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| 04:58 | < Chi> | <Maximbo> People, do all admins dream of routing tables, or is it time to visit a shrink? :( |
| 04:58 | < Shoukanjuu> | Heh heh |
| 04:59 | <@Finerty> | Visit a shrink. |
| 05:00 | < Chi> | hehehe |
| 05:00 | < Chi> | it's an old quote from BOR |
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| 06:15 | < Chi|Gone> | <n> aha. a true admin must in his life write three things: his own sendmail.cf, his own billing, and a phrase that will get onto bash.org.ru |
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| 22:21 | | * Vornicus checks out the Python svn repository, for great justice, and his first patch for a major oss project. |
| 22:21 | <@EvilDarkLord> | Ooo, shiny. |
| 22:22 | <@jerith> | Vornicus: What patch? |
| 22:22 | <@Vornicus> | (I'm rewriting the bisect module for extra features and removing duplication) |
| 22:23 | <@jerith> | My patch for issue #1491 has been awaiting a committer for yonks. |
| 22:25 | <@Vornicus> | (now instead of four seven-line functions and two aliases there is a single 21-line function and five one-line functions; it now handles cmp, key, and reverse the way sort does, and you can choose between left and right bisection via a flag) |
| 22:28 | <@EvilDarkLord> | (Also, have a SWF link. http://tinyurl.com/6rnn3g ) |
| 22:28 | <@AnnoDomini> | This is nifty. |
| 22:29 | | * jerith learns Haskell. |
| 22:29 | <@Vornicus> | in short, it is an end-to-end upgrade that does half a dozen awesome things. |
| 22:30 | <@jerith> | Vorn: Does it change established APIs? |
| 22:30 | <@Vornicus> | It does not; all the additional parameters are optional. |
| 22:30 | <@jerith> | This is good. :-) |
| 22:31 | <@ToxicFrog> | jerith: interesting; I got at least one person in #lua interested in Haskell today. |
| 22:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | I guess functional programming is in the air. |
| 22:32 | <@jerith> | I've left my language for the year about 6 months late, but better late than never. |
| 22:33 | <@Vornicus> | Right now, I am trying to rewrite the C side. This is going to be entertaining. |
| 22:34 | | * Vornicus then /eyes/ EDL's link. wtf? |
| 22:36 | <@Vornicus> | Well, okay, I did change /one/ part of the API. |
| 22:37 | <@Vornicus> | In the current version the list input (the first parameter) is called 'a'; in mine it is called 'seq' or 'lst' depending on whether it requires the sequence to be mutable or not. |
| 22:41 | <@jerith> | So, Ruby rant of the evening. |
| 22:41 | <@jerith> | What do you expect to get from the following expression: "foo"[-1] |
| 22:42 | <@jerith> | "o" would be reasonable, no? |
| 22:42 | <@jerith> | How about 111? |
| 22:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | ... |
| 22:43 | <@jerith> | Because you *obviously* want a number when you look at the nth element of a string. |
| 22:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | What's the logic behind that? |
| 22:43 | <@jerith> | Now, try this: "foo"[-1..-1] |
| 22:43 | <@Vornicus> | that'll be o, won't it? |
| 22:44 | <@Vornicus> | I know they were going to fix that. |
| 22:44 | <@jerith> | The difference is that we're asking for a /range/ of characters. A range containing only one character, but still. |
| 22:44 | <@jerith> | It took me 15 minutes to debug some code this evening because of that little gem. |
| 22:44 | <@jerith> | TF: I suspect it's a bug from the C layer or something. |
| 22:45 | <@jerith> | Anyways. |
| 22:45 | <@Vornicus> | It's not a bug |
| 22:45 | <@Vornicus> | it's a feature |
| 22:45 | <@Vornicus> | that was intentional, but damned if I know why. |
| 22:45 | <@jerith> | It's unexpected and useless. That makes it a bug. |
| 22:46 | <@jerith> | A design bug, perhaps, but still. |
| 22:46 | <@jerith> | Maybe it's not unexpected if you're coming from Erlang, but at least strings in Erlang are /consistently/ lists of integers. |
| 22:47 | <@jerith> | Also, Erlang "strings" can do unicode a crapload better than Ruby. |
| 22:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | Where does 111 come from!? |
| 22:53 | <@jerith> | ord("o") |
| 22:53 | <@ToxicFrog> | Aah. |
| 22:53 | <@jerith> | (You don't have an ASCII table in your head?) |
| 22:55 | | * Vornicus would have recognized it more quickly if you'd said 0x6f. |
| 22:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yeah. |
| 22:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | I don't have an ASCII table in decimal. |
| 22:55 | <@jerith> | True. |
| 22:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | Base ten is for crazy people~ |
| 22:58 | | * gnolam should really learn Erlang some day. |
| 23:06 | <@gnolam> | It's on my todo list. |
| 23:06 | <@jerith> | It's really a very nice language. |
| 23:14 | <@gnolam> | I need something to actually do with it to learn it though... |
| 23:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | I used it for my Distributed Systems course. |
| 23:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | After getting confirmation from the prof that, yes, I could use any language I wanted as long as I was willing to give the TA a crash course if needed. |
| 23:19 | | * gnolam gets an idea for a project. |
| 23:19 | <@gnolam> | Hah. |
| 23:19 | <@gnolam> | jerith: guess whose site is the first google result for "erlang sockets"? :) |
| 23:20 | <@jerith> | That would be me. :-) |
| 23:20 | <@jerith> | I won a copy of Joe's book for that, actually. |
| 23:20 | <@jerith> | (It's well worth the purchase price, btw.) |
| 23:21 | <@gnolam> | Joe's book? |
| 23:22 | <@jerith> | Joe Armstrong. He wrote Erlang. |
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| 23:22 | <@jerith> | !stfw programming erlang |
| 23:22 | <+Schlock> | Lucky google site for programming erlang is http://www.pragprog.com/titles/jaerlang/ |
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| 23:29 | <@Vornicus> | Okay. object object integer integer boolean function function boolean. |
| 23:34 | | * jerith hands Vornicus a happy little void* |
| 23:34 | <@Vornicus> | Fortunately, all i have to look up is the code letters, the rest is easy. |
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