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| 04:19 | <@Reiver> | So. |
| 04:19 | <@Reiver> | Reccomendations on a decent SSH client for Windows? |
| 04:22 | | * Chalcedon idly wonders which language to learn next |
| 04:22 | <@Vornicus> | PuTTY |
| 04:22 | <@Chalcedon> | or maybe I should settle for getting my Python properly straightened out. |
| 04:22 | <@Reiver> | Make sure you can still write Python. :) |
| 04:22 | <@Vornicus> | Getting your Python down is a great idea. |
| 04:22 | <@Reiver> | hee |
| 04:22 | <@Chalcedon> | the whole time I've been learning C# my brain has kept trying to think in Python |
| 04:23 | <@Chalcedon> | working out how to do GUI's in Python would be good too |
| 04:27 | <@Vornicus> | That would be good. McM probably has some sample code you can steal. |
| 04:27 | <@Chalcedon> | Forj was playing with a Python GUI plug in at one point |
| 04:34 | <@Vornicus> | I also recommend checking out PostScript, because it's... very, very funky. |
| 05:10 | <@Chalcedon> | I have met PostScript |
| 05:10 | <@Chalcedon> | I shall have to investigate further |
| 05:14 | <@Vornicus> | PostScript is my tool of choice for generating graphics. |
| 05:14 | <@Vornicus> | It has /scads/ of control. |
| 05:15 | | * Chalcedon nods |
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| 21:07 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | I really hate it when you have something all implemented, but your instinctive naming conventions are incompatible with the language. |
| 21:07 | <@AnnoDomini> | Wut. |
| 21:07 | <@jerith> | That's caught me in Erlang. |
| 21:08 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | AnnoDomini: I have implemented OO in Lua (again). I also want to extend type() (return a string describing the type of an object) to work with this. |
| 21:08 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | So that, for example, type(Symbol()) returns "Symbol" rather than "userdata". |
| 21:09 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | This is trivial. |
| 21:09 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | I also want a way to get at the corresponding type object, so that foo(Symbol()) returns Symbol. |
| 21:09 | <@jerith> | Because all "variables" start with capitals. |
| 21:09 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | However, my instinct is to name the latter "type" and the former "typename". |
| 21:10 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Lua calls the former "type", and doesn't have the latter, as all eight of the builtin types are primitives and thus have no type objects. |
| 21:10 | <@AnnoDomini> | I see. |
| 21:11 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | I could of course trivially replace the former, but only if I wanted to totally break lots of existing code. |
| 21:11 | <@jerith> | And just when I get used to that, I switch to Ruby where capitals mean "constant". |
| 21:11 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Maybe I should call them type() and instanceof() or something. |
| 21:12 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | so that instanceof(Symbol()) == Symbol, and type(Symbol()) == "Symbol" (and type(Symbol) == "Class") |
| 21:12 | <@jerith> | Interestingly, Ruby "constants" can be changed (with a warning) whereas Erlang "variables" can't. :-) |
| 21:12 | <@ToxicFrog|W`rkn> | Pfft. |
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