| --- Log opened Fri May 25 00:00:59 2007 |
| 00:09 | | GeekSoldier is now known as GeekSoldier|Sleep |
| 00:15 | <@Chalcedon> | is there a good reason why I shouldn't be able to use a for loop to set a list of String objects sequentially to the value of a series of strings in another list. |
| 00:15 | <@Chalcedon> | *? |
| 00:15 | <@Vornicus> | Sounds like it should work, but it might be tricky. |
| 00:15 | <@Vornicus> | Well, actually, show us what you mean. |
| 00:16 | <@Chalcedon> | for (int index = 0; index < 11; index++) |
| 00:16 | <@Chalcedon> | { |
| 00:16 | <@Chalcedon> | characterAttributes[index] = baseStats[index]; |
| 00:16 | <@Chalcedon> | } |
| 00:16 | <@Chalcedon> | character attributes is a list of String objects. baseStats is a list of strings. |
| 00:16 | <@Chalcedon> | (well, arrays at the moment, but I tried lists first) |
| 00:17 | <@Vornicus> | It should work, if you have made sure that characterAttributes has enough elements in the first place. |
| 00:17 | <@Chalcedon> | yes. |
| 00:17 | | * Chalcedon has an idea. |
| 00:17 | <@Chalcedon> | I don't actually /need/ the string objects |
| 00:19 | <@Chalcedon> | yup, that works, shortens the code quite a bit too. |
| 00:19 | <@Vornicus> | If you're copying the whole list, you can use a Copy Constructor. |
| 00:20 | <@Chalcedon> | I realised I only needed a list of strings. |
| 00:20 | <@Chalcedon> | I've set it up as an object, so I just need to set the get{} to return baseStats[index] instead of a named variable. |
| 00:21 | <@Chalcedon> | It's maybe not quite as easy to follow, but it's a whole lot shorter and saves me, effectively repeating myself. |
| 00:22 | <@Chalcedon> | any suggestions on how to shorten the gets? |
| 00:22 | <@Chalcedon> | or do I just have to type the lot out? |
| 00:25 | <@Vornicus> | Show me, again, because I don't know C# |
| 00:28 | <@Chalcedon> | what, one of the get{}s? |
| 00:28 | <@Chalcedon> | (sorry, I don't want to code spam unnecissarily) |
| 00:28 | <@Vornicus> | The whole mess, I don't know what you're doing. |
| 00:28 | <@Vornicus> | and this is why we have a pastebin. |
| 00:30 | <@Chalcedon> | :) |
| 00:30 | <@Chalcedon> | nah, don't worry about it. |
| 00:31 | <@Chalcedon> | it's really only an excersize and it was mostly copy paste. |
| 00:31 | <@Chalcedon> | I'm fairly sure you /can't/ shorten it because of the structure. |
| 00:31 | <@Vornicus> | blarg |
| 00:31 | <@Chalcedon> | blarg? |
| 00:31 | <@Vornicus> | blarg! |
| 00:31 | <@Chalcedon> | o.O |
| 00:32 | <@Vornicus> | (by the way: characterAttributes[:11] = baseStats[:11] ) |
| 00:32 | | * Chalcedon hopes she has not enblargenated Vorn |
| 00:32 | <@Vornicus> | indeed not |
| 00:32 | <@Chalcedon> | what does that do? |
| 00:32 | <@Vornicus> | What you did up there, in Python. |
| 00:32 | <@Chalcedon> | copies the whole thing? |
| 00:32 | <@Vornicus> | If you want the whole thing: characterAttributes = baseStats[:] |
| 00:33 | <@Chalcedon> | what, a shortcut in C#? Never! |
| 00:33 | <@Chalcedon> | its good to know how you do that in Python though. |
| 00:34 | | * Vornicus <3 Python. |
| 00:34 | <@Vornicus> | actually I did that in the permutations code. |
| 00:34 | <@Chalcedon> | I remember the [:] yes |
| 00:34 | <@Chalcedon> | create a copy |
| 00:35 | | * Chalcedon hrm |
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| 00:52 | < Takyoji> | *shrugs* I think all I needed for my Javascript scenario was by just using the 'this' keyword |
| 00:54 | <@ToxicFrog> | ....yay? |
| 00:54 | < Takyoji> | I guess |
| 00:55 | < Takyoji> | I thought it meant for using different types of objects in JS.. |
| 00:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | Context is generally considered desireable. |
| 01:02 | < Takyoji> | Sorry I take that back... even the 'this' keyword doesn't even work |
| 01:04 | < Takyoji> | oh, NOW I found it |
| 01:05 | < Takyoji> | 'this' has to be handled like: |
| 01:06 | < Takyoji> | <script> |
| 01:06 | < Takyoji> | function blah ( objectRef ) { |
| 01:06 | < Takyoji> | document.write("<p>Color is" + objectRef.style.color + "</p>"); |
| 01:06 | < Takyoji> | } </script> |
| 01:06 | < Takyoji> | <p onMouseOver="blah(this)">You get the point...</p> |
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| 04:32 | <@Derakon> | I believe I've figured out how the makers of N handled the problem of SAT not being able to tell you how to hold still on slopes. |
| 04:32 | <@Derakon> | Namely, in N, you can't hold still on slopes. |
| 04:36 | <@Vornicus> | heh |
| 04:54 | <@Derakon> | Okay, engine? The intersection of <640, 507><640, 602> and <600, 600><600, 700> does, in fact, exist. |
| 04:54 | <@Vornicus> | uh |
| 04:54 | <@Vornicus> | no? |
| 04:54 | <@Vornicus> | Those two lines are parallel. |
| 04:54 | <@Derakon> | ...right, two vertical lines. |
| 04:54 | < Takyoji> | Hmm.. I never noticed there was a forum on NightStar... especially after I realized someone quoted me which I found from Google |
| 04:54 | | * Derakon coughs. |
| 04:55 | <@Derakon> | I meant <600, 600><700, 600> as the second line. |
| 04:56 | <@Vornicus> | that should exist, <640, 600> |
| 04:56 | <@Derakon> | Right. But my functions aren't finding it. |
| 04:57 | | * Vornicus hunts his lineline intersection code. |
| 04:57 | <@Derakon> | I have line-line intersection code that I'm fairly certain works. |
| 04:58 | <@Derakon> | It has a couple special cases for vertical and horizontal lines that I'd love to be able to ditch, though. |
| 05:00 | <@Derakon> | ...apparently they don't work. Bah. |
| 05:00 | <@Derakon> | I want to know if a horizontal line intersects a vertical line! This is not rocket science! |
| 05:01 | | * Derakon glares at the him of a year or two ago. |
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| 05:06 | <@Derakon> | ...ahh. I was doing line segment intersection, not line intersection. |
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| 05:07 | <@Vornicus> | Should still succeed. |
| 05:08 | <@Derakon> | No; the actual lines I'm testing for intersection are based on the endpoints of the lines I listed and a velocity vector. |
| 05:08 | <@Derakon> | And thus are considerably shorter. |
| 05:33 | <@Derakon> | ...Mouse is using a PS1 controller to lasso a Tear. |
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| 06:00 | <@Vornicus> | Der: ....what? |
| 06:02 | <@Derakon> | ReBoot episode. |
| 06:02 | <@Vornicus> | ...aha. |
| 06:04 | <@Derakon> | Mouse also has a snazzy katana that fits into a ~12" sheath on her calf. |
| 06:04 | <@Derakon> | Despite being otherwise full-size. |
| 06:04 | <@Vornicus> | I want one. |
| 06:13 | <@Derakon> | Whee season two has an exponential dimmer switch. |
| 06:19 | <@Derakon> | YES! Finally! |
| 06:19 | <@Derakon> | I have a sprite standing on another sprite without jittering all over the place! |
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| 06:20 | <@Vornicus> | Woohoo! |
| 06:22 | <@Derakon> | Now I just have to work out the proper normals for the lines involved in the collision so that I can let my sprites *walk* on each other too. |
| 06:22 | <@Derakon> | Or I could watch another ReBoot episode before bed. |
| 06:28 | | * Derakon snerks as Dot trots out a gun about five times her volume held in both hands. |
| 07:09 | | * Derakon makes LJ post, heads for bed. Night, all. |
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| 14:38 | | * ToxicFrog is still in season 1 |
| 14:38 | < Reiver> | ? |
| 14:38 | < GeekSoldier> | ReBoot |
| 14:38 | < GeekSoldier> | backscroll from 7 hours ago. |
| 14:38 | < Reiver> | Loved that show. ;_; |
| 14:38 | | * AnnoDomini too! |
| 14:38 | < Reiver> | For the sheer glorious brainlessness of it, but it was fun |
| 14:39 | | * AnnoDomini knew next to nothing outside of video games about CompSci, so he didn't notice the brainlessness. |
| 14:40 | < Reiver> | Well, more that it wasn't a terribly intelligent show. |
| 14:40 | < Reiver> | Kids show, and all. |
| 14:40 | < Reiver> | But it was fun. |
| 15:16 | | * Serah stabs Reiver with a spoon. |
| 15:16 | | * Reiver dies. |
| 15:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | I've been having fun mapping characters to their real-world equivalents. |
| 15:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | I still think Hex is the entropy pool. |
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| 15:39 | < Reiver> | ...beg pardon? |
| 16:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | ? |
| 16:07 | <@ToxicFrog> | Which part? |
| 16:09 | < MyCatVerbs> | All of it. |
| 16:09 | < MyCatVerbs> | And the part with the sausages, too. |
| 16:09 | < MyCatVerbs> | Oh, my bacon. Cheese-toasted sausages dancing with tacos on a sea of broken glass. |
| 16:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh dear. |
| 16:15 | | * ToxicFrog eyes his script as it attempts to invoke sed with some 13,600 arguments. |
| 16:16 | < MyCatVerbs> | ToxicFrog: I didn't realise bash even allowed you to put together command strings that long. |
| 16:16 | < MyCatVerbs> | ToxicFrog: or are you exec(2)ing directly? |
| 16:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | No, bash. And I interrupted it before it actually called sed; constructing the argument list was taking way too long. |
| 16:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | oh god nooooo |
| 16:37 | | * ToxicFrog weeps |
| 16:37 | <@ToxicFrog> | So. I have a bash script that searches the source for #includes and determines if they need to be altered to match case with the actual file. |
| 16:38 | <@ToxicFrog> | I have run into an unforseen difficulty. |
| 16:38 | <@ToxicFrog> | Specifically, we have lots of duplicate filenames in different modules. |
| 16:38 | <@ToxicFrog> | For example, auth.h, auth.h and Auth.h. |
| 16:38 | <@ToxicFrog> | And the script can't tell which one you're trying to include. |
| 16:44 | | * ToxicFrog starts mixing languages with abandon |
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| 17:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | Quick poll. Overloading + to mean string concatenation. Better or worse than having a seperate concat operator? |
| 17:20 | <@gnolam> | Depends on if you expect to do a lot of generalized concatenations (i.e. all kinds of lists and arrays). |
| 17:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | Well, actually, I phrased the question wrong. |
| 17:28 | <@ToxicFrog> | "using for concatenation an operate that means something different elsewhere in the language" |
| 17:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | The discussion in question is of Java's +, which is both summation and concatenation. |
| 17:29 | <@ToxicFrog> | And what happens when you do { 1+"2" }, which is fairly obvious in languages where it doesn't mean both but is less so in Java. |
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| --- Log closed Sat May 26 00:00:05 2007 |