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| 02:03 | < Mantisking> | Boo? |
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| 18:16 | < zeekhotep> | anybody in here? |
| 18:17 | < DestinyPlayer> | Yup. |
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| 20:00 | < Mantisking> | Hello? |
| 20:05 | | zeekhotep [NSwebIRC@Nightstar-lk2c1n.res.rr.com] has joined #mf0 |
| 20:05 | < zeekhotep> | sup bitches |
| 20:06 | | Blorf [NSwebIRC@Nightstar-kkha3f.vt.comcast.net] has joined #mf0 |
| 20:06 | < zeekhotep> | hey |
| 20:06 | < Blorf> | Hi there! |
| 20:07 | < Mantisking> | Hey, we have people! |
| 20:07 | < zeekhotep> | these qualify as people? |
| 20:07 | < Mantisking> | sometimes? |
| 20:08 | < DestinyPlayer> | Good evening. |
| 20:08 | < zeekhotep> | they look more like MoFo's to me |
| 20:08 | < Mantisking> | Afternoon for me. |
| 20:08 | < Mantisking> | That's Chief Mof0 to you. |
| 20:08 | < Mantisking> | :-) |
| 20:08 | < zeekhotep> | So how ya been Ray-ray? |
| 20:09 | < Blorf> | Yeah, just after 3 Eastern |
| 20:09 | < Blorf> | This was an unlikely hole in the schedule, so I thought I'd drop in |
| 20:09 | < Mantisking> | I'm okay Zeek. You? |
| 20:09 | < Mantisking> | I'll see you next weekend Blorf. |
| 20:10 | < zeekhotep> | on the road all the time during the week |
| 20:10 | < Mantisking> | That sucks. |
| 20:10 | < zeekhotep> | pays the bills |
| 20:10 | < Mantisking> | True. |
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| 20:11 | < Mantisking> | Any chance you could make it to PAX East 2016? |
| 20:11 | < Mantisking> | Wehave anothger Mike in the building! |
| 20:11 | < Blorf> | All the good ones |
| 20:11 | < zeekhotep> | what are the dates? |
| 20:11 | < mraichelson> | if thereās one thing iāve learned in my life |
| 20:11 | < mraichelson> | itās that thereās always another mike in the building |
| 20:12 | < zeekhotep> | Because big brother is always listening |
| 20:12 | < Mantisking> | PAX East 2016 is April 22 to the 24th. |
| 20:12 | < Blorf> | Might have something to do with being the #1 name for like 30 years |
| 20:13 | | * mraichelson waves giant foam āweāre number oneā finger |
| 20:13 | < mraichelson> | :) |
| 20:13 | < Blorf> | or in the top 10 anyway for about 60 |
| 20:13 | < zeekhotep> | that damned arc angel is to blame methinks |
| 20:13 | < Mantisking> | So what's everyone working on at the moment? |
| 20:14 | < Mantisking> | Wow, that was a conversation killer. |
| 20:14 | < mraichelson> | lol. |
| 20:14 | < zeekhotep> | Trying to get a campaign going on the weekends when I'm home. |
| 20:15 | < Blorf> | Well, chatting here while also playing Einhander with a 2-year-old in my lap is a lot of work |
| 20:15 | < mraichelson> | names to āneeds to start packingā |
| 20:15 | < Mantisking> | Yeah, I have to get my gaming group organized for this year. |
| 20:16 | < zeekhotep> | I have some more Crimson Comandoes that need photographed. |
| 20:17 | < Mantisking> | Nice. Are we going to see a new blog post soon? |
| 20:17 | < zeekhotep> | Maybe |
| 20:18 | < Mantisking> | Cool. It would be good to see you make a resurgence. |
| 20:19 | < Blorf> | I need to finish deciding my loadouts and then see if I need to bring a second company or not for the other kid, if so I have to load that too |
| 20:19 | < Blorf> | But he's never played so at least half of it is easy; it'll be soliders for sure |
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| 20:20 | < Soren> | Hey hey. |
| 20:20 | < zeekhotep> | Yeah, my current job is not compatible with me getting a lot done during the week, and when I get home on the weekends I just wanna sit on my ass |
| 20:20 | < zeekhotep> | hey Soren |
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| 20:20 | < Mantisking> | Hey Soren. |
| 20:21 | < Mantisking> | Looks like we're getting a bit of crowd in here. |
| 20:21 | < Mantisking> | Nice to see. |
| 20:21 | < Soren> | Yeah, itās nice. |
| 20:22 | < zeekhotep> | hey how long you think this will last? I have to go out for about an hour. |
| 20:23 | < Mantisking> | I guess as long as people feel like talking. You can never really tell. |
| 20:23 | | * mraichelson nods |
| 20:23 | < Soren> | Yeah, it could go a while. |
| 20:23 | < zeekhotep> | cool, i will log back in as soon as i get back then |
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| 20:24 | < Soren> | I wasnāt planning on leaving until/unless I got bored, so. |
| 20:24 | < Mantisking> | We'll try and keep things going then. |
| 20:25 | < Blorf_> | I guess the web client isn't too stable. I lost the 2-year-old, though, so that makes it a little easier. |
| 20:25 | < Mantisking> | So, Soren, I'll ask you the same thing I asked everyone else -- what are you working on at the moment? |
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| 20:26 | < Blorf_> | Goodbye, other me! |
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| 20:26 | < Soren> | Iāve got a couple balls in the air right now. One is obviously IO stuff, which is humming along at a snailās pace but picking up steam. |
| 20:27 | < Mantisking> | That's cool. I banged out a couple of IO frigates the other night. |
| 20:27 | < Blorf> | Josh actually hinted a release date to me at PAX, but told me not to tell anyone. And it's a good thing I didn't, because it already went by. :) |
| 20:27 | < Soren> | Another is just, sort lots and lots of the loose Lego that comes out of a transcontinental move, which is going great. |
| 20:27 | < Soren> | haha, yeah. |
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| 20:28 | < Soren> | Donāt trust Joshua when he says things will be done by date X. |
| 20:28 | < Soren> | It might happen, but more likely it will not. |
| 20:28 | < Blorf> | I didn't have any money on the matter, no... |
| 20:29 | < Soren> | My just-for-me project has been modding Starsector, which is puttering along like a shaky two-cycle fun engine at the moment. |
| 20:29 | < Mantisking> | What's the line from the Vegas odds makers? |
| 20:29 | < Soren> | āWho the fuck knows.ā |
| 20:30 | < mraichelson> | those are my odds! |
| 20:30 | | * mraichelson goes all in |
| 20:30 | < Mantisking> | :-) |
| 20:30 | < Soren> | haha |
| 20:30 | < Mantisking> | Oh, Soren, I finally built one of your Striders. |
| 20:30 | < Soren> | Excellent. |
| 20:31 | < Mantisking> | No pictures yet, but it's sitting in the lightbox right now. |
| 20:31 | < Blorf> | We're talking about a project but won't really start on it until IO is out. So I have an interest in when it gets done, but I'll also say I'm in no real hurry on it. |
| 20:32 | < Soren> | Mmm. |
| 20:32 | < Mantisking> | It's based on the same hip structure as this guy. https://www.flickr.com/photos/35895569@N05/17150479616/ |
| 20:32 | < Mantisking> | Blorf, you and Joshua? |
| 20:32 | < Soren> | Yeah, Iām hoping to ramp up and get my portions of the project out the door so I can stop worrying about it. |
| 20:33 | < Soren> | Cute! Thatās a great use for that technic piece. |
| 20:34 | < Mantisking> | I've got two Scramblers and a Strider all built around it. |
| 20:35 | < Mantisking> | Hey, Blorf, do you want to see one of these guys in the brick next weekend? https://www.flickr.com/photos/35895569@N05/16426093017/ |
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| 20:36 | < Blorf_> | Okay, done with that web client now. |
| 20:36 | < Mantisking> | I've had that problem before. It's really annoying. |
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| 20:38 | < eatrepeat> | Mantis that is very cool, I like the colour accents :) |
| 20:38 | < Mantisking> | Okay, serious question time. Could you guys read the first comment here, https://www.flickr.com/photos/35895569@N05/16442995264/ , and tell me if this guy's trolling me? |
| 20:39 | < Soren> | Maybe? |
| 20:39 | < Soren> | Itās a new account and he hasnāt posted anything, so iād just ignore him. |
| 20:40 | < Blorf> | I don't put much stock in comments from accounts with no uploads |
| 20:40 | < Mantisking> | At this point I basically have. |
| 20:40 | < eatrepeat> | the guy is a dick |
| 20:40 | < Soren> | Thereās a very, very small chance that he has anything you need. |
| 20:41 | < Mantisking> | Thanks, guys. |
| 20:41 | < Blorf> | He called my Razors "blocky". |
| 20:41 | < eatrepeat> | lol |
| 20:41 | < Blorf> | It was meant as a compliment, I think... |
| 20:42 | < Blorf> | but I can't say I'd ever describe them that way. |
| 20:42 | < Mantisking> | I will admit it rattled me a bit. Especially as it was a comment on a rebuild. |
| 20:42 | < mraichelson> | āI will make a name for myself as quickly as possible by hook or by crookā |
| 20:43 | < eatrepeat> | people build as they feel |
| 20:43 | < Soren> | I never listen to those guys unless they put their cocks on the chopping block like the rest of us. |
| 20:43 | < Mantisking> | True. |
| 20:44 | < Soren> | Sometimes theyāre good, and just mouthy, but more often they have nothing to back it up with and will eventually go away. |
| 20:45 | < Blorf> | In a similar line I thought they guy who popped up spouting how spotting was a "flavor fail" might head down that road, but was pleasantly surprised by the mature response |
| 20:46 | < Mantisking> | Enh. |
| 20:46 | < eatrepeat> | Yup, let him slide. Got no pics, no blog and no hangar that loves him |
| 20:46 | < eatrepeat> | OH yeah! That Guy was nice :) |
| 20:47 | < eatrepeat> | That need to tweak is always grating on me |
| 20:49 | < mraichelson> | The āI feel like this needs a different ruleā¦and Iām basing that on never having played a game using whatās in there alreadyā always bugs me. |
| 20:49 | < mraichelson> | like, taste it before you add salt. |
| 20:49 | < Soren> | Yeah. |
| 20:49 | < Soren> | Lots of people think they have solved games. |
| 20:49 | < Mantisking> | I've done one minor rule rule mod but I've never taken the time to playtest it. Other than that I think we basically play by the RAW. |
| 20:49 | < Soren> | Very few of them are correct. |
| 20:50 | < mraichelson> | Yeah, my general take is āIām here to spend an afternoon forgetting the real world. The more you add the less I get to reliably do that." |
| 20:51 | | * mraichelson shrugs |
| 20:51 | < Blorf> | We tried environmental on Friday and I made that one change I suggested. I think it worked well. And in that case I'm pretty sure the environmental bits were added to the book more as afterthought of a "hey you could also do this" and not so much a finished rule |
| 20:51 | < Soren> | Well, also, the more stuff you add, the more difficult it is to figure out how it will work at all. |
| 20:51 | < Blorf> | Aside from that, rules as written are really very good |
| 20:52 | < Soren> | I think you can more or less find the same version of that rule on Vincentās blog posts about Mechaton. It was clearly not a finished idea. |
| 20:53 | < Blorf> | My brother doesn't like turn order, but I don't think he spends that time trying to read the other players |
| 20:53 | < eatrepeat> | I too want to test an environment game, Giant ship on half the board with many rooms. a thin 3 brick hull and space for the other half. Might be fun. |
| 20:55 | < Mantisking> | That sounds like a lot of fun. |
| 20:55 | < Mantisking> | A lot of work to get prepped for though. |
| 20:56 | < eatrepeat> | yeah, my biggest problem is only one dedicated player. A few some-timers but that puts most of it on me to prep. |
| 20:56 | < Soren> | It might be a little easier to assemble a big curved wall as a space-station interior, and just stick stuff to the inside as thought it were a normal surface. |
| 20:56 | < Soren> | though* |
| 20:57 | < Blorf> | Yeah it's a little exhausting being the only one totally committed. |
| 20:57 | < Soren> | IF you used the massive array of 1x2 bricks, which is very gently bendable, it wouldnāt even be that pricey to set up. |
| 20:58 | < Blorf> | It does simplify cleanup if you don't have to sort out who each piece belongs to after |
| 20:58 | < Mantisking> | Very true. |
| 20:59 | < Mantisking> | Dumping everything back into my travel bag after PAX East was pretty easy. |
| 21:00 | < mraichelson> | If you do a structure with rows of alternating 1x3 and 1x1 round bricks you can make stuff with a decent amount of flex to it. |
| 21:00 | < mraichelson> | you know. so i hear. |
| 21:00 | < eatrepeat> | thats the idea, the wall is the portion of the ship on the battlefield. Or as you suggest, the space station. |
| 21:01 | < eatrepeat> | Soren suggests* |
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| 21:01 | < CaseyP> | Hey everyone |
| 21:01 | < Blorf> | I'll trade a little cleanup time over having to do 100% of the prep |
| 21:01 | < mraichelson> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/nifkin/14332195194/ |
| 21:02 | < mraichelson> | 1x3 + 1x1 round brick wall |
| 21:02 | < Blorf> | I ran a game Friday to start at 8:00. I'll admit I was a little behind; just setting up the table at that point |
| 21:02 | < Blorf> | at 8:15 two players showed up, one of which had not read the rulebook |
| 21:02 | < eatrepeat> | yup that wall is juicy cool |
| 21:02 | < Soren> | Yeah, the 1x3/1x1 round version cruves more tightly, but the 1x2s will be easier for something big. And a little more solid. |
| 21:03 | < Soren> | curves* |
| 21:03 | < Mantisking> | Were you expecting a newbie at the game? |
| 21:03 | < eatrepeat> | Blorf that sounds about par for me as well |
| 21:03 | < mraichelson> | and probably a lot easier to come by in large volumes. |
| 21:03 | < Blorf> | so I demoed it while we waited for the 4th player, who showed up about an hour later |
| 21:03 | < Mantisking> | Ouch. |
| 21:03 | < CaseyP> | That wall is awesome and I just put in a bricklink order with like 70 grey 1x1 rounds. Might have to try my hand. |
| 21:04 | < Blorf> | Which is frustrating, yes, but not as much as when that 4th guy groaned when I didn't count Doomsday (I was primary and still behind) |
| 21:04 | < Mantisking> | Heh. |
| 21:05 | < Blorf> | You don't show up an hour+ late and then complain about the length. |
| 21:05 | < Mantisking> | Yeah. |
| 21:05 | < CaseyP> | As MoFo evangelists, that's probably the hardest part to deal with. |
| 21:05 | < eatrepeat> | some times that is the best thing though, knowing he wont be back to ruin a second game. |
| 21:05 | < Mantisking> | Did he at least call ahead to say he was going to be late? |
| 21:05 | < Blorf> | So, yeah, really looking forward to Saturday's game. |
| 21:06 | < Blorf> | No, but I got a reply to my outgoing text I sent at 9. |
| 21:07 | < Mantisking> | I kinda figured you were looking forward to it. |
| 21:08 | < eatrepeat> | I'm jealous, been creeping on your little meet up |
| 21:08 | | * mraichelson has no idea what to actually bring |
| 21:08 | < Blorf> | And not to just sit here and complain, but the guy has a large bin of older LEGO but didn't bring frames. So he had to assemble a company when he got there. But he's not content to just take my spare company and spare attachments, he's got to disassemble some bits and create something to make it his own first. |
| 21:09 | < Blorf> | I swear, if he wasn't family... |
| 21:09 | < mraichelson> | lol |
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| 21:10 | < eatrepeat> | we all got some special somewhere in the family |
| 21:11 | < eatrepeat> | Hmmm, maybe we should turn to a lighter topic. Go back to "what you working on"? |
| 21:12 | < mraichelson> | soā¦lego sure is cool, huh? |
| 21:12 | < Soren> | I think itās good to talk about terrible behavior. Itās cathartic. |
| 21:12 | < eatrepeat> | Haahahaaaha |
| 21:12 | < mraichelson> | it can be highly theraputic. |
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| 21:12 | < eatrepeat> | I must know some cooks |
| 21:12 | < Soren> | Helps reinforce that, no, youāre not crazy, dude was being a dick. |
| 21:12 | < mraichelson> | i just tend to avoid it in publicly logged channels. :P |
| 21:12 | < Soren> | haha |
| 21:13 | < Soren> | Fair enough. |
| 21:13 | < Blorf> | Just showing up next week with a company and some felt, and getting started inside of maybe 10 minutes, is going to be excellent. |
| 21:13 | < Mantisking> | So, Caset, what's your handle on the Hangar? |
| 21:13 | < Mantisking> | Casy* |
| 21:14 | < CaseyP> | uh, I am not even 100 percent sure Mantis? I tried to log in the other day and it didn't work, so it's not what I thought it was |
| 21:14 | < Mantisking> | What, you expect us to start on time like we're profesionals or something? :-) |
| 21:14 | < Blorf> | okay, how about starting inside of 90 minutes? |
| 21:14 | < Mantisking> | Let me know if you need a password changed or anything like that. |
| 21:14 | < CaseyP> | trying it right now to see if I can figure it out |
| 21:15 | < CaseyP> | it's Causa |
| 21:15 | < mraichelson> | when were folks shooting to start? i saw MK mention having the table from 10. |
| 21:15 | < CaseyP> | which is a name I use in video games a lot |
| 21:15 | < eatrepeat> | ? ever listened to Causa Sui? |
| 21:16 | < Blorf> | That's an excellent question I've only thought to ask when away from technology. |
| 21:16 | < Mantisking> | I've been mening to ask people myself. |
| 21:16 | < Mantisking> | meaning* |
| 21:17 | < Mantisking> | E-mail sent. |
| 21:17 | < mraichelson> | oh hail the jebus. the latest update to brick wizard lets it NOT crash on OS X. |
| 21:18 | < Soren> | Yay |
| 21:19 | < Mantisking> | Hail? |
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| 21:20 | < Mantisking> | Okay, here's a fun question, what was the last thing that *someone else* built that blew your mind? |
| 21:20 | < GrouchoMarx> | i hope not, i was going to ride my bike. hyuk hyuk. |
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| 21:21 | < eatrepeat> | that thing, chevalier mkII |
| 21:22 | < Blorf> | The whole Twanks thing, really. |
| 21:22 | < eatrepeat> | I didn't understand it at first (that is rarer these days) and when he put chub torso bricks on it I was blown into like drugs or something |
| 21:22 | < Mantisking> | The whole Budget Frame War thing is pretty cool. |
| 21:23 | < eatrepeat> | Budget frames made me so happy |
| 21:23 | < Blorf> | Many of the builds aren't themselves mind-blowing, but all together it's a neat phenomenon |
| 21:23 | < eatrepeat> | thats it, not the one but the whole. The communal response and growth. Pure fun |
| 21:24 | < Mantisking> | The back-and-forth between the different builders was lots of fun. |
| 21:24 | < Mantisking> | I really have to post that second blog post about it. |
| 21:24 | < mraichelson> | the underlying fluff of that makes me warm and fuzzy. āframes that are clunkier, cheaper." |
| 21:25 | < mraichelson> | sure, some people go for the big flashy brain-feed-super-robot-winged-avenging-angel-dragoon scene. |
| 21:25 | < Mantisking> | {* snerk *} |
| 21:25 | < Soren> | https://www.dropbox.com/s/yb95de7b2fzd4cr/Budget%20Quad%2001.jpg?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/dmwzoiom1byozg7/Budget%20Quad%2002.jpg?dl=0 I forget if I posted this, but it is also reasonably cheap. |
| 21:25 | < mraichelson> | but when you need to outfit an entire colony knowing that 70% of your troops will probably be buried in the metal boxes you put them in. |
| 21:26 | < mraichelson> | think twanks. :) |
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| 21:26 | < eatrepeat> | No think KRATE! |
| 21:27 | < Blorf> | Soren: You should post a thread! Atavism will reply with something excellent, I am sure. |
| 21:27 | < Soren> | Heh |
| 21:27 | < Red_Robot> | Krates? Who has summoned me? |
| 21:27 | < Mantisking> | Please, if you decide to go with anyone, go with the company that started it all -- Steven's Technology. |
| 21:27 | < eatrepeat> | yes! Poke the bear |
| 21:27 | < Soren> | Iāll just make sure itās in Errata |
| 21:28 | < Mantisking> | I'll have to update that blog post then. :-) |
| 21:29 | < mraichelson> | and now, i will make due on my threat and go ride my bike. hopefully before it starts raining again. |
| 21:29 | | * mraichelson salutes |
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| 21:30 | < Red_Robot_> | I'm a day late and a dollar short as usual, I see. |
| 21:30 | < Soren> | Eh, no big deal. |
| 21:30 | < Mantisking> | Nah, we're still going. |
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| 21:32 | < Red_Robot_> | I walked in on a Budget Frame Wars discussion I see. |
| 21:32 | < Mantisking> | It was bound to happen. |
| 21:32 | < eatrepeat> | Any silly ideas for systems? I recently decided my TEM company would get drones for SSR |
| 21:32 | < Mantisking> | I asked what builds by other people had blown people's minds. |
| 21:33 | < Blorf> | I'm equally excited whenever people post about Trundleball |
| 21:33 | < Mantisking> | I thought about doing something like a drone as an Artillery piece. |
| 21:33 | < Red_Robot_> | Even Pascal has gotten into the Twank Madness |
| 21:34 | < eatrepeat> | I like the flag mark on his twank |
| 21:34 | < Mantisking> | I wonder if it will go viral from there into the Lego community from there. |
| 21:34 | < Red_Robot_> | Trundleball is something I really want to play. It looks so fun. |
| 21:34 | < Red_Robot_> | It could...kinda like MaKs |
| 21:35 | < eatrepeat> | yeah, I think good old atavism might get internet famous... I hear its kinda like not being famous at all. |
| 21:35 | < Blorf> | I've got one game in already. There will be more. |
| 21:37 | < Red_Robot_> | As far as designs that have excited me, I'm still very much dwelling in the old school. I have marked very few projects off my list. |
| 21:38 | < Red_Robot_> | I still want to build some MGN-3XX series frames...some landscripts. |
| 21:38 | < Red_Robot_> | I keep getting distracted. |
| 21:39 | < Mantisking> | I've got an old school MGN tucked away somewhere. |
| 21:39 | < Mantisking> | I haven't built any Landmates or Landscripts yet. I really should. |
| 21:40 | < eatrepeat> | Oh man I have wanted to build MGN for so long and nothing... I know this "distract" you speak of |
| 21:41 | < Red_Robot_> | My TEM company was going to be my next project, and they were going to be Rumble Monkeys, MGNs and Orions. And then...life. And then my Ijad peeked their heads up. |
| 21:42 | < Blorf> | In my entire collection of built frames I have one I didn't design. Not that they aren't great, but I run into parts limitations super quickly. |
| 21:43 | < Mantisking> | Wow. I have tons of other designs. |
| 21:43 | < eatrepeat> | my latest distraction is this guy https://flic.kr/prQqcW6j who will be TEM with a few Razors because I have white hero factory pieces :) So MGN is still a drem... |
| 21:43 | < Blorf> | Until just recently most individual builds used more Travis bricks than I even had available to me. |
| 21:44 | < Mantisking> | Mainly because I was interested in comparing them all against each other. |
| 21:44 | < Mantisking> | Eat, that's a broken link. |
| 21:44 | < Red_Robot_> | That's part of the reason it takes me so long to finish a company. I'll do a proof-of-concept build, and then I have to gather parts in the right colors I want to use. |
| 21:44 | < Blorf> | The Chub I have built lacks as-designed legs for that reason |
| 21:45 | < Mantisking> | Even though I now have a box of Travis bricks, I tend to avoid them like the plague. |
| 21:46 | < Blorf> | I actually own about 35 gallons more LEGO than I have here, though. If I ever manage to buy a house I'll be able to get them out of storage. |
| 21:46 | < Mantisking> | One of the benefits of having a house. |
| 21:46 | < eatrepeat> | https://www.flickr.com/photos/116764458@N03/16956833837/ |
| 21:47 | < Blorf> | Just no place in a 900sqft condo with 5 people living in it |
| 21:48 | < Red_Robot_> | Storage space is a problem |
| 21:48 | < Soren> | Yeah, wee bit of a problem. |
| 21:48 | < eatrepeat> | I suck |
| 21:49 | < Soren> | Although sorting and stackable tubs can really improve your ability to pack stuff into a smaller sapce, you have to have room to unpack and sortt in the first place. |
| 21:49 | < Soren> | -t |
| 21:49 | < Mantisking> | And keeping the dining room table covered in Lego tends to annoy your spouse. |
| 21:49 | < Mantisking> | Or so I hear. |
| 21:51 | < Mantisking> | Man, tough room. :-) |
| 21:51 | < Red_Robot_> | Yeah...workspace is becoming my issue. My over all collection is becoming so big I have to gather bits from storage into a "work bin" now. |
| 21:52 | < Red_Robot_> | Tough room...must be full of spouses |
| 21:52 | < Soren> | Yeah Iāve been staring a reorganization in the face for a while now. Getting it going in bits and peices right now. |
| 21:52 | < Soren> | haha. |
| 21:52 | < eatrepeat> | Mine is time, I can never find the time. |
| 21:53 | < Mantisking> | I can understand that. |
| 21:53 | < Red_Robot_> | Time is always a constraint. Time is the fire in which we burn. |
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| 21:54 | < Mantisking> | Like Zeekhotep said earlier, all I want to spend weekends doing is being lazy. |
| 21:54 | < Mantisking> | Hey, john. |
| 21:54 | < Shades_Corvid> | 0.0 |
| 21:54 | < Shades_Corvid> | So many...people...*reaches out* |
| 21:54 | < Red_Robot_> | *waves* |
| 21:55 | < Shades_Corvid> | Hey Ray |
| 21:56 | < Mantisking> | Howdy. |
| 21:56 | < Shades_Corvid> | anything going on? |
| 21:56 | < eatrepeat> | Well in the state my collection is in, I am searching through bins used to store pieces used for certain companies. It is maddening. |
| 21:57 | < Mantisking> | Shades, we're all just grousing about the state or Lego collections are in and how we don't have enough time for anything. :-) |
| 21:57 | < Mantisking> | our* |
| 21:57 | < Red_Robot_> | I actually don't like my collection -too- regimented. Shuffling through the pieces is actully the part that relaxes me. |
| 21:58 | < Soren> | I find thereās a happy medium of that plus being able to find things quickly. |
| 21:58 | < Red_Robot_> | and it's how "happy accidents" happen. |
| 21:58 | < Blorf> | I found as many parts as I could that I have sets of 4 of before even trying to design the Razor, then worked with just one set until I got it where I liked. Then I knew I could build 4. |
| 21:58 | < Mantisking> | I find I experiment a lot when I dump sets out for sorting. |
| 21:58 | < Blorf> | Probably wouldn't work with a larger collection though. |
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| 21:59 | < CaseyP> | ugh, man they hate me being on here. |
| 21:59 | < Blorf> | but perhaps also less of a necessity |
| 21:59 | < Shades_Corvid> | So need to finish organizing but that isn't going to happen this week. Hope I find the time to at least build one more space ship so I have more then the Capital Standard to show at RavenCon. |
| 22:00 | < Red_Robot_> | What I really need is to find a better way to store my finished frames. |
| 22:00 | < Mantisking> | Red, me too. |
| 22:01 | < Soren> | Actually, that reminds me, I have some to unpack, still. |
| 22:01 | < Soren> | I should do that while weāre chatting. |
| 22:01 | < Shades_Corvid> | If they weren't so expansive the Inifinty Display Boxes might work well. |
| 22:02 | < Red_Robot_> | I need a fairly compact kit to transport...but I find that after awhile, part of the unpacking process involves putting frames back together. |
| 22:02 | < Shades_Corvid> | Even if you bag/pad them you will have too. |
| 22:02 | < Mantisking> | I wonder how well the Lego Minifig display boxes would work? |
| 22:03 | < Shades_Corvid> | I think they be too small. |
| 22:04 | < Mantisking> | I just looked at the one I have. You're right. |
| 22:04 | < Mantisking> | Unless you're building Twanks. |
| 22:04 | < Shades_Corvid> | http://creativeoptionscrafts.com/product.php?product=17#17 |
| 22:05 | < Red_Robot_> | I certainly build too big for them. Most of my frames have been filling the bounding box lately. |
| 22:05 | < Shades_Corvid> | http://creativeoptionscrafts.com/product.php?product=18#18 |
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| 22:05 | < Shades_Corvid> | One of those are my transport case. |
| 22:06 | < Shades_Corvid> | My frames so far fit in all the spaces with the scenery on top, just have to fold up the spiders |
| 22:07 | < Red_Robot_> | I have been considering something like that SC...but I am *cough* often too frugal. >_> |
| 22:07 | < eatrepeat> | I recently sent some to Nimbus A Conflict that I taped solid with painters tape. I think it worked. |
| 22:08 | < Shades_Corvid> | I feel you Red Bot, I picked up mine during Joanne's annual sale on storage cases, half off. |
| 22:08 | < Shades_Corvid> | happens every January. |
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| 22:09 | < Red_Robot_> | That's good hunting. |
| 22:11 | < Mantisking> | I think everyone's seen my travel kit. |
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| 22:11 | < FrostCollar> | Hello! It has been ages since I've used IRC. |
| 22:11 | < Red_Robot_> | It's a pretty good one MK. You get a lot of stuff in it. |
| 22:11 | < Mantisking> | Frosty finally made it. |
| 22:12 | < Mantisking> | Red, thanks. |
| 22:12 | < Red_Robot_> | *waves* |
| 22:12 | < Red_Robot_> | My problem is I'm toting around 4 or 5 companies |
| 22:12 | < FrostCollar> | Yeah, I live in NYC and I took a trip down to DC. The trip back up was delayed. |
| 22:12 | < FrostCollar> | How do you carry them all? |
| 22:12 | < FrostCollar> | The only thing I could use for that is my old 40k army case. |
| 22:13 | < FrostCollar> | That's a pretty goodly chunk of frames to lug around. |
| 22:13 | < Blorf> | Alright, I need to get some stuff done. See you all on the Hangar, and MK on Saturday. |
| 22:13 | < Red_Robot_> | I have a Sterlite bin and I have the frames packed in small groups in ziplock bgs with some bubblewrap layed in the bottom. |
| 22:13 | < Mantisking> | I think I've got five companies plus terrain in my kit. |
| 22:13 | < Mantisking> | Later Blorf. |
| 22:13 | < eatrepeat> | later Blorf |
| 22:14 | < Red_Robot_> | Take it easy Blorf. Nice meeting you. |
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| 22:14 | < FrostCollar_> | Hm, good idea. |
| 22:14 | < Shades_Corvid> | Why would you need that many companies? |
| 22:15 | < Red_Robot_> | I provide companies for my friends. |
| 22:15 | < Mantisking> | Makes sense to me. |
| 22:15 | < Red_Robot_> | They either don't have legos or have storage problems of their own. So I provide all the gear when we play. |
| 22:16 | < eatrepeat> | I too fund my some-timer friends. Only one other in town with an army. |
| 22:16 | < Red_Robot_> | I've got a buddy that basically does the same thing when we play Malifaux |
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| 22:17 | < Mantisking> | I gave a friend a squad for Christmas one year. |
| 22:18 | < eatrepeat> | I really want to find someone who will fund an X-wing game and play IO so I can dump mo... I mean build ships :) |
| 22:18 | < Soren> | haha. |
| 22:18 | < FrostCollar_> | A X-Wing video game, right? |
| 22:18 | < FrostCollar_> | There's a models game already - I play it. Pretty good. |
| 22:18 | < eatrepeat> | no the table top game |
| 22:19 | < Soren> | Actually ships might be cheaper in the long run. Theyāre closer to the parts spread Lego uses in sets. |
| 22:19 | < Mantisking> | Yeah. I find it real easy to build ships out of sets designed to make cars. |
| 22:20 | < FrostCollar_> | Really? |
| 22:20 | < Red_Robot_> | I haven't even started building my ships yet. But I am already anticipating the storage issues that's going to create. |
| 22:20 | < FrostCollar_> | I don't even have the parts. I've got four companies already and my meagre stash is running low. |
| 22:20 | < FrostCollar_> | So ships will have to wait for a few bricklink orders. |
| 22:20 | < Soren> | the $20 Creator sets plus a judicious selection of bits and pieces would probably be enough to get started. |
| 22:21 | < FrostCollar_> | Noted, |
| 22:22 | < Mantisking> | Two Mega Bloks Hot Wheels Dragster sets will get you these. http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=5659 |
| 22:22 | < Soren> | http://www.lego.com/en-us/creator/products/3in1models/31034-future-flyers A kit like this would be ideal. |
| 22:23 | < Soren> | http://www.lego.com/en-us/creator/products/3in1models/31023 Or this one. |
| 22:23 | < eatrepeat> | Thats the beauty of it. Lego is very affordable in the grand scheme. I buy candy for more pennies a piece. |
| 22:23 | < FrostCollar_> | Megablox? http://i.imgur.com/g7c2Z4h.png |
| 22:23 | < FrostCollar_> | Still, good tip. |
| 22:24 | < FrostCollar_> | Back in the day though, many years ago, I never really liked Megablox. The pieces just didn't fit together very well compared to Lego standards. |
| 22:24 | < eatrepeat> | Hey my recent mega bloks build were got amy first comment from Josh :) |
| 22:24 | < FrostCollar_> | but that was a long time ago. |
| 22:24 | < Shades_Corvid> | *slaps the heresy away* no one got time for that. |
| 22:24 | < Mantisking> | Yeah, I tend to be more open about "alternative building blocks" than most people. |
| 22:24 | < Soren> | The tolerances on them are still pretty bad, but as long as youāre not using them for basic bricks, they will work okay. |
| 22:24 | < Shades_Corvid> | There is a good chance Mega Blok is what you will be seeing at PAX East 2016... |
| 22:24 | < eatrepeat> | Oh but kreo is slick |
| 22:25 | < eatrepeat> | It works with good grip and has fun decoration pieces too |
| 22:25 | < Soren> | Yeah, ās what I hear. |
| 22:25 | < Mantisking> | Kre-O is cool, but I think it may be dead in the U.S. |
| 22:26 | < eatrepeat> | do I hear soon to be discounted? |
| 22:26 | < Soren> | Honestly, I stick to Lego mostly because of Bricklink. Knowing I can get more of X piece in Y color with a couple clicks is the deciding factor for me. |
| 22:26 | < Mantisking> | Everybody but TRU seems to have stopped carrying it and they don't have any of the new 2015 sets yet. |
| 22:26 | < Mantisking> | There have been many *massive* sales on Kre-O through TRU. |
| 22:27 | < Mantisking> | They've had at least two "buy one get one free" Kre-O sales. |
| 22:27 | < eatrepeat> | Man I got these despicable me sets with elastic eyes and, well reddit has it. Very silly. |
| 22:27 | < Mantisking> | I've been eyeballing those sets myself. |
| 22:28 | < eatrepeat> | the chemistry set and the dj set were best for useful decorations. Not worth the high price but I'm a sucker. |
| 22:31 | < Mantisking> | I'm waiting for them to go on sale. |
| 22:32 | < FrostCollar_> | Fair point. |
| 22:32 | < Soren> | Oh, speaking of sales, if anybody isnāt following http://toysnbricks.com/ for sale news, you should get on that. |
| 22:32 | < Soren> | Never pay MSRP for a set again. |
| 22:32 | < eatrepeat> | Alkl in all I am for the Lego brand most. I can enjoy the range given by looking outside of that but it limits the use in out community. I often use the beads that kids melt into a design (hamma beads?) but I try to remember it's not easy on others. |
| 22:34 | < eatrepeat> | Soren I do try but I work overtime with no notice often enough and end up not building for too long to always find sale. Bricklink actually is better for me. |
| 22:34 | < Soren> | Fair enough. |
| 22:35 | < Soren> | I tend to check it when I feel like grabbing something new and want to see whatās on sale. |
| 22:35 | < eatrepeat> | All the shitty sets I bought are being hacked up into these HaardMount frames I got. Minifig legs are fun limbs lol cheap fun! |
| 22:37 | < Shades_Corvid> | brb dinner |
| 22:37 | | * Shades_Corvid Shades_Corvid_afk |
| 22:37 | < Red_Robot_> | Well, I need to run some errands I've been putting off. I'm sorry I didn't remember about the meet and greet sooner. |
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| 22:37 | < Red_Robot_> | Nice meeting you all. Hope you have a good evening. |
| 22:37 | < Dukayn> | Woop woop woop |
| 22:37 | < FrostCollar_> | See yoU! |
| 22:38 | < FrostCollar_> | *you |
| 22:38 | < Red_Robot_> | *waves to Dukayn* |
| 22:38 | < eatrepeat> | Have fun Red |
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| 22:38 | < Dukayn> | Welp, back in 10. Just wanted to poke my head in. Need a shower :P |
| 22:39 | < eatrepeat> | uh, dinner and brb? we can do that? |
| 22:39 | < eatrepeat> | BRB |
| 22:44 | < Mantisking> | Soren, funny you mention Toys'N'Bricks, I'm the top poster on the forums there. |
| 22:46 | < Soren> | Yeah, I noticed ;) |
| 22:46 | < Mantisking> | Heh. |
| 22:48 | < FrostCollar_> | Well, then we know the suggestions are good! |
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| 22:52 | < zeekhotep> | back |
| 22:52 | < zeekhotep> | what did I mess? |
| 22:52 | < zeekhotep> | miss |
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| 22:54 | < zeekhotep_> | that was weird |
| 22:56 | < Mantisking> | You missed a wide range of conversational gambits. |
| 22:56 | < Mantisking> | :-) |
| 22:56 | < zeekhotep_> | dang! |
| 22:56 | < Mantisking> | I think a lot of people are going to be jealous tomorrow when they check the logs. |
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| 22:57 | < zeekhotep_> | there I go again |
| 22:57 | < Mantisking> | On your own? |
| 22:57 | < Soren> | Attempts were made to get a running conversation going. |
| 22:58 | < Soren> | But mostly, itās puttering along sedately, so you missed not much at all. |
| 22:58 | < Mantisking> | It's been going in fits and starts, like most conversations. |
| 22:58 | < FrostCollar_> | And I got here late, so I missed a lot. |
| 23:00 | < zeekhotep_> | Ok then I don't feel so bad |
| 23:02 | < FrostCollar_> | But quick, you need to make up for lost time! What are your opinions on robot fights? |
| 23:02 | < Soren> | Childish delight. |
| 23:03 | < Shades_Corvid> | and back |
| 23:03 | < zeekhotep_> | I think it is a deplorable pastime and horribly explotative! |
| 23:03 | < FrostCollar_> | One of the friends that I've got to play MF0 actually calls it "stompy stompy pew pew" informally |
| 23:04 | < Soren> | Thatās an excellent summation of it. |
| 23:04 | < Shades_Corvid> | not sure how it be explotative? |
| 23:04 | < zeekhotep_> | stomp stomp pew pew rolls off the tong better |
| 23:04 | < Mantisking> | Works for me. |
| 23:05 | < zeekhotep_> | Anyone read my "Endless Hallway" story? |
| 23:05 | < FrostCollar_> | I'll note that down too. |
| 23:06 | < FrostCollar_> | And I haven't. Is it up on the hangar? |
| 23:06 | < zeekhotep_> | yes |
| 23:07 | < Mantisking> | I skimmed it. |
| 23:07 | < Mantisking> | Nice to see the fiction section on the Hangar getting more popular. |
| 23:08 | < zeekhotep_> | I was trying to create an opposition faction big enough to pose a real threat to the union, but I think it ended up being too strong. |
| 23:10 | < FrostCollar_> | I'm reading it, but does a faction really need to be big enough to pose a threat? The Union is a patchwork quilt at best |
| 23:10 | < FrostCollar_> | It's certainly more organized than the free colonies, but it's still a mess of competing planetary rivalries and organizational issues |
| 23:11 | < FrostCollar_> | So I don't really think you'd need a massive force to threaten their order because of that, just something that would destabilize it more |
| 23:11 | < Shades_Corvid> | In my book if you are not the SU or the Ijad, you are pretty much a Free Colony. Just my thought process. |
| 23:11 | < Soren> | It might be better to say, itās very powerfuland very centralized but has nothing approximating coherent policy. |
| 23:11 | < zeekhotep_> | No it does not need to be but I was looking for a huge and ominous feel, I think I got that part. |
| 23:11 | < FrostCollar_> | That's true, but even in the Sol system you've got four different power blocs, let alone beyond it! And that's if you don't count the TTA. |
| 23:11 | < Shades_Corvid> | I think it depends are you talking SU as the Sol System it self or a local area of Transit Gates. |
| 23:12 | < Soren> | The two are kind of one and the same. Most of the human race still lives in our solar system. |
| 23:12 | < zeekhotep_> | The Sol system is still the largest concentration of humanity by far. |
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| 23:13 | < zeekhotep_> | Soren beat me to it. |
| 23:14 | < zeekhotep_> | Spoiler the TTA is the new power faction in the story. |
| 23:14 | < Shades_Corvid> | Yeah, but unless you think you can put a fleet in Sol that can stand the local army, I don't think you are a looming threat..unless you start taking over Transit Gate after Transit Gate outside of the Sol System. |
| 23:15 | < Soren> | (Now is probably the time to say, I regret that I donāt really poke my head in there because I donāt know where weāre taking things next and I want to avoid legal issues.) |
| 23:15 | < zeekhotep_> | understood |
| 23:16 | < Soren> | Even if you started taking over gate after gate, even odds are youād eventually get the Sol Systemās main fleets up and angry at you, and at that point youāre talking about gargantuan industrial potential. |
| 23:16 | < Soren> | They could probably replace ships faster than they lost them. |
| 23:16 | < zeekhotep_> | I already told Joshua that anything I ever came up with was his for the taking....no strings |
| 23:17 | < Dukayn> | Wow,this place exploded. I'm off to take the kids to school, back in a bit. |
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| 23:18 | < zeekhotep_> | Still reading FrostCollar ? |
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| 23:19 | < FrostCollar_> | Yep. I'm not that keen on the hallway idea for the same reason that there was a discussion about whether FTL ships less expensive than gates could exist in the setting. |
| 23:19 | < FrostCollar_> | I can't find the thread but it's around there somewhere |
| 23:20 | < Shades_Corvid> | Of course, you basically just asking yourself for trouble. Though I always wondered about the whole, 'always accepting in coming gating'. Do they know where it is coming from/who it is? My main company is suppose to be Transit Marines but they are in Chubs, the idea being they lost there Transit Gate because they didn't realize the incoming was an enemy fleet prepared to 'board' the station. |
| 23:20 | < eatrepeat> | I love the hallway conspiracy :) |
| 23:20 | < FrostCollar_> | Point is: this tech would be powerful enough that it would make most other concerns irrelevant |
| 23:20 | < Soren> | I think to the degree weāve even thought about it, you can tell what the mass of the incoming is but nothing else. |
| 23:22 | < zeekhotep_> | I thought it struck a ballance, because most of the gate network is in systems that harbor local populations. That puts each gate section at local risk. |
| 23:22 | < Soren> | I do think, eventually, that the Transit Gate system will be superseded by compact versions that fit on ships but itās not likely to happen within the setting as it stands right now. |
| 23:22 | < eatrepeat> | The whole idea of the worm hole is that it is fast right, to fast to accept or decline I would say. |
| 23:22 | < Soren> | Couple centuries of research later, maybe. |
| 23:23 | < FrostCollar_> | Yep, and I like the balance that strikes! |
| 23:23 | < FrostCollar_> | The main issue I see with the hallway is that it sorta makes frames seem irrelevant |
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| 23:23 | < FrostCollar_> | They're used by every faction because they're so versatile and are present on really every world! |
| 23:23 | < Shades_Corvid> | The fluff pretty much states they have the option, they just don't do it because it could be MONTHS another Transit can happen. |
| 23:23 | < FrostCollar_> | But with such easy transit options why bother when you could drop 1,000 armored cars in any individual system? |
| 23:24 | < eatrepeat> | But that marine could have inflated some aspects of his observations ;) |
| 23:24 | < Soren> | Yeah, thereās no fast power-on/power-off option. Thatās one of the things theyād have to solve to fit it into a ship. |
| 23:25 | < Shades_Corvid> | Plus the whole miss/might not make it percentage you have when not going to another gate... |
| 23:25 | < Soren> | Right now, thereās nothing actually stopping someone from building a ship around a small gate. But it would be very large, very fragile, and you wouldnāt be able to arm or armor it, and it would be so expensive that losing it would bankrupt you. |
| 23:25 | < zeekhotep_> | The frames are still used by the TTA because they are still striving to "Keep the Secret." |
| 23:26 | < FrostCollar_> | Soren, so that ship would basically be a galactic beach-ball? A pretty large and thin frame that surrounds the gate? |
| 23:26 | < Soren> | It would be a little bit like building a nuclear-powered cruise liner. |
| 23:26 | < FrostCollar_> | That sounds like an accident waiting to happen! |
| 23:26 | < Shades_Corvid> | Caribbean Cruises of the Stars! |
| 23:27 | < Soren> | Very cool, but incredibly expensive, marginally beneficial, and dangerous as hell. |
| 23:27 | < zeekhotep_> | yeah I wouldn't wanna be on the first voyage of that ship. |
| 23:28 | < Shades_Corvid> | So you know that 10% margin of failure... |
| 23:28 | < Soren> | If I were to sketch out a future history of that universe, Iād say the gates get cheaper and more efficient, and eventually more compact, and then one day someone says āHmm, you could build one of these into a decent-sized spacecraftā, and then things change very rapidly indeed. |
| 23:29 | < Mantisking> | MFZ + 200 years. |
| 23:29 | < Soren> | or + 400. The timescale on that would be quite long. |
| 23:30 | < FrostCollar_> | Mobile Frame 1000! |
| 23:30 | < Shades_Corvid> | I think you still need something like a beacon device to lower the failure/miss rate which could be the old transit gates themselves... |
| 23:30 | < Soren> | And weād still be talking big, fragile transport ships for a while |
| 23:30 | < FrostCollar_> | And yeah, for the endless hallway: in general I think your instincts are right in that the TTA's ability here seems too powerful, but overall it's still a neat idea! |
| 23:30 | < zeekhotep_> | What is hilarious, is how NASA is playing with the math for a warp drive right now. |
| 23:31 | < Mantisking> | Well, that would shake things up a little. |
| 23:31 | < Shades_Corvid> | Playing with the math and actual application is not the same. |
| 23:31 | < Soren> | Theyāll be playing with it for a while. The energy requirements on that thing are insane. |
| 23:31 | < Shades_Corvid> | Yes, but they are now saying it is doable. |
| 23:31 | < FrostCollar_> | Are you sure? Last I checked it seemed a lot of that stuff wasn't doable. |
| 23:31 | < Soren> | Well, theoretically possible if the physics model holds up. Lotta ifs. |
| 23:32 | < Soren> | ādoableā implies some engineering, and a power source. |
| 23:33 | < FrostCollar_> | And a proof-of-concept |
| 23:33 | < Soren> | Iād be pleasantly surprised if they even make progress on the math in my lifetime. |
| 23:34 | < Mantisking> | AFK. |
| 23:34 | < Shades_Corvid> | Well my impression was a few years ago they were 'no, completely sci-fi' and now they are 'maybe, just not for a LONG Time *goes to the drawing board*' |
| 23:34 | < Shades_Corvid> | but it sort of NASA's job to go to the drawing board about such things. |
| 23:35 | < FrostCollar_> | Of course |
| 23:35 | < Soren> | Well, yeah. Dicking around with stuff like that is their mandate. |
| 23:36 | < DJ> | https://www.nasa.gov/centers/glenn/technology/warp/warpstat_prt.htm |
| 23:36 | < eatrepeat> | Just like it is the populace right to inquire into the hallway conspiracy. Freedom of speach! We will not be in the dark! |
| 23:36 | < DJ> | For people who want info about warp drives and Nasa |
| 23:36 | < Soren> | But itās going to be dicking around. Even if it yields results, the results are likely to be ādoesnāt work, not practical even if it theoretically could work, turns out not to be physically possibleā or something else disappointing. |
| 23:37 | < Shades_Corvid> | Very true |
| 23:39 | < Shades_Corvid> | but it they only way we might get Transit Gates... |
| 23:39 | < Shades_Corvid> | IRL |
| 23:40 | < Soren> | Iām pretty sure FTL travel is such a gross violation of known physics that it will never be possible. But itās fun to think about. |
| 23:41 | < zeekhotep_> | That is the best part of speculative science fiction. Looking back and seeing how far short of the reality the big drams were. just look at the star trek comunicators and cell phones. |
| 23:46 | < Mantisking> | Valid point. |
| 23:47 | < Shades_Corvid> | After the convention I will start working on the vids. |
| 23:47 | < Shades_Corvid> | RavenCon, not PAX East, FYI. |
| 23:48 | < Mantisking> | that would be a long time to wait. |
| 23:48 | < Shades_Corvid> | Need to think of a name for this 'Scientist' Prosona and the assist that will be yelled at off screen. |
| 23:48 | < Shades_Corvid> | It would, which why RavenCon which is this weekend. |
| 23:49 | < Shades_Corvid> | "STOP WELDING GOGGLES ON THE FRAMES! What is this 'steam punk' you keep referring too...nevermind, I don't even care." |
| 23:52 | < zeekhotep_> | What is that on you're frame? A smoke stack? |
| 23:53 | < FrostCollar_> | Brass, copper, and wood are not effective frame-construction materials! |
| 23:53 | < zeekhotep_> | on low metal worlds they sure are! |
| 23:53 | < FrostCollar_> | Actually, that reminds me |
| 23:53 | < Shades_Corvid> | dammit, forgot about the part of the line 'they don't even do anything' about the goggles. all well. In theory, you could have steam powered muscle cylinders. |
| 23:53 | < FrostCollar_> | What's all your take on the budget frame war? |
| 23:53 | < FrostCollar_> | Though, I haven't seen any wooden designs yet, one might belong there. |
| 23:54 | < Shades_Corvid> | budget frame war? |
| 23:55 | < zeekhotep_> | I got a kick out of it! lots of fun. I would love to see a photo based battle report with all sides using the different low cost frames. |
| 23:55 | < FrostCollar_> | Corvid, take a look here: http://www.mobileframehangar.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=6073 |
| 23:56 | < FrostCollar_> | First Avatism made Twanks, and it was all downhill from there. I even threw in a design - making budget frames that are intentionally kind of crude looking is a lot of fun. |
| 23:56 | < Shades_Corvid> | I thought the twanks was a scale thing... |
| 23:58 | < FrostCollar_> | A scale thing? What do you mean? |
| 23:59 | < Shades_Corvid> | I see, I have seen pictures of them posted on the Facebook thing. I thought they were frames meant for 4p Scale instead of the 'standard' 7p. |
| 23:59 | < FrostCollar_> | I've made a Twank myself for the shelf - they aren't that small compared to a chub. |
| 23:59 | < Mantisking> | They are kind of a scale thing. At least mine are. |
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