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06:31 | <@Reiver> | ...Poor Lukhan thought he was talking to me. |
06:31 | <@Reiver> | Ok, suddenly his nitpickyness makes much more sense. |
06:31 | | * Reiver chuckles. |
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07:03 | | * EvilDarkLord is having extensive trouble booting up his Windows machine, ponders if someone might be willing to lend a hand. |
07:06 | < EvilDarkLord> | (Whenever I boot, either in problem-resistant mode or normally, it flashes a BSOD and reboots) |
07:08 | < EvilDarkLord> | Could have something to do with me running a defrag on it just before. |
07:09 | <@TheWatcher> | What's the start of the error report on the bsod? |
07:09 | <@TheWatcher> | I'm guessing you've got a corrput driver |
07:09 | <@TheWatcher> | a corrupt one, too |
07:10 | < EvilDarkLord> | Ack. The BSOD flashes by pretty quickly, hang on while I try to make some sense of it :) |
07:11 | < EvilDarkLord> | The last working configuration isn't operational either. |
07:11 | | * Mahal blinks at EDL |
07:11 | <@Mahal> | I am having that exact problem with a server today. |
07:13 | <@TheWatcher> | IIRC there's a mode where you can manually specify which drivers to load? Try using that and, if you hit a driver load that bsods then you've probably found the culprit... |
07:16 | <@Reiver> | Safe mode, TW? |
07:17 | | * EvilDarkLord lists his mode choices: Safe mode, safe mode with network, safe mode from command line, last working configuration, and normal boot. |
07:17 | <@TheWatcher> | eugh |
07:17 | < EvilDarkLord> | What I get to choose in Safe mode is only whether to load SPTD.sys and a347bus.sys |
07:18 | <@Reiver> | Try command line? |
07:18 | < EvilDarkLord> | I've tried them all several times :) |
07:18 | <@Reiver> | Ow. |
07:18 | <@Reiver> | I then reccomend you reboot. ;) |
07:19 | < EvilDarkLord> | Thanks for the tip, but the system is already pretty cooperative when it comes to booting all the time. |
07:19 | < EvilDarkLord> | Did you get yer problem diagnosed/fixed, Mahal? |
07:20 | <@TheWatcher> | Try not loading a347bus.sys - that's an alcohol virtual driver anyway |
07:20 | < EvilDarkLord> | Same result. |
07:20 | <@Mahal> | EDL: I'm able to get into safemode, so apparnetly not same problem. |
07:21 | < EvilDarkLord> | Ditto for any other loading combination of those two files. |
07:21 | <@Mahal> | I"m running virus scans yadda yadda. |
07:22 | | * EvilDarkLord hms. Virus software up to date, I haven't visited any sites likely to devour my computer, and the firewall is working. |
07:30 | < EvilDarkLord> | Er. What would be the next step in fixing? Getting an install CD? |
07:30 | <@Reiver> | Probably. :/ |
07:31 | <@Reiver> | There's only so much you can do with windows... |
07:55 | | * EvilDarkLord asks Stupid Question(tm). If I am forced to reinstall, will the hdd have to be formatted first? |
07:57 | <@Reiver> | Depends whether you wish to attempt a Repair install, or a clean install. |
07:57 | <@Reiver> | If the first, no. If the latter, you've little to gain from /not/ doing it... |
07:57 | <@Reiver> | Either way, if you can backup, I would. |
07:58 | < EvilDarkLord> | Hrm. Could move the hard drive into another computer temporarily and do it from there? |
07:58 | <@Mahal> | Yes |
08:00 | < EvilDarkLord> | Luckily I don't have that much actual important data around. Mostly things that will just take a while to reinstall (Though all my CDs including the XP one are 100 km away, grah) |
08:01 | < EvilDarkLord> | Hm. Will the install cd have to be the one that came with the computer to work for a repair install? |
08:01 | < EvilDarkLord> | Or could I borrow another if I can find one? |
08:01 | <@Reiver> | The install CD that came with should /probably/ do it. |
08:07 | <@TheWatcher> | Depends, some cds that come with off-the-shelf boxen will just reformat the drive to the factory install default |
08:07 | <@Reiver> | ...Ow. |
08:07 | <@TheWatcher> | They aren't 'real' windows CDs, just automated reset ones. |
08:07 | | * Reiver had not seen those. Thankye for the warning. |
08:08 | <@Reiver> | ...In a sense it's not terribly a bad idea for idiot-proofing, but. |
08:08 | < EvilDarkLord> | What would happen if I used the CD of a friend with XP? |
08:09 | <@TheWatcher> | Provided it was a real install CD (legal or otherwise) it should work as expected. |
08:09 | < EvilDarkLord> | So it won't check for whether the cd is the same at any point of the installation? |
08:11 | < EvilDarkLord> | Well. I'll try to get home today and find my XP cd plus any other important CDs I might need if I need a clean boot. |
08:11 | < EvilDarkLord> | *clean install |
08:11 | < EvilDarkLord> | Thanks for the help, people. |
08:13 | <@Reiver> | NP. |
08:13 | <@TheWatcher> | No, any install CD should work fine. |
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10:06 | < EvilDarkLord> | I fiddled around with another install CD, but it told me me 'no hard drive detected' (lies says BIOS). The edition of XP is different though - Home vs Pro, and the language is also different. Nevertheless, I was wondering if not detecting a hard drive for the recovery panel is bad news. |
10:06 | <@Reiver> | Is it an SATA hard drive, EDL? |
10:07 | < EvilDarkLord> | Yar. |
10:07 | <@Reiver> | Because straight XP doesn't /support/ SATA - you'll need to dig up drivers. |
10:07 | <@Reiver> | And then install them during the install phase that asks for SCSI drivers. |
10:08 | < EvilDarkLord> | Right. And it presumably can't use the drivers from the home edition because they're, well, different editions? |
10:08 | < EvilDarkLord> | (Not reinstalling here, just trying to open up the recovery panel) |
10:08 | <@Reiver> | Neither Home nor Pro support SATA natively. |
10:09 | <@Reiver> | Not straight off the CD anyway, unless it's a... Service Pack 2 CD or somesuch. |
10:09 | < EvilDarkLord> | Weel, the *original* windows home had service pack up already. |
10:10 | < EvilDarkLord> | Though I didn't actually install it, it was predone by the manufacturer :) |
10:10 | <@Reiver> | Then they would probably have put the custom drivers in during install. |
10:10 | <@Reiver> | It's no trouble - but you need to get hold of the drivers. Search the web, they're out there somewhere... |
10:14 | < EvilDarkLord> | I think they also came with the pack - there was this huge array of drivers for my system on one cd. It's just that all that stuff is back home 100 km away, so I tried using a friend's cd first in hopes of clearing it up without that travel. |
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10:18 | <@Reiver> | You don't need to travel. |
10:18 | <@Reiver> | Google for a set of SATA drivers and you'll be able to continue as normal. |
10:18 | <@Reiver> | (This is the point that having a running boxen is sorta, um, /useful/.) |
10:42 | < EvilDarkLord> | Hm. Assuming I didn't misuse the computer especially, is having to reinstall the worst case scenario? |
10:45 | <@Reiver> | Wiping the hard drive is. |
10:47 | < EvilDarkLord> | Well, should have formulated that as a clean install. Still, I can live with that. I had a few course files there I could lose, but they were mostly for my own learning so no biggie. |
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