| --- Log opened Mon Jul 14 00:00:31 2014 |
| 00:57 | < Shades_Corvid> | New Review Posted! |
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| 05:51 | < MittenNinja> | sup rex, locas, flak |
| 05:51 | < locas> | heyo |
| 05:52 | < MittenNinja> | so im planning on doing some of your hop devils in dark purple. |
| 05:52 | < MittenNinja> | ive been wanting to do a full company in that color for quite awhile |
| 05:52 | < MittenNinja> | and i just realized i can totally make them |
| 05:52 | < locas> | oh shit nice |
| 05:53 | < locas> | great color |
| 05:53 | < MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 05:53 | < MittenNinja> | i think the only thing i wouldnt be able to do in purple would be the hands |
| 05:53 | < MittenNinja> | no biggy |
| 05:54 | < locas> | plenty of background colors to choose from |
| 05:54 | < MittenNinja> | exactly |
| 05:54 | < locas> | I think I lean toward light bley but I don't have much dark purple so I can't be sure |
| 05:54 | < MittenNinja> | im thinking dark bley |
| 05:54 | < locas> | also a good choice |
| 05:55 | < locas> | anything but black really |
| 05:59 | < MittenNinja> | yeah |
| 06:00 | < MittenNinja> | you been building anything lately? |
| 06:01 | < locas> | not at all *_* |
| 06:01 | < locas> | mostly playin guitar and boardgames |
| 06:01 | < MittenNinja> | what boardgames? |
| 06:02 | < locas> | lots of stuff |
| 06:03 | < locas> | lots of hanabi |
| 06:03 | < locas> | lots of shadow hunters |
| 06:03 | < locas> | been a while since I've played much heavier stuff but for a while I was playing terra mystica |
| 06:03 | < MittenNinja> | im not familiar with that one |
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| 09:07 | < Rex> | I wish I had friends that wanted to play board games. |
| 09:09 | < locas> | we used to drive like an hour and a half to play them |
| 09:09 | < locas> | we FINALLY found a local group |
| 09:09 | < locas> | at a bookstore |
| 09:10 | < locas> | I hang out in #boardgames on freenode a lot |
| 09:12 | < Rex> | At a book store? Hm |
| 09:54 | < locas> | welp, I've started downloading fma again |
| 09:54 | < locas> | gonna show it to my partner if he'll watch it |
| 09:54 | < locas> | are you watching it subbed or dubbed? |
| 10:17 | < Rex> | Me? |
| 10:17 | < Rex> | Oh, read that wrong. |
| 10:18 | < Rex> | Subbed |
| 10:18 | < locas> | I offered to play it dubbed for him so he didn't have to read it all |
| 10:18 | < locas> | but the dub was TERRIBL |
| 10:18 | < locas> | +E |
| 10:18 | < locas> | we switched like five minutes in |
| 10:18 | < Rex> | The only anime I actually like dubbed is Outlaw Star. |
| 10:19 | < Rex> | Most dubs are bad because they don't get good voice actors or the people directing them is bad. |
| 10:19 | < Rex> | Or something like that. |
| 10:20 | < Rex> | Maybe it's just me, but the voice needs to match the visuals of the character. |
| 10:20 | < locas> | I never watch dubs |
| 10:20 | < locas> | and broadly agree |
| 10:20 | < locas> | I just thought he might be more into it if he didn't have to always be looking at the screen |
| 10:21 | < Rex> | Word, word. Subs are an entry barrier, especially for those that are new to it or not too interested. |
| 10:22 | < Rex> | It takes some effort to train your eyes to read words AND pay attention to what's happening above it. |
| 10:24 | < Rex> | I really need to find a serious anime. |
| 10:57 | < locas> | like what kind of serious |
| 11:01 | < Rex> | Well |
| 11:02 | < Rex> | Something without the jarring wrench throws and wild comedic outbursts that I guess pass as some sort of Three Stooges comedy in Japan. |
| 11:03 | < Rex> | I'm pretty cool with it, but it's in everything that I'm currently watching. |
| 11:03 | < Rex> | So it's getting a bit old. |
| 11:03 | < locas> | mobile suit gundam :P |
| 11:04 | < Rex> | Eh... |
| 11:06 | < Rex> | But where to start? |
| 11:06 | < locas> | mobile suit gundam is a self contained thing |
| 11:07 | < locas> | as I said before I'd watch the movie recuts instead of the series |
| 11:07 | < locas> | it is quite 80's, though |
| 11:07 | < locas> | early 80's |
| 11:07 | < locas> | but very little slapstick |
| 11:08 | < locas> | http://bakabt.me/147818-kidou-senshi-gundam-mobile-suit-gundam-movies-1-3-eg.htm l |
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| 11:15 | < locas> | I scared him off :| |
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| 11:18 | < Rex> | I really feel like nothing's exciting right now. |
| 11:18 | < locas> | set off a few bombs |
| 11:19 | < locas> | that oughta spice things up |
| 11:19 | < Rex> | That sounds a bit dangerous. |
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| 17:15 | < Mantisking> | Hello? |
| 17:16 | < Rex> | Yo |
| 17:18 | < Rex> | How's it going? |
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| 17:37 | < mraichelson> | it would be comical if it wasnāt so sad. |
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| 17:44 | < Ced23Ric> | Oh hai. |
| 17:47 | | * mraichelson tips his cap |
| 17:48 | < mraichelson> | okay, clearly we all need to be using the MFZ rules to play at minifig scale in a fantasy/steampunk setting. http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/c0/46/d7/c046d713b4365e0290147bfab44151e2 .jpg |
| 17:51 | < FlakManiak> | Okay, okay, okay. That is too sick. I'm in. |
| 17:51 | < FlakManiak> | Anything with dwarves. |
| 17:51 | < FlakManiak> | I guess I'd probably be orcs instead but seriously, orcs and dwarves. Fuck yeah. |
| 17:51 | | * mraichelson nods and takes notes |
| 17:52 | < mraichelson> | (tracked it down on flickr too: https://www.flickr.com/photos/38792820@N05/7209618296) |
| 17:53 | < FlakManiak> | Any fantasy-with-mecha, thanks. (<3 Escaflowne) |
| 17:58 | < FlakManiak> | Hmm. Couldn't quite tell how the thumbs attached, but I think I've figured it out. They're those 1x2 technic thin liftarms. |
| 18:02 | < FlakManiak> | Well that Pate-keetongu guy has +1 follower. |
| 18:02 | < FlakManiak> | (Or more likely +4 now?) |
| 18:03 | < FlakManiak> | And I'm pretty miserly with my follows. |
| 18:08 | < FlakManiak> | Poked around and found this: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/14597610846/in/pool-brickoftheday |
| 18:08 | < mraichelson> | nice |
| 18:15 | < FlakManiak> | So this mech is pretty crazy: https://www.flickr.com/photos/66559971@N04/14372135844/in/pool-brickoftheday |
| 18:15 | < FlakManiak> | Not a mech, but: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7kyubi7/14159883357/in/pool-brickoftheday/ |
| 18:16 | < FlakManiak> | That's a lotta Mixels: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7kyubi7/14298782984/in/pool-brickoftheday/ |
| 18:17 | < mraichelson> | i still donāt find much use for those joints. :\ |
| 18:20 | < FlakManiak> | Richter is calling, and he wants his mech back: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7kyubi7/14259842832/in/pool-brickoftheday/ |
| 18:21 | < FlakManiak> | Yeah I was hype the first time I saw them but then some days/weeks later on reflection I realized they probably wouldn't work for the things I was building, so I put them out of my mind. |
| 18:22 | < FlakManiak> | The greebling on this is unreal: https://www.flickr.com/photos/7kyubi7/13999774208/in/pool-brickoftheday/ |
| 18:23 | < FlakManiak> | And finally, I'll stop, but this thing is really cool too: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77023397@N05/14005333070/in/pool-brickoftheday/ |
| 18:53 | < mraichelson> | jebus, that garc |
| 18:53 | < mraichelson> | āiāll use some bike frames and metal detectors and crowbars" |
| 18:53 | < mraichelson> | yeesh |
| 18:54 | < mraichelson> | really curious where some of them get all the stickers they plaster over everything too. |
| 18:54 | < FlakManiak> | Probably a lot are custom. |
| 18:54 | < FlakManiak> | One can buy sticker paper to print on. |
| 18:55 | < mraichelson> | yeah, if i was making my own heineken and mobil wouldnāt be the kind of things iād shoot for. ;) |
| 18:55 | < Rex> | Sticker paper? Truly we live in an age of wonder. |
| 18:58 | | * mraichelson did not spend his morning comparing photos of different colored dice using a color blindness emulation tool |
| 18:58 | < FlakManiak> | Oh? Well maybe you should have, then, if you're gonna be demoing to/playing with colorblind people! |
| 18:58 | < FlakManiak> | (What were your results?) |
| 18:59 | < mraichelson> | http://imgur.com/a/raCnv |
| 18:59 | < mraichelson> | āget some crazy marbled colored ones, people can at least tell them apart" |
| 18:59 | < FlakManiak> | I was the opposite of that when I got dice; didn't think about color-blindness at all, and got the Chessex transparent teal rather than transparent blue, because I loved the color, even though it was a lot closer to the transparent green. |
| 19:00 | < FlakManiak> | I basically went with aesthetic preference over any practical concerns. |
| 19:00 | < mraichelson> | yeah, all mine are the flat/opaque/basically-the-same-as-standard-lego colors. |
| 19:01 | < mraichelson> | read thread on the hangar and was like, āoh, well, poop" |
| 19:02 | < FlakManiak> | So wait, which of photos 2, 3 and 4 is which type of colorblindness? |
| 19:03 | < mraichelson> | but the āvortexā and āgeminiā ones were able to tell apart pretty well. |
| 19:03 | < mraichelson> | i think 2 is the ā5% of guysā |
| 19:03 | < mraichelson> | then progress farther down becoming less common. |
| 19:05 | < mraichelson> | deuteranopia, protanopia, tritanopia |
| 19:05 | < Rex> | I hate to sound insensitive, but I don't really see how this is too big of a problem. |
| 19:07 | < mraichelson> | until you end up with a handful of different dice you canāt tell apart itās not. :) |
| 19:07 | < Rex> | Well... |
| 19:08 | < mraichelson> | but yeah, edge case scenario. |
| 19:08 | < Rex> | I really don't want to sound like an ass. |
| 19:08 | < Rex> | But I mean. |
| 19:09 | < Rex> | If I were color blind I would buy dice I could distinguish easily like a clear and swirly one. |
| 19:09 | < Rex> | But if it's someone else, if they can't take everyone's word at the table which color is which then why would it be my problem? |
| 19:09 | < mraichelson> | yep, and thatās waht i was trying to sort out. |
| 19:09 | < mraichelson> | since people keep asking about dice. |
| 19:10 | < FlakManiak> | It's about being able to tell at a glance/knowing when they roll themselves. |
| 19:10 | < Rex> | Unless it's a demo like you said, I guess. |
| 19:11 | < FlakManiak> | Having to ask someone else which die is which out of the dice one just rolled is just not acceptable. I can't imagine coming back if I had to be that guy. |
| 19:11 | < Rex> | You could just take a sharpie to your current ones and put a little "y" or whatever on the corner. |
| 19:12 | < Rex> | And then you can remove it with rubbing alcohol later or something. Silver comes off pretty easily with a product or whatever imo. |
| 19:14 | < Rex> | Well, I would imagine people would be okay with you rolling each die separately if it came to it and there was no way to fix it if it came right down to it. |
| 19:14 | < Rex> | Just don't take your sweet time. |
| 19:16 | < mraichelson> | yeah. added a real-world pic through the filters that maybe shows things a little better. |
| 19:17 | < Rex> | I'm wondering what color schemes a colorblind person would come up with. |
| 19:17 | < mraichelson> | i havenāt had it be a problem, but for an āitās an edge caseā¦but thereās multiple on the hangarā it was at least worth thinking about. |
| 19:18 | < Rex> | Fair enough. |
| 19:18 | < Rex> | It never hurt anyone to be prepared. |
| 19:18 | < mraichelson> | (and it was more interesting than real stuff i need to get done) |
| 19:18 | < mraichelson> | but like this one: http://i.imgur.com/u6uwv9X.png |
| 19:19 | < mraichelson> | trying to pick the move and offense dice |
| 19:19 | < mraichelson> | i can see where it would be a pain. |
| 19:21 | < Rex> | Bleh, it feels like all I can do is copy other people right now. |
| 19:22 | < Rex> | I guess my knight frames aren't making any progress today. |
| 19:36 | < FlakManiak> | So the two shades of grey look a bit close, but overall it doesn't seem too bad. Much less ambiguous than a some of the ones in your previous example. |
| 19:36 | < FlakManiak> | So that seems to be close to a solution. |
| 19:36 | < FlakManiak> | Anyway Rex, if all you can do is copy people, copy people. My Dragon Tyrant came about from copying gatlinggouf. |
| 19:37 | | * mraichelson takes notes |
| 19:37 | < mraichelson> | and, IMO: you can never go wrong stealing from yates. |
| 19:37 | < FlakManiak> | (And the blue dragons before it from repeating my own designs and hoping to make something as good as the Tyrant Paladin) |
| 19:37 | < FlakManiak> | Yeah just copy whoever your favorite builder is. |
| 19:37 | < FlakManiak> | Steal their techniques and the cores of their chassis. |
| 19:38 | < Rex> | I dunno, I'm happy with them as they are now, I guess. |
| 19:38 | < FlakManiak> | Oh, then just do what you're doing. |
| 19:38 | < Rex> | I just don't like the heads, they don't make a piece that looks good on top to me. |
| 19:39 | < Rex> | I have many favorite builders though. |
| 19:39 | < Ced23Ric> | And bac. |
| 19:39 | < Rex> | Copying all of them sounds like an awful lot of work... |
| 19:39 | < Ced23Ric> | I copy elements. Or advance on them. |
| 19:40 | < Ced23Ric> | Yesterday, we had our first regularly scheduled meeting at the CBase. |
| 19:40 | < Ced23Ric> | First thing: We had to rename it from MFZ to "Workshop for Rules Development for MFZ". :D |
| 19:40 | < Ced23Ric> | The Berlin department of licenses wanted to accuse the cbase of hosting gambling. ;) |
| 19:40 | < mraichelson> | lol |
| 19:41 | < Ced23Ric> | Had 5 people in attendance, so I made the four of them play a 4 player game. |
| 19:41 | < Ced23Ric> | 4, 5, 5 and 6 frames. |
| 19:41 | < Ced23Ric> | 2 stations each. |
| 19:41 | < Rex> | Gambling how? |
| 19:41 | < mraichelson> | āclearly itās gambling, youāre just swapping lego instead of money!" |
| 19:41 | < Ced23Ric> | Too them from 4pm to 9pm, but they had a blast. |
| 19:41 | < Ced23Ric> | Went 4 rounds, and the defender won on 28 points. |
| 19:41 | < Ced23Ric> | He only lost one frame, and that frame bound fire for almost 2 rounds. |
| 19:42 | < mraichelson> | it took them 5 hours to play a 4 round game? |
| 19:42 | < Ced23Ric> | Yupp. |
| 19:42 | < mraichelson> | wow |
| 19:42 | < Ced23Ric> | They are beginners, Mike. That's like their third game. |
| 19:42 | < Ced23Ric> | And I barely guided anymore. Wanted them to solve their games by themselves. |
| 19:42 | < mraichelson> | no, makes sense. iāve only ever gotten to really play once. so once thereās more than two people iāve got no frame of reference. |
| 19:43 | < Ced23Ric> | One attacker deliberately dropped from 30 to 20 out of the gate. |
| 19:43 | < Ced23Ric> | Stayed behind with his 5 ppa, and in round three, double captured to 30. |
| 19:43 | < Ced23Ric> | Which put him ahead of everyone. |
| 19:43 | < mraichelson> | sneaky |
| 19:43 | < Ced23Ric> | So the trailing attackers shelled him, knockinh him down a frame in round 4, dropping him to 25. |
| 19:43 | < Ced23Ric> | And that's why the attacker won with 28. |
| 19:44 | < Ced23Ric> | The other 5ppa attacker got reduced to 15 points. One frame, 2 stations. |
| 19:44 | < Ced23Ric> | And the point attacker lost one frame, but gained two station. |
| 19:44 | < Ced23Ric> | I think. :D |
| 19:44 | < Ced23Ric> | It was funny. |
| 19:44 | < Ced23Ric> | The attackers all fucked each other up and the defender just hunkered down. |
| 19:44 | < Ced23Ric> | Two stations close to each other, and 4 pieces of cover. |
| 19:45 | < Ced23Ric> | One frame down to 1 hit point, one was kill, two pieces of cover shredded, but he made it with his assets into the last round. |
| 19:45 | < Ced23Ric> | They ticked too fast, but that's funny. |
| 19:45 | < Ced23Ric> | One more round and the point attacker would have had it. |
| 19:46 | < Ced23Ric> | But he was too eager and underestimated his 3ppa workload. |
| 19:46 | < Ced23Ric> | Meanwhile, I stickered my new Scramblers - what I had, that is. Took me about 3 hours to get them to the point I wanted them. |
| 19:46 | < Ced23Ric> | Parts should arrive this week, then the company pics will go on the forums. |
| 19:47 | | * mraichelson waits |
| 19:47 | < Ced23Ric> | 2x Arty, 1x Arty/Direct, 2x Soldier, 1x Captain 1x melee. |
| 19:47 | < mraichelson> | what did you end up going with for melee? |
| 19:48 | < Ced23Ric> | Basically, I took the horizontal tooth plate and slapped it over the 90Ā° one. |
| 19:48 | < Ced23Ric> | So that Scrambler has two spikes on the front legs. |
| 19:48 | < Ced23Ric> | It's nothing mind blowing. |
| 19:54 | < mraichelson> | solutions are solutions ;) |
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