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| 02:47 | <@Vornicus> | Gnarg. So anyway, I need to rejigger my schema to have simple primary keys. |
| 02:48 | <@ReivZzz> | ok. |
| 02:50 | <@Vornicus> | (because composites don't really work with any existing ORMs) |
| 02:51 | <@Vornicus> | (which /fucking blows/) |
| 02:51 | | * ToxicFrog patpats |
| 02:52 | | * Pi points and laughs at Vornicus |
| 02:53 | <@Vornicus> | :( |
| 02:59 | | * Vornicus wants Visio. |
| 03:02 | <@Vornicus> | also, /me <3 Finder, and its "go to folder" thing. |
| 03:07 | <@Vornicus> | ...ooh, tricky one. |
| 03:08 | <@Vornicus> | In Seafarers, there is a "gold" terrain that, when it produces resources, produces any kind you want it to. |
| 03:13 | | ReivZzz is now known as ReivOut |
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| 03:26 | <@Vornicus> | And in C&K, a city can produce different resources from a settlement - on Mountain, Pasture, and Forest terrains, the second resource is Coin, CLoth, or Paper, respectively, as opposed to the usual Ore, Wool, or Wood. |
| 03:34 | <@Vornicus> | that second one isn't too horribly hard, now that I think about it, but. |
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| 05:50 | <@Vornicus> | nor the first, if I do it right. |
| 05:50 | <@Vornicus> | meh |
| 05:50 | <@Vornicus> | I will have to burn that bridge when I come to it, I think. |
| 05:52 | <@Reiver> | Just make sure your design is sufficiently modular to allow the rules to get yoinked like that, and you'll be fine |
| 05:53 | <@Vornicus> | Yeah. |
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| 09:00 | < Vornicus> | ...it is worky! |
| 09:00 | < Chalcedon> | yay? |
| 09:01 | | * Vornicus can use Python instead of Ruby! |
| 09:01 | < Chalcedon> | yay! |
| 09:02 | | * Vornicus is so freaking glad, as he loves him some Python |
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| 09:26 | < Reiver> | YEY VORN |
| 09:26 | < Reiver> | (Why were you using Ruby to start with?) |
| 09:31 | < Vornicus> | Because it had Rails. |
| 09:32 | < Vornicus> | Python has Django, which is similar, but earlier I had trouble getting it to run. |
| 09:41 | < Reiver> | Man |
| 09:41 | < Reiver> | It sounds like Rails is like, Rubys whole selling point. |
| 09:54 | < Vornicus> | Essentially |
| 09:54 | < Vornicus> | Ruby is a scary language in a lot of ways, in particular in the programmer's ability to change classes on the fly - and, at that, that the programmer is /encouraged/ and sometimes /required/ to do so. |
| 09:57 | < Reiver> | Good Ideas, Dangerous In Practice? |
| 09:58 | < Vornicus> | Essentially, yeah |
| 09:58 | < Vornicus> | I mean, sure, it's really convenient to be able to add a specific ability to the standard array class, for instance |
| 09:59 | | * EvilDarkLord hoorays, can now read Vorn's code too :) |
| 09:59 | < Vornicus> | but to /have to/ change the behavior of regular numbers to add a class that handles complex numbers? |
| 09:59 | < Vornicus> | It's bad evil and wrong. |
| 09:59 | < Reiver> | *nod* |
| 10:02 | < Vornicus> | (which is something that Lua and Python get right - in both, you can make 5 * Complex(15, 2) work via a method on the Complex class, which presumably you control. |
| 10:03 | < Vornicus> | (though Python has a complex type built in; hell, it even has a literal) |
| 10:04 | < Vornicus> | (which is Damn Convenient) |
| 10:07 | < Vornicus> | There are some things Ruby does right - allowing underscores in numeric literals so you can go 31_556_926 and actually read it (number of seconds in a year) |
| 10:08 | < Vornicus> | also I'm somewhat a fan of regex-as-literal, but that's also in Perl and I can kinda live without it. |
| 10:09 | < Vornicus> | Anyway |
| 10:09 | < Vornicus> | It is bedtime. |
| 10:10 | < ChalcyCleaning> | nini Vorn |
| 10:13 | <@AnnoDomini> | Hm. Anybody know if there's a way to check if you're opped from under mIRC scripts? |
| 10:13 | | * Vornicus knows that Schlock can do it, but isn't sure how. |
| 10:14 | <@AnnoDomini> | Ah, here it is. A subfunction of $comchan... How does that make sense? |
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| 10:17 | <@AnnoDomini> | Which doesn't do what I need. :/ |
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| 13:57 | <@ToxicFrog> | AnnoDomini: both NAMES and WHOIS will get you that info |
| 13:58 | < AnnoDomini> | I don't want to fiddle with RAW, you know. |
| 13:58 | < AnnoDomini> | And I've solved the problem with $nick(). |
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| 17:41 | <@Pi> | /if <nick> isop <channel> { do_stuff } else { etc } |
| 17:41 | <@Pi> | See also /help /if |
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