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| 12:09 | | * Vornicus discovers that Google Sketchup has a Ruby console. Is glad for its existence, but wonders why Ruby specifically. |
| 12:19 | <@jerith> | Must be bootleg. Googlians aren't allowewd to use Ruby. |
| 12:19 | < Vornicus> | heh |
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| 17:28 | | * AnnoDomini got a 4/5 (maximum grade for my chosen project) for his timer JavaBean. :D |
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| 17:30 | <@AnnoDomini> | I was the only one in my group who managed to squeeze it in the timeframe, too. |
| 17:34 | < Vornicus> | awesome |
| 17:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | The questioning included only "show me your getters/setters" and "show me your report (a one page document, containing a screenshot, answer to the question 'Why is my project a JavaBean?' and a basic algorithm of the project)". He didn't even look at my code properly... Seemed to be taken slightly aback when I told him, "I wrote it all in Notepad." |
| 17:37 | <@AnnoDomini> | :p |
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| 17:52 | <@ToxicFrog> | At least you didn't set off a "I didn't know you could do that" and frantic references to the manual. |
| 17:53 | <@AnnoDomini> | Heh. |
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| 18:37 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Notepad? |
| 18:38 | <@MyCatVerbs> | I'd rather use edit.com, since notepad didn't (until recently) even respond to ^S. |
| 18:38 | <@AnnoDomini> | The later versions do. |
| 18:38 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Besides, edit.com handles line endings better. |
| 18:52 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Though I presume that must've changed in later versions too. |
| 18:53 | <@AnnoDomini> | Notepad in the unpatched WinXP tended to completely mess up line breaks. |
| 18:57 | | * MyCatVerbs takes that as a sign that he shouldn't have assumed, then. :) |
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| 19:08 | <@C_tiger> | There's always notepad ++ |
| 19:10 | | * AnnoDomini has recently laughed with a friend over a mutual thought habit of trying to execute Ctrl+something when writing on paper, in meatspace. |
| 19:11 | <@MyCatVerbs> | C_tiger: by the time you're installing additional software anyway, you might as well get vim. :) |
| 19:11 | <@C_tiger> | true. |
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| 19:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: and in patched XP - you need wordpad if you want it to handle anything other than CRLF. |
| 19:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | And neither of them remember indent levels. |
| 19:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | Thus, IMO, making them totally unsuitable for any kind of coding. |
| 19:34 | <@AnnoDomini> | The CRLF thing is a chore, yes. |
| 19:36 | <@MyCatVerbs> | EDIT.COM (at least the version bundled with win98) always handled Unix line endings quite happily for me. >_> |
| 19:41 | | * gnolam , having done a whole lot of Telnet work, grumbles about how CRLF is really the more logical choice. |
| 19:43 | <@AnnoDomini> | But really - failing to support any other means of linebreaks? Win98 notepad could do that, for chrissakes. |
| 19:47 | <@AnnoDomini> | "Back in my day, we didn't have ones and zeroes like you youngsters do. I wrote an entire program using only zeroes." "You had zeroes? We had to use the letter 'o'." |
| 19:49 | <@MyCatVerbs> | gnolam: but where where would I conceivably want to have one but not the other in isolation in a text document? |
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| 19:50 | <@C_tiger> | AD, we had to use a hand cranked generator and some wire... |
| 19:51 | <@MyCatVerbs> | For your ncurses implementation, I could see it, but for storing documents, that'd be no less crazy than including the ^H and ^W's. |
| 19:51 | <@AnnoDomini> | Wire? We only had hemp rope. |
| 19:51 | <@AnnoDomini> | :P |
| 19:52 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Hemp rope? Oh we had that, but we could never make it last with all the hippies prowling around. |
| 19:53 | | * AnnoDomini chuckles. |
| 19:54 | <@AnnoDomini> | A "bug" would be a "hippie smoking the circuits"? ;p |
| 19:55 | <@C_tiger> | It's hard to say... it could also be the programmer smoking the circuits. |
| 19:55 | <@MyCatVerbs> | No, it would be the trashed-up Volkswagen the hippies have tacked an awning onto and are using as their base camp. |
| 19:56 | <@C_tiger> | Pfffffffffffft. |
| 20:00 | <@MyCatVerbs> | C_tiger: what? |
| 20:00 | <@MyCatVerbs> | C_tiger: if you mention the phrase, "uphill both ways..." |
| 20:04 | < Attilla> | Parabola! |
| 20:15 | <@gnolam> | MyCatVerbs: wherever you want to print composite characters on a teleprinter, of course. :) |
| 20:25 | <@MyCatVerbs> | gnolam: eeeuuuuuch a fi! But good point, I guess. |
| 20:41 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Oh, ick. Is there any sane way in java to break out of a try/catch block immediately other than throwing an exception (which would suck), please? |
| 20:42 | | * MyCatVerbs vaguely remembers something about java having a facility to break out of any arbitrary block or something like that, but I'm not entire certain. |
| 20:42 | <@jerith> | MCV: Why would you want to? |
| 20:42 | <@jerith> | I think there's something like goto, but I'm not sure. |
| 20:43 | <@MyCatVerbs> | jerith: In this case, because there's code just after the try/catch pair which I want to run through. |
| 20:43 | <@MyCatVerbs> | Fuckit, it's one line, I'll duplicate it. >_> |
| 20:43 | <@jerith> | I;ve never used it, but I've seen warnings about unused labels in generated code. |
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