code logs -> 2008 -> Thu, 14 Aug 2008< code.20080813.log - code.20080815.log >
--- Log opened Thu Aug 14 00:00:20 2008
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02:39 * McMartin casually attempts to dereference string data.
02:39
<@McMartin>
Whoops.
02:46
<@Derakon>
I'd be more worried if it had worked.
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10:51
<@EvilDarkLord>
I need a description of PHP. Currently I have "PHP is great for writing quick hacks you will never understand later, but with some work you can write code that will be understood by some people on some days."
10:55
< jerith>
"PHP drowns puppies and eats kittens."
10:55
< jerith>
"PHP's greatest strength is also its greatest weakness. The very thing that makes it easy to get into makes it unusable for anything requiring more than a few tens of lines of code."
10:56
<@EvilDarkLord>
Ah, that's pretty good. Thanks.
10:56
<@EvilDarkLord>
(That'd be the 20,000 functions in one namespace?)
10:56
< jerith>
That would be mixing code and presentation.
10:57
< jerith>
But yeah, a million functions in one namespace does it too.
10:57
<@EvilDarkLord>
Projects like Smarty avoid that though.
10:57
<@EvilDarkLord>
But by default, people suck and don't use it. Or don't have the libs available for whatever reason on a shared server and don't use it.
10:58
< jerith>
PHP encourages writing bad code and makes writing good code difficult.
11:00
<@TheWatcher>
PHP is what happens when someone tries to take bits of c, perl and html, shoves them all together and somehow manage to end up with the bad points of all of them and none of the good.
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15:27 * TheWatcher stabs Microsoft
15:28
<@TheWatcher>
why the hell do the see the need to stick _ in front of stat? *Stabstab*
15:29
<@ToxicFrog>
Because if they didn't, it would be easier to write cross-platform software, and less stuff would be windows exclusive.
15:30
<@TheWatcher>
Blegh
15:30
<@TheWatcher>
Bastards.
16:15
< jerith>
#ifdef WINDOWS
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< jerith>
#define stat(x) _stat(x)
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< jerith>
#endif
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< jerith>
Something like that?
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--- Log closed Fri Aug 15 00:00:29 2008
code logs -> 2008 -> Thu, 14 Aug 2008< code.20080813.log - code.20080815.log >