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00:03 | | * Chalain does the "I Can Has Job Interview" w00t. |
00:04 | <@Chalain> | ( /me did the Epic Job Fail last Friday ) |
00:05 | | * Finerty noticed. How is it that you can do that so quickly? |
00:11 | | * Reltzik grumps. Needs job. No work experience. Few skills. Erg. |
00:12 | <@AnnoDomini> | Be a teacher at Uni? |
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00:15 | <@Chalain> | Finerty: I'm not really sure. I call people, I talk tech at them, I get excited about the problems their company is trying to solve. Then they sort of do the rest. |
00:15 | | * Finerty calls people and they say "who the fuck are you?" |
00:16 | <@Chalain> | lol |
00:16 | | * Chalain would respond, "I'm fucking *Chalain*! Remember it, bitch." |
00:17 | | * Chalain actually got a job once (years ago) by walking into a hotel and telling the manager, "I'm here to get hired. Who do I talk to?" |
00:18 | <@Chalain> | I know that a lot of folks are really, really down on Ruby right now, but I'll say this for it: it's got HELLA more active user groups and conferences than any other language I've ever seen. |
00:18 | <@AnnoDomini> | "Are you dense? Are you retarded? Who do you think I am? I'm the goddamned Chalain!" |
00:18 | | * Chalain coughs politely. "THE" should be in all caps. |
00:19 | <@AnnoDomini> | You probably want some sections bolded, too. |
00:19 | <@Chalain> | Oh hell yes. |
00:19 | | * Chalain unzips and shows you where. |
00:19 | | * AnnoDomini laughs. |
00:20 | <@Chalain> | "Why's it off to one side?" "Ohh, sorry, it's in italics." |
00:21 | <@Chalain> | But yeah. Finerty: It's been interesting this go-round. There's like this *social* community I can call and talk to people through. It's not really even about getting a job. At first, anyway. We start talking about what they're working on, and what |
00:21 | <@Chalain> | I'm working on, and it just goes from there. |
00:22 | <@Chalain> | I nearly squeed my pants though when, during this phone call, the guy said, "Yeah, we've been writing some more-Ruby-than-Rails stuff, like custom SQL compositors and the like..." |
00:23 | <@Chalain> | And I got to say, "Oh really? I wrote a plugin this weekend that adds a find_by_partial class method to ActiveRecord, and it was a bear getting Ruby to take a custom function name without having to eval the entire thing as as tring...." |
00:25 | <@Chalain> | And then I talk about the human side of things rather than trying to dazzle them with tech. "So I got it to work with class_eval, but the entire function is defined from a single string, and I laid awake at night thinking 'man, that code works but it |
00:25 | <@Chalain> | sure is stinky'..." and he ended up saying, "Wow... you might be a really good fit for my team. Do you have a current resume?" |
00:25 | <@Chalain> | And boy, did I have a current resume. |
00:26 | <@Chalain> | And the rest is, as they say, hopefully about to become history. :-) I interview tomorrow at 10. |
00:27 | | * AnnoDomini gives this monologue an 8.4. |
00:27 | <@Chalain> | Hmm |
00:28 | <@Chalain> | I was hoping for better. |
00:28 | <@Chalain> | I could do the boldface penis part again, if you like. |
00:28 | <@Finerty> | |
00:28 | | * AnnoDomini found that irresistably funny, at 0130. |
00:29 | <@Chalain> | Heh |
00:29 | <@Chalain> | sleep deprivation makes EVERYTHING funnier. |
00:29 | <@AnnoDomini> | Yes. |
00:30 | <@Chalain> | The most egregious example of that for me was a movie called Young Einstein, which {hope,merci}fully most of you have never seen. |
00:30 | <@AnnoDomini> | I think I did. |
00:31 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
00:31 | <@AnnoDomini> | Was it the movie where he blew up the workshop curiously shaped like an outhouse when splitting the atom? |
00:31 | <@Chalain> | I went to see it the day before finals in college, e.g. after a week of all-day+all-night study sessions. |
00:31 | <@Chalain> | Yes. |
00:31 | <@Chalain> | Splitting a BEER atom. |
00:32 | <@AnnoDomini> | Beer has atoms. I see. |
00:32 | <@Chalain> | Yes. |
00:32 | < Reltzik> | Well, yes. Beer's comprised of atoms. Primarily hydrogen and oxygen, with some carbon and nitrogen and a few traces of other stuff. |
00:32 | <@McMartin> | Also, Einstein was an Australian in the Croc Hunter mold. |
00:32 | <@Chalain> | Oh man. I was with a group of sleep-deprived friends, and we all laughed nigh unto vomiting. |
00:34 | <@Chalain> | I told people for like five YEARS later that YE was the funniest movie in all of human creation. Better than Cheech & Chong, better than Three Stooges, better than--I am ashamed to admit this--Monty Python. |
00:34 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
00:34 | <@Chalain> | Finally I rented it so I could show it to all my friends who hadn't seen it and just could not comprehend it's majesty. |
00:34 | <@Chalain> | I have been a broken shell of a man ever since. |
00:34 | <@AnnoDomini> | Last movie I saw when drunk was Euro Trip. Maaaaan. :D |
00:35 | | * Chalain hasn't seen it. |
00:35 | | * Chalain supposes this is a good thing? |
00:35 | <@AnnoDomini> | Probably. Do you like stuff like American Pie? |
00:36 | <@Chalain> | So, this is where this conversation may take a turn for the weirder, but... I haven't seen American Pie. |
00:36 | <@AnnoDomini> | No, wait... Euro Trip was earlier. Last movie I saw drunk was, wossname... Vampire Hunter D. |
00:36 | | * Chalain watches maybe 2 movies a year. |
00:36 | | * AnnoDomini likewise. |
00:36 | <@Chalain> | Last year was Ratatouille and... um... another movie, probably. |
00:37 | | * Chalain also generally avoids Rated R movies on The Principle of the Thing. |
00:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | I watched Beowulf and 300 last year. Not counting rewatchings of movies, or there'd be a few more. |
00:37 | <@Chalain> | Mm. |
00:37 | | * Chalain ponders. |
00:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | But that mostly includes Conan the Barbarian and The Gamers. |
00:37 | <@Chalain> | Actually, if you count rentals, I probably watch a movie a month. Last week I finally saw Transformers, for exampel. |
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00:39 | <@AnnoDomini> | Exam session is at an end, so I'm likely to see something new while drunk, at the subsequent party at a friend's. |
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00:40 | <@AnnoDomini> | I hope I don't break anything of his this time. I have destructive, if unintentional, tendencies. |
00:41 | <@Chalain> | Heh |
00:41 | <@AnnoDomini> | When I came over to study, I kinda broke a plastic chair. By SITTING ON IT. |
00:41 | <@gnolam> | Ah. You're one of /them/. |
00:41 | <@Chalain> | "...from off the balcony." |
00:41 | <@gnolam> | I have a friend we call "The Destroyer". |
00:41 | <@AnnoDomini> | Another time, I somehow lost the guy a piece of his miniature crossbow. |
00:42 | <@Chalain> | "How was I supposed to know it would fit down the disposal?" |
00:42 | <@gnolam> | He's broken sofas, chairs, lamps, an electronic passcode system... well, everything that can be broken, he has broken. |
00:42 | <@AnnoDomini> | I'm afraid of touching his fancy electronic equipment. |
00:42 | <@AnnoDomini> | gnolam: Heh. |
00:43 | <@gnolam> | Oh, you can touch /my/ fancy electronic equipment anytime... |
00:43 | <@gnolam> | Hmm. |
00:43 | | * gnolam discovers a MATLAB<->SciLab incompatibility. |
00:44 | <@AnnoDomini> | More domestically, no office-model chair can withstand usage by me. |
00:44 | <@gnolam> | ... and works around it. That didn't take long. |
00:44 | | * AnnoDomini doesn't like SciLab much, as the bloody thing crashes too damn much. |
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00:45 | <@AnnoDomini> | Right now I'm using one of those cool old-school big wooden chairs. It has so far lasted half a year and is going strong, if it has developed creakiness. |
00:46 | <@gnolam> | Although... I know two wrongs don't make a right, but still... anything that breaks M-code must be a good thing, right? :P |
00:46 | <@gnolam> | AnnoDomini: what you need is a throne of skulls. |
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00:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | What I need is to find a free copy of Alan Dean Foster's Spoils of War. |
00:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | The damned book, pun not intended, doesn't seem to have been ever digitized. |
01:10 | | * AnnoDomini gets sucked into the TVTropes vortex. |
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01:11 | <@McMartin> | lolpwnt |
01:13 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: Foster, Alan Dean - The Damned, book 3 - Spoils of War? |
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01:19 | <@AnnoDomini> | ToxicFrog: Yes. |
01:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | => #bookz @ undernet |
01:19 | | * AnnoDomini hates WinXP and its inexplicable crashes with all his little black heart. |
01:19 | <@AnnoDomini> | Ooh, thanks. I'll check that out. |
01:22 | <@ToxicFrog> | Vadi has a copy, use of the searchbot will probably yield more. |
01:22 | | * AnnoDomini is overwhelmed with the traffic there. |
01:23 | <@AnnoDomini> | So far, it doesn't appear that it's there. |
01:23 | <@AnnoDomini> | Those are only the cover pictures. |
01:24 | <@ToxicFrog> | ...oh, that's part of the problem: the searchbot is down |
01:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | So you'll only get returns from individual bots, which can be highly unreliable. |
01:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh, damn, you're right |
01:25 | <@ToxicFrog> | I saw .rar and assumed it was the book, but it's only the covers. |
01:28 | <@AnnoDomini> | How do you use that place, anyway? |
01:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Two ways. |
01:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | When the searchbot is up, you @search or @seek for books (IIRC; it's been a while) |
01:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | It will reply by offering to DCC you a list of results (which covers all bots, not just the ones currently online) |
01:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | When it's not, you @find, and any bots which match will PM you the matches, or an abbreviated list thereof + instructions for getting the full list. |
01:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | In both cases, the results of the search will actually be a command, not just the book name; you paste that into the channel and if the corresponding bot is up it'll DCC you the file, possibly after a queue delay. |
01:31 | <@AnnoDomini> | Ooh. This is convenient. |
01:31 | <@AnnoDomini> | Much faster than getting stuff from p2p networks. |
01:31 | <@ToxicFrog> | Indeed. |
01:31 | <@ToxicFrog> | It's more convenient when the searchbot is up, tho. |
01:34 | <@AnnoDomini> | What's the searchbot's nick, then? |
01:39 | <@ToxicFrog> | searchbot. |
01:39 | <@AnnoDomini> | Straightforward. |
01:40 | | * AnnoDomini goes to sleep. |
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23:31 | < Doctor_Nick> | is there a command that lets you run a process with init as the parent? |
23:31 | <@McMartin> | I think you can devolve them to init, because screen does this |
23:32 | < Doctor_Nick> | how's that? |
23:33 | <@McMartin> | "There exist user-level programs that set *themselves* so that init owns them, so it must be possible" |
23:33 | < Doctor_Nick> | hmm |
23:34 | <@McMartin> | I don't know if you can force other processes to do it, though, come to think of it |
23:34 | <@McMartin> | Though, fork, devolve to init, exec should do it. |
23:34 | <@McMartin> | If all you want to do is have it survive beyond your hangup and pick it up again later, run it in screen. |
23:34 | < Doctor_Nick> | yeah |
23:35 | < Doctor_Nick> | gnu.org/software/screen/ <- this thing? |
23:36 | <@McMartin> | Probably, not checking the link my terminal doesn't recognize. |
23:36 | <@McMartin> | It should be in your package manage if it's not already installed. |
23:36 | < Doctor_Nick> | its installed |
23:37 | <@McMartin> | So, start screen, start running your process, then detach the screen with ctrl-a ctrl-d |
23:37 | <@McMartin> | You can then reattach it later, even from another system sshed in, with the command "screen -dR" |
23:37 | <@McMartin> | Er |
23:37 | <@McMartin> | -dr |
23:38 | < Doctor_Nick> | neat |
23:38 | < Doctor_Nick> | it works |
23:38 | < Doctor_Nick> | thanks |
23:38 | | * McMartin uses irssi in a screen as his IRC client, so he can stay logged in when going to and from a coffeeshop, for instance. |
23:38 | <@McMartin> | Detach before I leave, reattach once I connect on the other side. |
23:45 | <@TheWatcher> | screen is made of shiny, seriously |
23:46 | < Doctor_Nick> | like earthworm jim? |
23:47 | <@McMartin> | That's made *by* Shiny |
23:48 | <@TheWatcher> | DN: and you can have multiple windows: Ctrl-A Ctrl-C to make a new window, Ctrl-A Ctrl-N or Ctrl-A Ctrl-P to move forward and back, Ctral-A Ctrl-<digit> to jump to that window.. |
23:49 | < Doctor_Nick> | and it does logging |
23:49 | < Doctor_Nick> | it looks pretty nifty |
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