| --- Log opened Wed Dec 13 00:00:03 2006 |
| 00:15 | | * Vornicus accidentally pressed "h", and discovered that it's more than up/down/pgup/pgdn/q |
| 00:19 | < MyCatOwnz> | Eh? You mean like how control-H = backspace? Or something else? |
| 00:19 | <@Vornicus> | no, just h. |
| 00:19 | <@Vornicus> | I pressed the h key in less, and got the help screen. |
| 00:25 | | * MyCatOwnz stares at his keyboard. |
| 00:25 | < MyCatOwnz> | Also, try "ZZ" "j" and "k" |
| 00:26 | < MyCatOwnz> | Basically, the designers of less took every imaginable keybinding and put them all in. |
| 00:27 | < MyCatOwnz> | It responds to vi keys, it responds to emacs keys. Handily, vi tends to use nekkid keys and emacs tends to use control characters and escape sequences, so there's almost no conflict. ^_^ |
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| 06:57 | < bagel> | http://gh.ffshrine.org/soundtracks.php?r=39299 has mp3s of music for nearly every game ever! |
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| 18:10 | | * ToxicFrog eyes this joke his sister just sent him |
| 18:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | How do you escape the Spanish Inquisition? |
| 18:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | Spanish\ Inquisition |
| 18:11 | <@Vornicus> | :( |
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| 20:24 | | * ToxicFrog proceeds to do some truly twisted sed-fu |
| 20:27 | <@Vornicus> | Show us! |
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| 20:31 | <@ToxicFrog> | It's not done yet. |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | But the short version, I'm reading this: |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | <script language='javascript'> |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | function decode(s) { |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | var output = s; |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | output = output.replace(/##x/g,'h'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | output = output.replace(/##r/g,'t'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | output = output.replace(/##v/g,'p'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | output = output.replace(/##i/g,':'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | output = output.replace(/##c/g,'/'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | output = output.replace(/##z/g,'w'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | output = output.replace(/##g/g,'.'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | document.write(output); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | } |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | document.write('Here\'s your link: <a href="'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | decode('##x##r##r##v##i##c##cd3##gffs##xrine##gorg##csound##rracks##cSonic & Knuckles-Sonic ##r##xe Hedge##xog 3 Remix##c03-flying_ba##r##rery##gm##v3'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | document.write('">click here</a>.<br><br>'); |
| 20:32 | <@ToxicFrog> | And turning the output.replace() calls into a set of arguments to sed which will decode the string being passed to decode() |
| 20:35 | <@Vornicus> | ...it's... ...a... |
| 20:35 | <@Vornicus> | a filename unstomper? |
| 20:35 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
| 20:35 | <@ToxicFrog> | The arms race between me and GH continues. |
| 20:36 | <@Vornicus> | Impressive. |
| 20:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | Updating their scripts to randomly select link names didn't stop me, so now they generate the link at load time using JavaScript. |
| 20:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | They think that will stop me, those fools. |
| 20:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | But I'll show them! |
| 20:36 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'LL SHOW THEM ALL! |
| 20:37 | <@Vornicus> | Especially those fools at the institute? |
| 20:38 | <@ToxicFrog> | Quite. |
| 20:50 | <@ToxicFrog> | Ok, it's done. |
| 20:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | filter=`cat /tmp/$$.link \ |
| 20:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | | egrep -o 'replace\(.*\);' \ |
| 20:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | | sed -r 's~replace\(/([^/]+)/g,'"'(.*)'"'\);~-e s_\1_\2_g~g' \ |
| 20:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | | escape` |
| 20:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | link=`cat /tmp/$$.link \ |
| 20:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | | egrep -o 'decode\(.*\);' \ |
| 20:51 | <@ToxicFrog> | | sed -r -e 's~decode\('"'(.*)'"'\);~\1~' $filter` |
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| 20:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | Wow, I blew up Vorn's connection. |
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| 20:57 | <@Vornicus> | Heh |
| 20:57 | <@Vornicus> | The whole office went out. |
| 20:57 | <@Vornicus> | Last thing I saw you say was "Quite." |
| 20:57 | <@Vornicus> | (but I lasted ten minutes longer on Freenode) |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | filter=`cat /tmp/$$.link \ |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | | egrep -o 'replace\(.*\);' \ |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | | sed -r 's~replace\(/([^/]+)/g,'"'(.*)'"'\);~-e s_\1_\2_g~g' \ |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | | escape` |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | link=`cat /tmp/$$.link \ |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | | egrep -o 'decode\(.*\);' \ |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | | sed -r -e 's~decode\('"'(.*)'"'\);~\1~' $filter` |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | It is done. |
| 20:58 | <@Vornicus> | ...twisted |
| 20:58 | <@Vornicus> | what's $$ again? |
| 20:58 | <@ToxicFrog> | PID. |
| 20:58 | <@Vornicus> | aha |
| 20:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | When making temporary files it is a good way to make sure you don't collide with anything. |
| 20:59 | <@Vornicus> | it's a good idea |
| 20:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | It should be possible to run arbitrarily many copies of ghdl at once, and indeed I have tested this with up to three at a time. |
| 20:59 | | * Vornicus ponders if /tmp is a good candidate to put on a ramdisk. |
| 21:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
| 21:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | It sees a lot of use and doesn't need to be persistent. |
| 21:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | Just, umm. |
| 21:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | If you're playing around with CD/DVD burning software. |
| 21:00 | | * Vornicus is more concerned with how big it is. |
| 21:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | Make sure it doesn't try to put its ~4.5GB intermediate images in /tmp |
| 21:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | If I'm /not/ burning, mine has yet to rise above 8MB. |
| 21:01 | <@Vornicus> | ok |
| 21:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | Wait, no, I lie. |
| 21:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | The one on the laptop is up to 9.6MB |
| 21:01 | <@Vornicus> | ok |
| 21:01 | <@ToxicFrog> | (and 345 files) |
| 21:02 | <@ToxicFrog> | New version LJposted. |
| 21:02 | <@Vornicus> | sweet |
| 21:04 | <@ToxicFrog> | And now, r0xx0r |
| 21:05 | <@Vornicus> | Those fools at the Institute! |
| 21:08 | <@Vornicus> | I have Donkey Kong Country music stuck in my head. |
| 21:08 | <@ToxicFrog> | I have Sonic & Knuckles music stuck in my head. |
| 21:08 | <@ToxicFrog> | For, like, the past month and a half. |
| 21:08 | <@Vornicus> | Heh |
| 21:08 | <@Vornicus> | It's been that and Booster Tower from Mario RPG most of my month. |
| 21:09 | <@ToxicFrog> | Act 2 Boss is unbelievably cracktastic. |
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| 22:06 | <@Vornicus> | gnarg. |
| 22:06 | < AnnoDomini> | Writing a short heroic fantasy story, Vornicus? |
| 22:06 | <@Vornicus> | ..wtf? |
| 22:07 | < AnnoDomini> | Grignr. Gnarg. |
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| 22:11 | < Takyoji> | What is a work around from the "Click here to active this control" thing in Flash files? |
| 22:13 | < MyCatOwnz> | Takyoji: Flashblock plugin for Firefox. No more flash files, therefore no more problem. ^_^ |
| 22:14 | < Takyoji> | I mean, on a developer end, not a clients end |
| 22:15 | < Takyoji> | developer's* |
| 22:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | Don't use Flash. |
| 22:15 | < Takyoji> | Well, there's that |
| 22:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | I'm quite serious. |
| 22:15 | <@ToxicFrog> | Flash is not in fact a solution, it is a problem in its own right. |
| 22:15 | < MyCatOwnz> | Takyoji: Frog was actually understating the problem. |
| 22:16 | <@ToxicFrog> | The "click here to activate this control" problem is actually just one facet of the larger problem, to wit, "this page is using Flash" |
| 22:16 | < MyCatOwnz> | Takyoji: on behalf of your users: please don't use Flash. Except for cartoons à la albinoblacksheep, please, don't use Flash. |
| 22:16 | < Takyoji> | k |
| 22:17 | < Takyoji> | alternate idea then? |
| 22:17 | < Takyoji> | Stick to plain HTML/ and or CSS? |
| 22:17 | <@ToxicFrog> | HTML, CSS, JavaScript. |
| 22:18 | < MyCatOwnz> | In that order. |
| 22:18 | < MyCatOwnz> | Use HTML with a sprinkling of *simple* CSS if you can get away with that. |
| 22:18 | <@Vornicus> | HTML and CSS are always good. |
| 22:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | (be careful with the javascript, though - the page should be usable without it. For example, if you have cascading JS menus, the <noscript> default should be all menus expanded, not contracted; it'll look like ass, but it will be usable, whereas the converse requires the user to dig through your source and figure out where the links went.) |
| 22:19 | <@ToxicFrog> | MCO: CSS is generally awesome. |
| 22:19 | < MyCatOwnz> | Use HTML with crazy CSS is you absolutely need it. Avoid using Javascript at all if you can get away without it. |
| 22:19 | < MyCatOwnz> | *if |
| 22:19 | <@Vornicus> | CSS can be tricky getting right across browsers, but IE7 is a bit nicer about it than previous versions. |
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| 22:33 | <@Vornicus> | (also you can finally use partially transparent PNGs!) |
| 22:34 | < MyCatOwnz> | Vornicus: amen to that. |
| 22:37 | < TakyojiClone2> | Although a handful of browser still don't support transparency masks for PNGs... |
| 22:37 | < TakyojiClone2> | which sux.. |
| 22:37 | <@Vornicus> | lynx, for instance. |
| 22:37 | <@Vornicus> | :P |
| 22:37 | < TakyojiClone2> | I wish it were implemented at the start |
| 22:37 | < TakyojiClone2> | Anyway, how'd a person be able to make a table version of this? http://www.dynamicdrive.com/style/csslibrary/item/thick-padding-tabs/ |
| 22:37 | < EvilDarkLord> | Transparent ascii for lynx, perhaps? =) |
| 22:38 | < MyCatOwnz> | EvilDarkLord: there's actually a special ASCII code for that. |
| 22:38 | < MyCatOwnz> | 0x20. |
| 22:39 | < MyCatOwnz> | TakyojiClone2: you couldn't, without resorting to Javascript abuse. |
| 22:40 | < MyCatOwnz> | TakyojiClone2: however, since it *can* be done with CSS and without JS, in my book, such abuse of JS is vertboten! Therefore I'd go for your solution. |
| 22:42 | < TakyojiClone2> | so there's no way to imply CSS into a table? |
| 22:42 | < TakyojiClone2> | with a background image as the cells? |
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| 22:42 | < TakyojiClone2> | Or just have javascript change the background image on hover |
| 22:42 | < MyCatOwnz> | TakyojiClone2: oh, good idea! But that'd make the effect dependant on the pixel size of the user's screen. Nicht so gut. |
| 22:43 | < MyCatOwnz> | TakyojiClone2: and JavaScript ist vertboten, dammit! |
| 22:43 | < TakyojiClone2> | oh well |
| 22:44 | < TakyojiClone2> | I am against Javascript, but in this type of situation is just a small detail that it can work with or without with ease |
| 22:44 | <@ToxicFrog> | Umm. Is there any reason why that /wouldn't/ work in a table? |
| 22:44 | < TakyojiClone2> | I mean, to have the background image change when the cursor is hovering it |
| 22:45 | < TakyojiClone2> | would I have to use HTML DOM for that? |
| 22:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | I mean - correct me if I'm wrong here, my understanding of CSS is kind of fragmentary - you bind it to <td> instead of to <ul> |
| 22:45 | < TakyojiClone2> | oh duh, |
| 22:45 | < TakyojiClone2> | that should work |
| 22:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | Something like: |
| 22:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | #thicktabs ul:hover { |
| 22:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | background-image: foo.png |
| 22:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | } |
| 22:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | Err. |
| 22:45 | <@ToxicFrog> | td:hover |
| 22:46 | < TakyojiClone2> | ahh k |
| 22:47 | <@ToxicFrog> | Bear in mind I don't know CSS, so this code probably won't work out of the box. |
| 22:48 | < TakyojiClone2> | Yea, I actually just changed "ul" to "td" in an existing script |
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| 22:54 | < TakyojiClone> | aaaand I can't get it to work |
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| 22:55 | < TakyojiClone> | so, 'tr' instead? |
| 22:59 | <@ToxicFrog> | I don't know! |
| 22:59 | < TakyojiClone> | sorry |
| 23:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | Oh, hang on. |
| 23:00 | <@ToxicFrog> | where are you putting the id=? |
| 23:01 | < TakyojiClone> | actually holdon for another second |
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| 23:10 | < TakyojiClone> | I've tried it in the 'tr','td', and 'table' |
| 23:10 | < TakyojiClone> | tags |
| 23:10 | <@ToxicFrog> | Ok, so try this. |
| 23:11 | <@ToxicFrog> | Put it in the <table> tag and make the CSS name: #thicktabs table tr td:hover |
| 23:11 | < TakyojiClone> | oh |
| 23:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | Alternately, try putting it on #thicktabs table tr td a:hover |
| 23:12 | <@ToxicFrog> | And thus putting the background image on the links rather than on the table cells. |
| 23:15 | < TakyojiClone> | I'm trying to use this: http://pastie.caboo.se/27475 (before editing) |
| 23:16 | < TakyojiClone> | I've tried changing it to "table tr td" instead of "li" and it doesn't work |
| 23:16 | < TakyojiClone> | with the id set in the table tag |
| 23:17 | | * ToxicFrog shrugs |
| 23:18 | <@ToxicFrog> | You will need to speak to someone who knows CSS, then. |
| 23:18 | < TakyojiClone> | oh k |
| 23:19 | < TakyojiClone> | woah, one of the scripts I tried using before which didn't work, works now |
| 23:20 | < TakyojiClone> | just having it set to 'td' and having the id set in the table tag works |
| 23:21 | < TakyojiClone> | glad that works |
| 23:25 | < TakyojiClone> | otherwise, wouldn't it be wiser to record the hostname of visitors to see where they're from? Because of the state prefix in the name, and also getting the IP address? |
| 23:28 | < TakyojiClone> | I'll be back in a moment |
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| 23:33 | <@ToxicFrog> | TakyojiClone: (1) the hostname would be derived from the IP address anyways via reverse lookup. |
| 23:34 | <@ToxicFrog> | (2) The state prefix in the name is an artifact of our IRC server configuration, not part of their reverse DNS and not part of most DNS entries. |
| 23:51 | < TakyojiClone> | ohh.. |
| 23:53 | < TakyojiClone> | I mean, is this considered a hostname?: 71-82-141-6.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com |
| 23:53 | < Ev3> | That is a hostname, yes,. |
| 23:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | Yes. |
| 23:55 | < TakyojiClone> | Actually, what would be a better solution for finding where people are from PHP? |
| 23:55 | <@ToxicFrog> | There is no truly reliable way. All you have is their IP address. |
| 23:55 | < TakyojiClone> | I guess |
| 23:56 | <@Vornicus> | There's are internet atlas things, but those are alternately perfect or useless depending on the IP. |
| 23:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | From that you can get their reverse DNS and WHOIS information, which will include the location of the owner of that IP block, which may have nothing to do with the location of the actual IP. |
| 23:56 | <@ToxicFrog> | You can use the ICBM address, if you can find a reliable lookup system for it, but that only works for some IPs. |
| 23:57 | <@ToxicFrog> | Generally you can narrow it down to a single continent, but anything further than that is hit and miss depending on the IP in question. |
| 23:57 | < TakyojiClone> | ahh |
| --- Log closed Thu Dec 14 00:00:03 2006 |