| --- Log opened Mon Jan 28 00:00:09 2008 |
| 00:00 | < Finerty> | Yeah, it seems to dislike that. |
| 00:01 | < Finerty> | Well, the update failed when it was in /Applications/Games |
| 00:01 | < Finerty> | but beyond that it seems to be okay. |
| 00:17 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 00:18 | <@McMartin> | "The frog walks up to the bar and orders a Tom Collins." |
| 00:18 | <@McMartin> | (some turns later) |
| 00:18 | <@McMartin> | "Tom Collins walks up to the bar and orders a frog." |
| 00:22 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 00:22 | < Finerty> | whut |
| 00:25 | <@McMartin> | Undo. 1995. Neil deMause. |
| 00:25 | <@McMartin> | "Game that pretends to be buggy lol". |
| 00:26 | <@McMartin> | Though it occurs to me that there's a game on my wishlist that actually does this and is fairly serious about it. |
| 00:30 | <@ToxicFrog> | ? |
| 00:40 | <@McMartin> | It's a murder mystery with an NPC entreating the player to uncover the circumstances of the murder of the game's author, which happened while the game was being written. |
| 00:40 | < Finerty> | O.o |
| 00:40 | <@McMartin> | That's how it opens. |
| 00:40 | < Finerty> | o...kaythen. |
| 00:43 | <@McMartin> | Found it. |
| 00:43 | <@McMartin> | "A New Day". |
| 00:43 | <@McMartin> | Opens with |
| 00:43 | <@McMartin> | generic room |
| 00:43 | <@McMartin> | blah blah blah fill in this room desc sometime |
| 00:43 | <@McMartin> | > X ME |
| 00:44 | <@McMartin> | Your lack of definition may be related to the lack of game around you. |
| 00:50 | <@McMartin> | http://wurb.com/if/game/153 |
| 01:18 | | Derakon [~Derakon@Nightstar-8000.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #code |
| 01:18 | | mode/#code [+o Derakon] by ChanServ |
| 01:18 | | * Derakon mutters at Firefox for misbehaving. |
| 01:44 | <@McMartin> | Rargh, what the leeg |
| 01:44 | <@McMartin> | I'm sure I had some Python code around here for doing power sets. |
| 01:44 | < Finerty> | power sets? |
| 01:45 | <@Derakon> | Weightlifting. >.> |
| 01:45 | <@McMartin> | Takes a list, returns a list of all subsets. |
| 01:46 | < Finerty> | Oh, the power set of a set. |
| 01:46 | <@McMartin> | In fact, I distinctly recall us hashing out a short and elegant routine to do it here in channel. |
| 01:47 | < Finerty> | istr making an /iterator/ that does it. |
| 01:47 | < Finerty> | I know I did the "all n-tuples" one |
| 01:49 | <@McMartin> | I'm not finding it in my #code logs though. |
| 01:49 | <@ToxicFrog> | Nor I. |
| 01:49 | <@Derakon> | Anyone know if Javascript does currying? |
| 01:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | No clue. |
| 01:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | Which reminds me. |
| 01:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | I was working on a general currying solution in Lua. I should finish that. |
| 01:50 | <@Derakon> | Hrm...doesn't look like it supports it inherently. :\ |
| 02:19 | <@Derakon> | Go go gadget Javascripty photo album. |
| 02:19 | <@Derakon> | Linkbox updates automatically...though I suppose I should add another one that's just the plain URL for the photo page, instead of including the HTML to show a thumbnail. |
| 02:20 | < Finerty> | Well, the power set of a set is exponentially large; just 32 iterms in the original is enough to hit 4 gigaentities. |
| 02:20 | < Finerty> | averaging 16 items each. |
| 02:22 | | * Reiver has a small query: He plugged a wireless access point into his network. Would now like to find what the hell the IP it grabbed is, for he cannot find it? |
| 02:31 | <@Derakon> | So when does Sable start persisting its high scores, McM? ;) |
| 02:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | Reiver: ask the DHCP server what IP it assigned most recently. |
| 02:37 | | * Reiver has no DHCP. Has determined the bastard thing is on 192.168.1.11 by default, though. Which is a slight problem because he's on a 192.168.0.* network. |
| 02:37 | | * Reiver is thus a bit stuck as to how to get communication to it. |
| 02:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | You're 192.168.1.255/24? |
| 02:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | Normally it's 192.168.255.255/16 |
| 02:43 | <@ToxicFrog> | You should just be able to talk to it normalluy |
| 02:47 | <@Reiver> | ...okay in that case, is there a search function (Possibly in linux) that lets you ping a series of IPs?~ |
| 02:51 | <@Derakon> | You can do ping -c 1 <ip address> to ping the target once, and then iterate that. |
| 02:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | You can also do ping -b 192.168.255.255 to ping everything on that network. |
| 02:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | But not everything will answer broadcast pings. |
| 03:06 | <@Reiver> | I assume this takes a while?~ |
| 03:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | Broadcast pings? |
| 03:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | No, if working, you'll get the reply immediately. |
| 03:09 | <@McMartin> | Derakon: Sable hasn't been under active development for nearly five years. |
| 03:09 | <@Reiver> | Huh. Getting no reply at all. |
| 03:10 | <@Reiver> | McM: You've revamped the image system, though. |
| 03:10 | <@ToxicFrog> | Then either you can't ping that subnet after all; it doesn't reply to broadcast pings; it's not in 192.168.*.*; or it's just not working. |
| 03:10 | <@Reiver> | Er. Graphics. |
| 03:10 | <@McMartin> | Not really. That was more "pulling the graphics engine out and making it standalone, then converting lightwave objects to eat it" |
| 03:10 | <@Reiver> | TF: I pinged -b 192.168.255.255, and /nothing/ replied. |
| 03:11 | <@McMartin> | ... not to mention that that was like three or four years ago, too. |
| 03:11 | <@Reiver> | This being via my linux boxen, which I am fairly certain has a functional ethernet port. >.> |
| 03:11 | <@Reiver> | ...No more than three, I'm fairly certain. |
| 03:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | Reiver: and? |
| 03:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | Like I said, not everything will reply. |
| 03:12 | <@Reiver> | TF: How about nothing at all? |
| 03:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | I can do it and get nothing except from the router. |
| 03:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | It's not a reliable technique. |
| 03:12 | <@Reiver> | Oh. Hrm. Okay den. |
| 03:13 | <@Reiver> | So, iterating from a linux shell prompt (Or windows cmd window, but I suspect that's just pain~) |
| 03:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | for ((i=0; i < 255; ++i)); do for ((j=0; j < 255; ++j)); do ping -c 1 192.168.$i.$j; done; done |
| 03:21 | <@McMartin> | Yay netscanning! |
| 03:22 | | * Derakon eyes Safari. "According to w3c, the 'language' attribute of script tags is deprecated. And yet you require it to recognize my scripts." |
| 03:28 | <@Reiver> | ...okay so it's not showing up at all. Interesting. |
| 03:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | http://www.elizium.nu/scripts/lemmings/ |
| 03:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | WHAAAA |
| 03:37 | <@Derakon> | Holycrap. |
| 03:38 | | Finerty is now known as Vornicus |
| 03:38 | < Vornicus> | This wouldn't happen to be jslemmings, would it? |
| 03:38 | | * Vornicus pokes it as it is not loading. |
| 03:39 | < Vornicus> | It is! |
| 04:15 | <@McMartin> | Oh no! |
| 04:15 | <@McMartin> | *kersplode* |
| 04:40 | | Vornicus is now known as Vornicus-Latens |
| 06:58 | | Derakon is now known as Derakon[AFK] |
| 07:16 | | gnolam [lenin@Nightstar-10613.8.5.253.static.se.wasadata.net] has joined #Code |
| 07:16 | | mode/#code [+o gnolam] by ChanServ |
| 08:10 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 10:30 | | Thaqui [~Thaqui@Nightstar-14364.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has left #code [Leaving] |
| 13:44 | | Vornicus-Latens is now known as Vornicus |
| 15:58 | | * ToxicFrog gets mail from van Eerten. |
| 15:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | "I have a working prototype now, and hopefully will have a beta by later today. This isn't making the code any prettier, but since a complete restructuring is on the table for 3.x..." |
| 16:10 | | Pi [~sysop@ServicesAdmin.Nightstar.Net] has quit [Ping Timeout] |
| 16:22 | | * TheWatcher hrms, wonders what the html character code for +/- is |
| 16:26 | < Vornicus> | ? <--that? ± |
| 16:26 | <@TheWatcher> | Aye, thanks |
| 16:38 | <@ToxicFrog> | What's the unicode for that? |
| 16:40 | <@TheWatcher> | http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/00b1/index.htm |
| 16:40 | <@ToxicFrog> | Could have just said 0xB1~ |
| 16:40 | <@TheWatcher> | :P |
| 17:04 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[afk] |
| 17:24 | | * MyCatVerbs blinks. |
| 17:24 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Compose key lacks most useful mathematical symbols. |
| 17:25 | <@MyCatVerbs> | One would *presume* that "<compose> = >" or "<compose> > =" would do something sane, but no. |
| 17:42 | | Doctor_Nick [~nick@Nightstar-23600.hsd1.fl.comcast.net] has joined #code |
| 17:49 | | AnnoDomini is now known as Steven |
| 17:51 | | Steven is now known as NotSteven |
| 17:59 | | NotSteven is now known as Steven |
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| 18:09 | | Pi-2 is now known as Pi |
| 18:09 | | Pi is now known as NSGuest-4721 |
| 18:09 | | NSGuest-4721 is now known as Pi-1 |
| 18:14 | | Pi-1 is now known as Pi |
| 19:31 | | You're now known as TheWatcher |
| 19:49 | < Vornicus> | Gnome say, "I've been down here alone for at least--" Gnome look at Grunk and laugh. "Well, let's just say it's probably it's probably longer than you can count." |
| 19:49 | < Vornicus> | Wow. Gnome here for more than seven! |
| 19:50 | < Vornicus> | I really like this game's conversation hint system. |
| 19:50 | < Vornicus> | ...it seems to get slower and slower as you progress through the options though |
| 19:54 | <@McMartin> | Heh |
| 19:55 | <@McMartin> | Linear search, no doubt. |
| 19:55 | <@McMartin> | The conversation hints with the pig are hilarious. |
| 19:55 | <@McMartin> | (Also note the maximum score) |
| 19:55 | <@gnolam> | http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Coding-Like-the-Tour-de-France.aspx |
| 19:58 | < Vornicus> | Yeah, I noticed those. |
| 19:59 | <@McMartin> | ASK PIG ABOUT MEANING OF LIFE |
| 19:59 | <@McMartin> | OINK AT PIG |
| 20:03 | < Doctor_Nick> | try to eat everything |
| 20:04 | < Vornicus> | ...ooops |
| 20:04 | | * Vornicus found a bug! |
| 20:04 | <@McMartin> | Doctor_Nick: Lost Pig generally lets you try |
| 20:04 | <@McMartin> | And lets you succeed more often than is perhaps pleasant. |
| 20:05 | < Vornicus> | >t walls |
| 20:05 | < Vornicus> | What that mean, TELL |
| 20:05 | < Vornicus> | [** Programming error: tried to test "has" or "hasnt" of not anything **] |
| 20:05 | < Vornicus> | GNOME ABOUT PICTURE NEAR STATUE or TELL |
| 20:05 | < Vornicus> | [** Programming error: tried to test "has" or "hasnt" of not anything **] |
| 20:05 | < Vornicus> | GNOME ABOUT GLOWING WALL? |
| 20:05 | <@TheWatcher> | ... |
| 20:05 | <@McMartin> | AHAHHAHAHAA |
| 20:05 | | * gnolam wonders what Vorn and McMartin are actually talking about. |
| 20:05 | <@McMartin> | He hacked the parser to replace (string) NULL with "not anything" |
| 20:05 | <@McMartin> | Grunk pervades the library, truly |
| 20:05 | < Vornicus> | gnolam: the IF "Lost Pig" |
| 20:06 | <@McMartin> | gnolam: Winner of last year's IFComp, "Lost Pig". |
| 20:06 | <@gnolam> | Ah. |
| 20:07 | | * McMartin heads off to lunch |
| 21:17 | | Steven is now known as AnnoDomini |
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| 22:09 | <@McMartin> | Man, rough audience here. |
| 22:10 | <@McMartin> | Guy's talking about priority inversion in hardware schedulers, and the's being heckled by people who are claiming that anything that isn't real-time has no unacceptable schedule |
| 22:33 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[T-2] |
| 22:36 | | You're now known as TheWatcher[zZzZ] |
| 22:48 | <@AnnoDomini> | Damn it. Does anybody know what the saturation and active work modes mean in bipolar transistors? I'm getting conflicting information. Which is the rising curve, and which is the horizontal line? |
| 22:49 | <@McMartin> | I vaguely recall saturation being the horizontal line, but that's also roughly what you want when you're doing logic. |
| 22:52 | <@AnnoDomini> | That I know to be a fact in field effect transistors. I don't know whether the teacher fed us a lie that active is the horizontal and saturation in the rising curve, in bipolar transistors. |
| 22:52 | <@AnnoDomini> | It seems to contradict what I've been taught previously. |
| 22:56 | <@McMartin> | Erm |
| 22:56 | <@McMartin> | Well |
| 22:57 | <@McMartin> | I tend to think of BJTs being for op-amps |
| 22:57 | <@McMartin> | Which I studied for 90 minutes ten years ago. |
| 22:57 | <@McMartin> | So, uh, best to ask someone else~ |
| 22:57 | <@McMartin> | But in an op-amp the part you use is the slope-up. |
| 23:48 | <@gnolam> | Gnghgnghgh. |
| 23:49 | | * McMartin eyes |
| 23:49 | <@McMartin> | "Can you believe how little pudding people eat? |
| 23:49 | <@McMartin> | It's hard to understand, isn't it? Pudding is so great! I don't know about you, but I eat pudding at every meal. It's healthy and delicious. Everyone I respect and admire eats pudding in copious quantities. |
| 23:49 | <@McMartin> | Clearly, people who do not eat pudding are a little weird. |
| 23:49 | <@McMartin> | Eat pudding. You'll be glad you did." |
| 23:49 | <@gnolam> | I have come to the conclusion that PHP stands for "Precipitates Heart Problems". :P |
| 23:51 | <@McMartin> | %FACTORY% announces:;() "^^^you are instructed to purchase %PRODUCT% compli&&&ance is expected all units of %PRODUCT%@@memrf() must be purchased and consumed by reader.111111111111111111" |
| --- Log closed Tue Jan 29 00:00:15 2008 |