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| 00:22 | <@gnolam> | Vornicus: eww. |
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| 05:44 | < Shoukanjuu> | Anyone here know anything about Yellow Dog Linux? :/ |
| 05:46 | <@Doctor_Nick> | no |
| 05:46 | <@Doctor_Nick> | other than its based off of red hat |
| 05:47 | < Shoukanjuu> | Hm. |
| 05:52 | <@Vornicus> | Yellow Dog iirc was originally a binary-based distro for PowerPC |
| 05:52 | <@Vornicus> | THey created the Yellowdog Update Manager, or 'yum' |
| 05:52 | < Shoukanjuu> | yeah |
| 05:53 | < Shoukanjuu> | My brother tried to isntall it on his PS3 |
| 05:53 | < Shoukanjuu> | And I don't even know how to get it from the command prompt after login @_x |
| 05:53 | < Shoukanjuu> | Apparently, he hasn't fully booted it |
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| 14:06 | | * UndeadAnno mumbles at Oz Mozart. It's been mulling this problem over for some minute now. |
| 14:07 | <@UndeadAnno> | Apparently using lists, rather than tuples makes it reeeeeaaaaaaaally slow. |
| 14:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | $do || ! $do ; try |
| 14:08 | < Shoukanjuu> | try: command not found |
| 14:09 | | * UndeadAnno tries first-fail distribution. Seems a little faster. |
| 14:10 | <@UndeadAnno> | Fortunately, this doesn't sap my box's power much. |
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| 15:11 | <@UndeadAnno> | It's weird. When I modified the code to have fewer lists, though containing the same information - which made it less human-grokkable - it actually found an answer in less than 100 steps. |
| 15:11 | <@UndeadAnno> | As opposed to millions of them and never finding one. |
| 15:12 | < Shoukanjuu> | Less code, less room for mistake |
| 15:13 | <@UndeadAnno> | It didn't actually reduce the amount of code much. I just replace three lists with one list the size of the three. |
| 15:14 | < Shoukanjuu> | But it DId reduce the code? >_> |
| 15:14 | < Shoukanjuu> | And since there is one list, there wasn't a need to go frm list to list? >_> |
| 15:15 | < Shoukanjuu> | I don't completely understand things, but at the very least, I'm an inquisitve idiot |
| 15:15 | <@UndeadAnno> | I'm talking about constrain programming. |
| 15:15 | <@UndeadAnno> | !google Oz Mozart |
| 15:16 | <@UndeadAnno> | Hrm, DiceBot apparently doesn't do !google. |
| 15:16 | < Shoukanjuu> | I would, but I'v been up for 45 hours and neither one of my eyes will stop twitching. |
| 15:16 | <@UndeadAnno> | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oz_(programming_language) |
| 15:16 | <@UndeadAnno> | I would suggest sleep. |
| 15:18 | < Shoukanjuu> | I would suggest sleep, too. |
| 15:18 | < Shoukanjuu> | now if only the vopices in my head weren't bickering about the price is right |
| 15:18 | < Shoukanjuu> | ....That's...the TV, actually |
| 15:18 | | * UndeadAnno shoots Shoukanjuu with a tranquilizer dart. |
| 15:18 | | * Shoukanjuu mutates |
| 15:19 | <@UndeadAnno> | Please close your eyes. |
| 15:19 | <@UndeadAnno> | You don't have to go to bed, just close your eyes. |
| 15:20 | < Shoukanjuu> | I did that once |
| 15:20 | < Shoukanjuu> | Seriously, though, I have work to do...need to finish... |
| 15:51 | <@UndeadAnno> | No, you don't. |
| 15:51 | <@UndeadAnno> | You need to sleep. |
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| 18:12 | < Shoukanjuu> | i should sleep eventually yah |
| 18:13 | < Shoukanjuu> | rocks hurt my poor delicate thieving hands |
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| 18:39 | | * UndeadAnno weeps tears of bubbling pitch, at having to understand this: {FD.disj (X.I+Ap.I=<:X.J) {FD.disj (X.J+Ap.J=<:X.I) {FD.disj (Y.I+Bp.I=<:Y.J) (Y.J+Bp.J=<:Y.I)}}}=:1 |
| 18:46 | <@UndeadAnno> | It's a big ol' disjunction, but I fail to see what it actually does. |
| 18:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | What language is that? |
| 18:56 | <@UndeadAnno> | Oz. |
| 18:56 | <@UndeadAnno> | It's a magazine problem. X and Y are anchor points on the grid, Ap and Bp are sizes. |
| 18:56 | <@UndeadAnno> | I and J are indexes. |
| 19:04 | <@UndeadAnno> | I need to understand this first, to be able to do this in three dimensions. |
| 19:13 | <@UndeadAnno> | Eureka! |
| 19:13 | <@UndeadAnno> | Now I comprehend it. |
| 19:14 | <@UndeadAnno> | 3D would just add two components to this. Sort of. |
| 19:15 | <@UndeadAnno> | This thing is to ensure that each object is, in relation to every other, in one of the following positions: a) to the left, b) to the right, c) below, d) above. |
| 19:15 | <@UndeadAnno> | To prevent overlapping. |
| 19:16 | <@UndeadAnno> | Since we do know that the size always adds to the anchor point, we can do this with just four conditionals. |
| 19:17 | <@UndeadAnno> | In a 3D environment, we would have to add: e) in front, f) behind. |
| 19:17 | <@UndeadAnno> | The Z-dimension would also be added to the anchor point, so no worries there. |
| 19:38 | <@UndeadAnno> | 2.5 million distribution operations. Ick. I'll go eat supper while it explores. |
| 19:51 | <@UndeadAnno> | Damn it. It hung. |
| 20:06 | <@UndeadAnno> | What the freg. |
| 20:07 | <@UndeadAnno> | The computation time went from 200000 units to 200 when I switched the order of distributions, so that the smallest variable would be distributed first. |
| 20:39 | < Vornicus> | heh |
| 23:37 | < Vornicus> | ARG, WHY WILL THIS CODE NOT WRITE? |
| 23:37 | < Vornicus> | It's all there in my head. Why does none of it want to exit through my fingers? |
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| 23:51 | <@Doctor_Nick> | computers |
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