just one partition. |
| 04:27 | <@ToxicFrog> | Also, it doesn't work like dd. |
| 04:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | You can't use it on device nodes, only on normal files, because it uses stat() to determine how large the VDI should be. |
| 04:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | And stat() on a device special will report size as 0. |
| 04:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | So you have to dd the device to a regular file, then VBoxManage convertdd the image into a VDI. |
| 04:48 | < Doctor_Nick> | i just use samba to transfer files to the virtual image |
| 04:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'm trying to transfer an OS install here. |
| 04:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | A windows OS install, which means it's incredibly fragile. |
| 04:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | Even in the best case I'll have to boot the VM from the recovery disc and reconstruct the MBR and HAL. |
| 04:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | I suppose it might be possible to mount the windows install on the host, the target VDI in the guest, apply shared folders and rsync everything over, then repair it and see if that works... |
| 04:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | Faster than xcopy dickery, if it works. |
| 04:51 | <@Shoukanjuu> | I think I broke my VMWare's ability to use tthe bootcamp partititon by introducing Parallels into the mix. Woe is the idiot. |
| 04:52 | <@McMartin> | I need to look into Crossover |
| 04:52 | <@McMartin> | Since I strong suspect that even with translation my MBP will run TF2 and Portal better than Zinglon does. |
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| 05:33 | <@Reiver> | Question: Firefox 3 for Windows. |
| 05:33 | <@Reiver> | Download, or ahahahahano? |
| 05:54 | <@McMartin> | Sure why not |
| 06:02 | < Doctor_Nick> | download that shit |
| 06:17 | <@Reiver> | Okay. I just wasn't sure if it was a Huge Klutz at the moment, yet. |
| 06:17 | <@Reiver> | (I tend to be suspicious of New Releases, etc~) |
| 06:23 | <@McMartin> | Not all that new anymore |
| 06:24 | <@Reiver> | Hokay, den |
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| 12:34 | | * TheWatcher eyes this code |
| 12:35 | <@TheWatcher> | Y'know, people ask me why I comment my code so heavily these days. Maybe I should show them this from three years ago, and ask /them/ to understand WTF it's doing in the 20 or more lines of code between comments... |
| 12:35 | | * TheWatcher ponders going back in time to give himself a serious kick up the arse |
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| 16:07 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 16:50 | | * gnolam ponders optoisolators. |
| 16:58 | <@gnolam> | And I also wonder if I dare dissect this flash unit - if I'll electrocute myself (again) or so. |
| 17:00 | <@TheWatcher> | Insulated screwdrivers and/or gloves = win. |
| 17:04 | <@Reiver> | So, in windows XP - is there any way to set it so users have only a limited amount of space for their stuff? |
| 17:06 | <@TheWatcher> | http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/topics/win2003/quotas.mspx - checked this? |
| 17:06 | <@TheWatcher> | http://www.windowsreference.com/windows-xp/enable-disk-quotas-in-xp/ - or this? |
| 17:06 | | EvilDarkLord is now known as Zenon |
| 17:07 | | * TheWatcher can't actually check them himself as he's currently in linux |
| 17:21 | <@McMartin> | http://kotaku.com/5044066/scummvm-now-officially-supports-the-wii-and-gamecube |
| 17:28 | <@TheWatcher> | Hm, Anyone know of a reliable way to test the maximum transfer rate between two machines on a LAN, other than just transferring a honking great file and see how long it takes? |
| 17:40 | <@TheWatcher> | hm. netio will give it to me in KByte/s, which is close enough |
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| 17:47 | <@Shoukanjuu> | They're supporting it officially, now, then? |
| 17:47 | <@Shoukanjuu> | very nice |
| 17:48 | | * TheWatcher headdesks, has realised why this regexp has been failing. Anyone spot the obvious error: te between two machines on a LAN, other @TheWatch~ than just transferring a honking great file and see how long it takes? @ToxicFrog |
| 17:48 | <@TheWatcher> | 17:40:37 <@TheWatcher> hm. netio will give it to me in KByte/s, which is close enough @Zenon |
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| 17:48 | <@TheWatcher> | 17:45:47 -!- C_tiger [~c_wyz@Nightstar-4230.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #code Consul |
| 17:48 | | * TheWatcher eyes |
| 17:49 | <@TheWatcher> | um, oops? |
| 17:50 | <@TheWatcher> | stupid fucking rightclick... anyway: while(my $iface = $ifh -> fetchrow_arrayref) { my $name = $iface -> [1]; my ($inbyte, $outbyte) = $netdev =~ m{$name\:\s*(\d+)(?:\s+\d+){7}\s+(\d+)}mo; print "$inbyte in, $outbyte out\n"; } - now, I wonder why that print always printed the same values >.> |
| 17:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | That was a comically mangled paste. |
| 17:55 | <@TheWatcher> | Yeah. >.< |
| 18:03 | | Vornicus-Latens is now known as Vornicus |
| 18:41 | <@gnolam> | http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/images/13.jpg <- Google Chrome! So world-changing it'll merge Denmark, Germany, Switzerland, Holland and Belgium! And then rename Poland Denmark instead! |
| 18:43 | | * Vornicus patpats gnolam. |
| 18:47 | <@gnolam> | Well, except possibly Switzerland and Belgium, we've been to war with all of them. So I have reason to be worried. ;) |
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| 18:48 | <@TheWatcher> | gnolam: except that Belgium doesn't exist, of course... ¬¬ |
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| 18:51 | <@gnolam> | Unfortunately it does. |
| 18:52 | <@TheWatcher> | but.. but... http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Belgium ! |
| 18:56 | | * gnolam labels one side of this pin diagram "FRONT TOWARDS ENEMY" so he'll know which side is which. |
| 18:56 | <@gnolam> | TheWatcher: :) |
| 18:59 | <@gnolam> | But... but... the Uncyclopedia is wrong! How can this be? |
| 19:00 | <@gnolam> | It says Swedes don't have souls. But we do: http://plif.courageunfettered.com/archive/wc146.gif |
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| 20:23 | < Doctor_Nick> | FUCK CHROME |
| 20:30 | <@gnolam> | No thanks. I think it'll chafe. |
| 20:34 | <@gnolam> | http://www.gnu.org/fry/# <- Stephen Fry on GNU. |
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| 23:01 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
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| 23:42 | <@McMartin> | What's the difference between Chrome, Konqueror, and Safari, anyway? |
| 23:51 | | * Vornicus doesn't knwo. |
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| 23:52 | | * McMartin asks re those specifically because AFAHK they're all WebKit. |
| 23:53 | < Vornicus> | Which is why I don't know. |
| 23:53 | < Consul> | WebKit is only a rendering library for HTML. |
| 23:53 | < Consul> | You still need to build an app around it, which can take many forms. |
| 23:54 | < Consul> | But I'm sure you know that already. |
| 23:54 | <@McMartin> | Sure, but these are all Standard GUI Apps. |
| 23:54 | <@McMartin> | AFAIK. |
| 23:54 | <@McMartin> | Unless Chrome does something wacky somewhere. |
| 23:54 | < Consul> | Read the comic on the site. |
| 23:54 | < Consul> | It explains everything. |
| 23:54 | <@McMartin> | But again AFAIK the only difference between Konqueror and Safari is that one plays better with KDE and the other with OS X. |
| 23:54 | < Consul> | If in a stupid way. :-P |
| 23:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | "the comic on the site" is kind of inspecific. |
| 23:56 | < Consul> | I need voice... |
| 23:56 | | mode/#code [+ooooo C_tiger Consul Doctor_Nick Syloqs-AFH Vornicus] by Vornicus |
| 23:56 | <@McMartin> | I see some text |
| 23:56 | <@Consul> | http://www.google.com/googlebooks/chrome/# |
| 23:56 | <@McMartin> | There's one large difference from FF-based browsers, at least |
| 23:56 | <@McMartin> | In that they're deliberately and correctly violating the JavaScript standards to make it harder to get pwnt |
| 23:57 | <@McMartin> | But I actually don't know if that's them or just WebKit |
| 23:57 | <@Consul> | WebKit and Javascript have nothing to do with each other, AFAIK. |
| 23:58 | <@Consul> | And I'm gonna stop there, as I feel I may regret ever saying anything in here. :-P |
| 23:58 | <@McMartin> | Heh |
| 23:58 | <@McMartin> | My knowledge of this is mostly second-hand |
| 23:58 | <@Vornicus> | ...a... sad tab. |
| 23:58 | <@McMartin> | But part of that knowledge is "JavaScript is overspecified and this hoses the crap out of compliant implementations of browsers using it" |
| 23:59 | <@McMartin> | The bit with the separate processes for each tab, for instance, is AIUI explicitly disallowed by the standard. |
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