code logs -> 2008 -> Tue, 29 Jan 2008< code.20080128.log - code.20080130.log >
--- Log opened Tue Jan 29 00:00:15 2008
00:13 Vornicus is now known as Finerty
00:25
< Finerty>
Hm. Further bugs; tell disambiguation does not check to see whether I would know about something.
00:31
< Finerty>
So, for instance, asking about hte paper (in the crack) asks if I want to ask about the piece of paper, or the marks on the paper, or the drawing.
00:34
< Finerty>
I have not yet seen the marks or the drawing though
00:34
< Finerty>
...aahaahaa. If you're the only person in the room: Grunk tell lots of thing to Grunk, but it turn out that Grunk know it all before.
00:46
< Doctor_Nick>
ohhhhhhhhhh snaaaaaaap
00:47
< Finerty>
Actually this delay is getting worse and worse.
00:47
<@gnolam>
It's a speed-up loop!
01:01 Finerty is now known as Vornicus
01:04 gnolam [lenin@Nightstar-10613.8.5.253.static.se.wasadata.net] has quit [Quit: Bleh.]
01:25 * Vornicus fiddles, isn't sure what he can do any more.
01:26
<@McMartin>
To?
01:26
< Vornicus>
in Lost Pig.
01:26
< Vornicus>
...oh, there's a ...
01:26
< Vornicus>
heh. a smiley face.
01:30
<@McMartin>
There's also an in-game hint system.
01:30
< Vornicus>
I see that. I just asked it.
01:30 * Vornicus gets a coin.
01:32
< Vornicus>
Briiiiick
01:34
< Vornicus>
...halfbriiiiiick
01:38 * ToxicFrog determines that adding widescreen support to Ground Control is entirely too much work.
01:57
< Vornicus>
Grunk remember what happen next! <--- Hey, he /can/ learn stuff!
01:58
<@McMartin>
BRIIIIIIICK
01:59 * Vornicus now needs to figure out how to get out.
02:06
<@McMartin>
Save right now
02:06
<@McMartin>
You'll see why in a bit
02:07 * Vornicus fiddles. Wanders around some.
02:08
< Vornicus>
okay. can't do anything with the stream; it's inexhaustible, and I can't get all that powder there anyway.
02:08
< Vornicus>
And I can't jump in, either.
02:09
< Vornicus>
...okay, that... probably wasn't the best of ideas. I wonder if it ever goes out.
02:11
<@McMartin>
That's why you saved~
02:11
< Vornicus>
Heh.
02:11
<@McMartin>
(Set the walls on fire, did we?)
02:12
< Vornicus>
((yes))
02:15
< Vornicus>
(right, I'll poke at it later))
02:15 * Vornicus goes downstairs to do Important Things.
02:43
< Vornicus>
okay, 6 out of 7.
02:43
<@McMartin>
Yeah. The hint menu has changed
02:43
<@McMartin>
This is why I suggested the save at the point I did
02:44 * Vornicus now needs to figure out number 7.
02:46
<@McMartin>
This is the Last Lousy Point
02:46
<@McMartin>
And as such is totally unclued.
02:46
< Vornicus>
I figured.
02:46
<@McMartin>
Except in the hint menu, which tells you how to get it.
02:47
< Vornicus>
hm
02:48
<@McMartin>
Not setting the walls on fire is a good start~
02:48
< Vornicus>
Yeah, I didn't.
02:48
< Vornicus>
In the end
02:54
< Vornicus>
needs an 8th point.
02:54
< Vornicus>
Dunno what it'd be, but it needs it.
02:54
< Vornicus>
Just so it can go "lots"
03:07
<@McMartin>
Heh
03:08
<@McMartin>
Also
03:08 * McMartin reduces the running time for one of his analyses from ~75 minutes to ~8 seconds
03:08
<@McMartin>
TODAY'S LESSON
03:08
< Vornicus>
linear time beats quadratic?
03:08
<@McMartin>
If you must iterate through an insanely large worklist, that must be kept in a partial order
03:08
<@McMartin>
Have it be a list of sets.
03:08
<@McMartin>
Do not, under any circumstances, impose a total order over the partial one.
03:08
< Vornicus>
Heh
03:09
<@McMartin>
Because Jesus Christ.
03:09
<@McMartin>
Actually, Jesus reminds me that I lie.
03:09
<@McMartin>
The total order, if easier to code and prove correct, you use on small test cases to show that the more complex list-of-sets code works.
03:09
<@McMartin>
Then you unleash it on your large dataset.
03:11
< Vornicus>
heh
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04:19
< Vornicus>
Why /do/ sorted lists look shorter than unsorted ones?
04:38
<@McMartin>
I must admit, I have not noticed this.
04:39
< Vornicus>
I just rearranged my channel list, because I wanted to make sure I wasn't carrying around extra PM windows.
04:39
< Vornicus>
I wasn't, but after sorting, it looks like I have about twice as much blank space as I did before.
05:04 Vornicus is now known as Vornicus-Latens
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08:59
<@McMartin>
http://www.allthingsjacq.com/images/corn_identity_poster.jpg
09:02 * AnnoDomini finds djvu nifty.
09:02
<@gnolam>
McMartin: boo.
09:05
<@McMartin>
?
09:06
<@gnolam>
Bad pun. Bad pun. No biscuit!
09:07
<@McMartin>
The game is, if anything, even more surreal.
09:07
<@McMartin>
http://www.allthingsjacq.com/intfic_cornidentity.html
09:07
<@McMartin>
"Mere words cannot contain a game made entirely of text!"
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--- Log opened Tue Jan 29 18:10:22 2008
18:10 TheWatcher[afk] [~chris@Nightstar-29731.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has joined #code
18:10 Irssi: #code: Total of 18 nicks [11 ops, 0 halfops, 1 voices, 6 normal]
18:10 Irssi: Join to #code was synced in 35 secs
19:05 You're now known as TheWatcher
19:09
< EvilDarkLord>
Wait, I'm being stupid. Never mind!
19:18
<@ToxicFrog>
?
19:19
< EvilDarkLord>
I had declared leapyears as an integer as well.
19:31
<@ToxicFrog>
I'm begging you. Establish context before you start talking.
19:41
< EvilDarkLord>
Uh? I had made a stupid mistake in the code above. Leapyears as both a function and an integer.
19:43
<@ToxicFrog>
...how far above?
19:44
<@ToxicFrog>
That is to say, how many days ago was this?
19:44
< EvilDarkLord>
Er. The pastebin link I posted just now.
19:44
<@ToxicFrog>
You pasted no such thing.
19:44
<@ToxicFrog>
And indeed if you look you will probably see "cannot send URLs to channel (you need voice)"
19:45 mode/#code [+v EvilDarkLord] by ToxicFrog
19:45
<+EvilDarkLord>
Hnh. Irssi didn't tell me this, it looks like it went through from here.
19:46
<+EvilDarkLord>
http://rafb.net/p/2vTgZF26.html is the link I thought I posted.
19:47
<+EvilDarkLord>
...wait. It did tell me, but as usual, not in the most attention-grabbing way.
19:47
<+EvilDarkLord>
Sorry about that.
19:51
<@ToxicFrog>
irssi fails at a lot of things, so.
20:02
<+EvilDarkLord>
Can you recommend a better text client?
20:03
<@ToxicFrog>
No, sadly.
20:03
<@ToxicFrog>
The others are all worse.
21:37
<@McMartin>
And I'm not convinced that this isn't a feature of irssi
21:37
<@McMartin>
Since it means the endless yammering about the goddamned alien white courtesy phone does not interrupt whatever conversation you were having.
21:38
< TheWatcher>
snrk
21:44
<@ToxicFrog>
You know, we tried using wallops for it once, which people can easily turn off by setting themselves umode -w.
21:44
<@ToxicFrog>
And got five times as many complaints next time it was used.
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23:03
<@MyCatVerbs>
EvilDarkLord: look into netcat. :)
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23:22
< MyNetCatVerbs>
Huh. Just realised, using GNU readline here prevents me from sending ^A's. Damn.
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23:26 * MyNetCatVerbs gingerly tests the bedsprings.
23:27
<@MyCatVerbs>
Yesss, that's more like it. ^_^
23:27 mode/#code [+vvv Attilla C_tiger MyNetCatVerbs] by MyCatVerbs
23:27 mode/#code [+vv Pi Serah] by MyCatVerbs
23:31
<@MyCatVerbs>
Now just to see if that one over there survives for more than ten minutes or so.
23:38
<+MyNetCatVerbs>
Goddammit, SSH connections always seem to take *forever* to establish from this machine.
23:38
<+MyNetCatVerbs>
Certainly it can't be mere network latency. x_x
23:53
<+MyNetCatVerbs>
Hrmn. Wonder why Ubuntu turns GSS-API on for SSH by default?
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--- Log closed Wed Jan 30 00:00:21 2008
code logs -> 2008 -> Tue, 29 Jan 2008< code.20080128.log - code.20080130.log >